Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Did you add Electoral Divisions or DEDs to OSM?

[Donal Hunt]

I suspect Brian is trying to ascertain what sources were used for mapping
each ED. We may have to look at the history of the relations / boundaries
to identify the mappers / changesets.

Going forward it would be wise to include the source on the actual boundary
so it can be verified / it's clear where it was sourced from.

Donal


On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 12:13, Patrick Matthews 
wrote:

> Brian,
>
> As far as I know there were only a few changes in DED boundaries between
> 1901 and 1911, most of them consisting of a new DED being split off from an
> existing one (Derry from Roscarbery in Cork, Glenanne in Armagh). The 1911
> census reports are available at
> https://archive.org/search.php?query=1911%20census%20ireland
>
> Paddy.
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:56 AM Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > If you did, can you please remember what date applied and what sources
> were
> > used?
> >
> > It was recently remarked that some of the Dublin ones were only dated
> 1901.
> > As I added quite a few of them using the 1901 census index because I knew
> > no better, I am curious as to what was used across the country.
> >
> > If I had access to those countrywide ED sources I would like compare some
> > with my 1901 boundaries to see how closely, if at all, they match. With
> > hindsight, nationwide conformity would be good. If changes or
> replacements
> > are needed it would be nicer to do it during the remaining two weeks
> rather
> > than after liberation.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Voltage warning

[Donal Hunt]

Thanks for the insight Colm.

The only comment I'll make is that "low voltage" in electrical circles in <
1000V. High voltage is anything above 1000V. Trying to align with that may
be worthwhile (probably too late).

On thing we can agree on is that there is a lot left to map!

Donal

On Mon 2 Nov 2020, 23:14 Colm Moore,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It is difficult to determine the exact voltage on each piece of the
> electricity network without going to inspect each individual device on site
> (potentially difficult, unsafe, potentially illegal), although there are
> some visual clues in the overhead photos (size of substation, power route,
> size & type of pole, etc.). There are hundreds of thousands of transformers
> and twice as much power line as there is public roads.
>
> voltage=low, voltage:primary=low, voltage:secondary=low, etc. are
> placeholder values I created to help identify the voltages used on the
> power network.
>
>   1.  voltage=* can apply to any part of any electrical device.
>   2.  voltage:primary=* primarily applies to transformers and substations
> and is the voltage for the side the power is coming from.
>   3.  voltage:secondary=* primarily applies to transformers and
> substations and is the voltage for the side the power is going to.
>   4.  There are also voltage:tertiary=* and voltage:quaternary=* for
> locations with multiple voltages.
>
> These are the values I have been using:
>
>   1.  High = I presume the voltage to be 110,000 volts or higher but can't
> say which.
>   2.  Medium = I presume the voltage to be 38,000 volts but can't say for
> definite.
>   3.  Low = I presume the voltage to be 20,000 volts or lower but can't
> say which.
>
> The network operators and voltages used across Ireland are below.
>
> Could I ask where the error is showing? The usual debugging sites normally
> associate errors with the most recent contributor - usually me.
>
> Colm
>
> -
>
> EirGrid (Republic of Ireland and Ireland-Britain)
> 40 - high
> 22 - high
> 11 - high
>
> ESB Networks (Republic of Ireland)
> 38000 - medium
> 2 - low
> 1 - low
> 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
> 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
>
> NIE Networks (Northern Ireland)
> 40 - high
> 275000 - high
> 11 - high
> 33000 - medium
> 19000 - low
> 11000 - low
> 6600 - low
> 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
> 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
>
> Mutual Energy (Northern Ireland-Britain)
> 25
>
> Irish Rail
> 1500
>
> Luas
> 750
>
> Other Operators
> 60
> 33000
> 2
> 19000
> 1
> Various
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] voltage warning

[Donal Hunt]

The voltage. Get out your volt meter and verify what the voltage is!


I don't know enough about the transformers but it looks like the ESB use
33KVA and 15KVA transformers to step down from 20KV or 10KV to 230V.
Reference is
https://www.esbnetworks.ie/docs/default-source/publications/assessment-of-the-scope-for-higher-penetrations-of-distributed-generation-on-the-low-volage-distribution-network.pdf

From what I've seen the inbound / outbound voltages aren't specified but
you may be able to deduce them. :)
I have some photos if you need them.

Donal


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> I'm getting an error for voltage=low for a transformer. Had a look at the
> wiki but not sure what should to use instead.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:voltage:secondary
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[OSM-talk-ie] OpenStreetMap Ireland projects

[Donal Hunt]

Hi Everyone,

I have a desire to tidy up the Ireland
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland> wiki page a little in the
coming weeks but need some input from y'all/...

Current projects are:

   - osmirl_buildings project: map as many of the 5.5m buildings in Ireland.

Past projects are:

   - Clonmel Heritage Week 2020 project
   - Townlands.ie
   - others? for sure. let's get them listed...

Other "projects" listed on the page:

   - Places
   - Infrastructure
   - Irish Language (Gaeilge)
   - Gaelic games
   - Background Imagery
   - Imports

I would like to suggest that going forward, each project has a clear goal,
1-2 identified leaders and an easy way for others to contribute / join the
effort. Even pet projects are welcome to be listed as long as they meet the
above criteria. Small projects are better than long-lived projects that
keep evolving. It should be acceptable to have lots of small projects based
around a theme (e.g. ensure all towns have both english and irish names
listed; next project is "ensure all rivers have both irish and english
names", etc). Some of the "other" projects above should probably be moved
to a reference section unless there is high-priority mapping required for
some of the elements.

If you have any input, please add to the discussion here
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Ireland#Projects_-_Nov_2020_cleanup>
(talk
page for the Ireland wiki page).
Thanks!

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.eu - database not updating.

[Donal Hunt]

Seems to be OK now I believe…

  "osm3s": {
"timestamp_osm_base": "2020-10-15T05:15:02Z",
"copyright": "The data included in this document is from
www.openstreetmap.org. The data is made available under ODbL."
  }

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/status seems like a good
place to report consistent issues. Minor issues via GitHub (link on page)
seems appropriate.

Donal

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, 00:50 Colm Moore,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The site is working, but the data seems to be stuck at about 9pm on 14
> October. Does anyone have contact details for the site operators?
>
> Are there any alternative sites? http://overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie/
> hadn't worked in a long time.
>
> Thank you
>
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] some of my inconsistent tagging - cure sought

[Donal Hunt]

I've only found 612 objects...


   1. Open JOSM.
   2. Go to Preferences and ensure "expert mode" is turned on.
   3. Click on "Download data".
   4. Choose "Download from Overpass API"
   5. Enter your query.  e.g. 

   [out:xml][timeout:90];
   {{geocodeArea:Ireland}}->.searchArea;
   (
 nwr["type"="boundary"]["anglican"="Church Of
   Ireland"](area.searchArea);
   );
   (._;>;);
   out meta;

   6. Download your data.
   7. Select all your data (Ctrl+A).
   8. Find the key that you care about (e.g. "anglican") and then right
   click.
   9. Select "Search key/value".
   10. This gave me 612 objects.
   11. I can then change the name and upload the changes.


Would be good to validate that the above is correct...

Donal

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wrote:

> During the lockdown I added a lot of Roman Catholic and Church of Ireland
> Parishes to OSM.
> I carelessly described 686 of them as anglican=Church Of Ireland instead of
> anglican=Church of Ireland.
>
> You can see them in overpass using type=boundary and anglican="Church Of
> Ireland". Is there some way one of you can please easily alter these at one
> fell swoop?
>
> It would be great if you could afterwards then detail the how-to as I have
> some smaller groups to cure and others besides me might also like to learn
> this useful skill, but maybe perhaps others don't need it as much as I do!
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Does OSM have a similar concept as the "Organisation" from Mappilary?

[Donal Hunt]

First I heard about it. I created teams for Cork and Ireland.

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 15:14, moltonel 3x Combo  wrote:

> On 07/07/2020, Donal Hunt  wrote:
> > https://osmcha.org has a teams function which allows you to see changes
> > over time. See https://osmcha.org/teams
> > Pascal Neis also has some tools. e.g. you can visualise by hashtag here:
> >
> https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=osmirl#8/53.475/-8.015
> >
> > I quite like the missing maps leaderboard which can be found here:
> > https://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/osmirl (Kudos tshedy!!)
>
> Has https://dev.mapping.team/teams gained any traction ?
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Does OSM have a similar concept as the "Organisation" from Mappilary?

[Donal Hunt]

https://osmcha.org has a teams function which allows you to see changes
over time. See https://osmcha.org/teams
Pascal Neis also has some tools. e.g. you can visualise by hashtag here:
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=osmirl#8/53.475/-8.015

I quite like the missing maps leaderboard which can be found here:
https://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/osmirl (Kudos tshedy!!)

d.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 15:41, Rory McCann  wrote:

> Hi Bianca.
>
> Welcome to OSM! From an OSM level, no. There are no “organisations”.
> Many people would really want to do it, and some people are working on
> adding that functionality to the OSM website code (“Microcosms”) but
> that hasn't been finished.
>
> It's great that you want to help do a project. Please keep us informed.
> The OSM community has written some guidelines for how to successfully
> run an organisated editing project:
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines
>
> On 07/07/2020 14:37, Bianca Pereira wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >New member here :) Apologies in advance if my questions are too naive.
> >
> > I am organising an initiative to map footpaths around three cities in
> > Ireland using OSM and Mapillary. In Mapilary we can create an
> Organisation
> > as a way to aggregate and visualise all contributions made as part of an
> > initiative. Is there any way to do the same within OSM?
> >
> >I know there is the option to create a task (as in
> > https://tasks.openstreetmap.ie/) or to include a hashtag within a
> commit.
> > But is there any way to retrieve and visualise only the information
> (nodes,
> > ways and areas) submitted as part of mapping the task or using the
> hashtag?
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] brand=*

[Donal Hunt]

Colm,

Thanks for this. I touched on this with regard www.stayingopen.ie and
recognised that more documentation / clarity on tagging could be useful.

In Ireland, we're kind of bad with naming (there's always the official name
and the "local" name(s)!!). Specifically, clarity on what should be entered
for name, brand, operator, owner and branch.

I think the wiki actually does a relatively OK job of setting expectations
but mappers may not always be aware of how a business is operating. Is it a
franchise or just a business with multiple locations?

Comments and thoughts welcome!

Donal

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:02 PM Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Over the last month I have been tidying up brand=* and associated name=*
> and operator=* tags, with 2,000-3,000 changes. It should make finding all
> (mapped) branches of a chain easier to find - no more Applegreen,
> AppleGreen, Apple Green, etc. brand:wikidata and brand:wikipedia have also
> be populated for lots of the entries.
>
> However, I can't personally check every shop and petrol station in the
> country, so I would be grateful if people could keep an eye out on the
> following brands in particular?
>
>   1.  Topaz - are these now all Circle K / Circle K Express?
>   2.  Excol / ExCol - what have these rebranded to?
>   3.  02 - are these now all some version of 3 / Three?
>   4.  First Trust / First Trust Bank - are these now all AIB?
>   5.  ACC Bank - no longer exists as a bank.
>   6.  Irish Nationwide - no longer exists
>   7.  National Irish Bank - should be Danske Bank.
>   8.  Halfords - is this the same as Halfords Autocentre? Do they all do
> car parts and bikes?
>   9.  There will also be other petrol stations and shops that don't have
> any name, brand or operator tagged.
>   10. St. Vincent de Paul - this operates under different names for
> different functions. If anyone understand the details, could they contact
> me?
>
> In the meantime, if anyone see any egregious errors, please let me know. :)
>
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] name=Éire / Ireland

[Donal Hunt]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcountry seems to have good
guidance.

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020, 14:56 Colm Moore,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/62273
>
> Someone has set the name of the (Republic of) Ireland to "Éire / Ireland".
> Whatever about Irish constitutional nuances, OSM usually uses one field=one
> piece of data. I'm inclined to change it to name=Ireland, given that
> Ireland is the name that most people use.
>
> Separately, there is the matter of lots of the international translations
> are of "Republic of Ireland" instead of "Ireland". Does anyone have
> thoughts on how to deal with potential grammatical issues in rationalising
> these?
>
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

[Donal Hunt]

Took a look and looks sane to me. I was trying this last night but failing!


On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, 12:30 John Kennedy,  wrote:

> Hi Brian.
> Does this work?
>
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN
>
> I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
> Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
> Then take the difference.
>
> But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.
>
> Rgds/
>  - John
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Donal,
> > Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> > Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
> > included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
> >
> > If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
> > boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of
> Cork
> > (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
> > further progress.
> >
> > For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
> > County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses of
> > Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
> >
> > Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am
> will
> > be most welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> > >
> > > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> > >
> > > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> > up/down
> > > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part
> > and
> > > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> > >
> > > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas
> > that
> > > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> > > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> > >
> > > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our
> misery!!
> > =)
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> br...@hollinshead.net
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork
> and
> > > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to
> OSM.
> > > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into
> > JOSM.
> > > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
> > > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

[Donal Hunt]

https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/47726/how-to-get-list-of-areas-in-an-area
seems
to suggest an approach to doing this but doesn't provide a query that would
help us here.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:16 AM Donal Hunt 
wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
>
> Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
>
> This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse up/down
> relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part and
> there are few examples that explain it well enough...
>
> Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas
> that are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> contained within a diocesan area right now.
>
> Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our misery!! =)
>
> Donal
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
>> Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork and
>> Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to OSM.
>> Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into JOSM.
>> Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
>> (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
>> (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
>> boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Next Galway OpenStreetMap event - Date changed to Mar 28th - Now cancelled

[Donal Hunt]

Thanks for the update Dave.

Donal

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 15:35, Dave Corley  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> As the University will be closed due to Covid-19 containment, the planned
> OSM meetup on Mar 28th is cancelled.
>
> No further Galway events are planned at this time. Once things settle down
> we'll schedule something and let you know.
>
> Thank you for your understanding,
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 12:57 AM Dave Corley  wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Just to make you aware the date for the next OSM workshop in Galway has
> > been pushed back by 2 weeks and changed to Sat Mar 28th.
> >
> > Location is still the Insight Center and the hours are 11am to 3pm.
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing you all there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:45 PM Dave Corley 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Just to let you know that the next OpenStreetMap event in Galway is
> >> happening on Sat 14th Mar from 11am-3pm in the Insight Centre in Dangan.
> >>
> >> The previous event you attended was mainly about introducing you and
> >> others to OpenStreetMap and I also touched on some of the additional
> things
> >> you can utilise in the OSM ecosystem.
> >>
> >> This time around, the focus will be more on getting you actively mapping
> >> as its the starting point for all other activities e.g. data extraction,
> >> map creation etc.
> >>
> >> I'll also open up the floor to others to get ideas of what people want
> to
> >> see. This can be anything from "how do I map X, Y or Z" to "how do I
> create
> >> a map showing all the X, Y & Z in a specific area". With that in mind,
> >> please come along with ideas, questions and comments of your own on the
> >> day.
> >>
> >> I hope to see you there again and feel free to bring along a friend or
> >> two, the event is open to all. One thing I ask, just to have an idea of
> >> numbers, is to register at the link below if you are attending.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/galway-openstreetmap-event-tickets-95116677543
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dave
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Broken West Cork Islands

[Donal Hunt]

It's worth noting that the process of rendering island and coastline is a
little different to other tiles.

https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/276/why-do-the-changes-i-have-made-to-coastline-not-appear-on-the-map

With regard the current issue,
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline_error_checker may help.

On Sat, 29 Feb 2020, 20:59 Colm Moore,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/51.4733/-9.4500
>
> There is a group of broken islands in West Cork - Sherkin Island, Spanish
> Island, Ringarogy Island, Inishbeg, Cléire and some islets.
>
> I think the problem is related to the coastline. Could someone have a look?
>
> Thank you
>
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>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses

[Donal Hunt]

Update on the N20/M20 upgrades published today:
https://corklimerick.ie/scheme-update/

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020, 13:48 Donal Hunt,  wrote:

> Latest update on the Colloney-Castlebaldwin (N4) is available here
> <https://www.n4realignment.ie/media/1628/newsletter-q3q4-2019-final.pdf> (got
> uploaded after I enquired about it).
>
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 21:10, Donal Hunt  wrote:
>
>> Update on the M7:
>> https://www.kildarenow.com/news/home/513283/at-last-upgraded-m7-to-return-to-120km-per-hour-after-over-two-years.html
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 11:31 Donal Hunt,  wrote:
>>
>>> For the M7 - last update seems to indicate that it will stay at 80km/h
>>> until at least Feb 2. https://outline.com/ng8sCC
>>> Would probably need to email Kildare Co. Co. for an update. There is
>>> work ongoing this week which is probably related.
>>>
>>> Donal
>>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:43, Nick Burrett  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:37, Donal Hunt  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Here's some updates...
>>>> >
>>>> > *Naas Bypass (M7)*: All 3 lanes opened since 02 Aug 2019 allegedly
>>>> (see
>>>> > https://outline.com/kf6j5P)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> All three lanes have been open a while, but the last time I drove it
>>>> (early
>>>> Jan 2020), the speed limit was still 60 or 80.  Some remaining work was
>>>> still to be done, like fixing the signposts and opening one of the
>>>> exits.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM at LoveDataWeek 2020 - Maynooth University

[Donal Hunt]

I'm the sure the mobility forum and cycling campaign would be happy for a
mention about the Cork cycling map that was launched last year. The base
map used OpenStreetMap data before the additional landmarks and highlighted
routes were added.

https://transportandmobilityforum.com/cork-cycle-map/

Donal

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 14:51, Peter Mooney  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm giving a general overview talk about OpenStreetMap in Maynooth
> University next week, as part of Love Data Week 2020. Details are here [1].
>
> I only have an hour so I want to show attendees what kinds of applications
> OpenStreetMap is being used for in Ireland and beyond. This will include
> quick examples of downloading data, using Turbo Overpass online, and a very
> basic map using Leaflet. I'll be showing the work of OSM IE (example the
> recent Kilkenny work), Townlands, Hieki's visualisations, etc.
>
> If you have any other really interesting examples of OSM use which would be
> good for a general audience, please let me know and I'd be delighted to
> include it.
>
> I will make my slides openly available in ODP format afterwards, if they
> are useful for someone else.
>
> With every best wish,
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

[Donal Hunt]



On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 11:01, Andy Townsend  wrote:

> On 03/02/2020 07:58, Dave Corley wrote:
> > That's great Andy, thanks for sorting it out
> >
> > On Mon 3 Feb 2020, 00:12 Andy Townsend,  wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/01/2020 14:33, Donal Hunt wrote:
> >>> Sounds goods to me and will reduce duplication.
> >>>
> >
> and that's now live at https://openstreetmap.community/ .
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses (Donal Hunt)

[Donal Hunt]

Thanks Tony!

Donal

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:03, Tony Furnell  wrote:

> Sorry for opening up an old thread, I've been away.
>
> Regarding the A5 dualling (and other NI developments such as the A6) I keep
> my eye on Wesley Johnston's NI Roads website
> http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/roads/
>
> Essentially not much change as yet on A5, but I have been keeping the A6
> mapping up to date when travelling up that way.
>
> --
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>
>
>
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:48:53 +
> > From: Donal Hunt 
> > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland 
> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses
> > Message-ID:
> >  > 1fhtoe41fux7fk6-hzver2asnbuo...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Latest update on the Colloney-Castlebaldwin (N4) is available here
> > <https://www.n4realignment.ie/media/1628/newsletter-q3q4-2019-final.pdf>
> > (got
> > uploaded after I enquired about it).
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 21:10, Donal Hunt  wrote:
> >
> > > Update on the M7:
> > >
> >
> https://www.kildarenow.com/news/home/513283/at-last-upgraded-m7-to-return-to-120km-per-hour-after-over-two-years.html
> > >
> > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 11:31 Donal Hunt,  wrote:
> > >
> > >> For the M7 - last update seems to indicate that it will stay at 80km/h
> > >> until at least Feb 2. https://outline.com/ng8sCC
> > >> Would probably need to email Kildare Co. Co. for an update. There is
> > work
> > >> ongoing this week which is probably related.
> > >>
> > >> Donal
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:43, Nick Burrett  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:37, Donal Hunt 
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Here's some updates...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > *Naas Bypass (M7)*: All 3 lanes opened since 02 Aug 2019 allegedly
> > (see
> > >>> > https://outline.com/kf6j5P)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> All three lanes have been open a while, but the last time I drove it
> > >>> (early
> > >>> Jan 2020), the speed limit was still 60 or 80.  Some remaining work
> was
> > >>> still to be done, like fixing the signposts and opening one of the
> > exits.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses

[Donal Hunt]

Latest update on the Colloney-Castlebaldwin (N4) is available here
<https://www.n4realignment.ie/media/1628/newsletter-q3q4-2019-final.pdf> (got
uploaded after I enquired about it).

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 21:10, Donal Hunt  wrote:

> Update on the M7:
> https://www.kildarenow.com/news/home/513283/at-last-upgraded-m7-to-return-to-120km-per-hour-after-over-two-years.html
>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 11:31 Donal Hunt,  wrote:
>
>> For the M7 - last update seems to indicate that it will stay at 80km/h
>> until at least Feb 2. https://outline.com/ng8sCC
>> Would probably need to email Kildare Co. Co. for an update. There is work
>> ongoing this week which is probably related.
>>
>> Donal
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:43, Nick Burrett  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:37, Donal Hunt  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Here's some updates...
>>> >
>>> > *Naas Bypass (M7)*: All 3 lanes opened since 02 Aug 2019 allegedly (see
>>> > https://outline.com/kf6j5P)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> All three lanes have been open a while, but the last time I drove it
>>> (early
>>> Jan 2020), the speed limit was still 60 or 80.  Some remaining work was
>>> still to be done, like fixing the signposts and opening one of the exits.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses

[Donal Hunt]

Update on the M7:
https://www.kildarenow.com/news/home/513283/at-last-upgraded-m7-to-return-to-120km-per-hour-after-over-two-years.html

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 11:31 Donal Hunt,  wrote:

> For the M7 - last update seems to indicate that it will stay at 80km/h
> until at least Feb 2. https://outline.com/ng8sCC
> Would probably need to email Kildare Co. Co. for an update. There is work
> ongoing this week which is probably related.
>
> Donal
>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:43, Nick Burrett  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:37, Donal Hunt  wrote:
>>
>> > Here's some updates...
>> >
>> > *Naas Bypass (M7)*: All 3 lanes opened since 02 Aug 2019 allegedly (see
>> > https://outline.com/kf6j5P)
>> >
>> >
>> All three lanes have been open a while, but the last time I drove it
>> (early
>> Jan 2020), the speed limit was still 60 or 80.  Some remaining work was
>> still to be done, like fixing the signposts and opening one of the exits.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

[Donal Hunt]

Sounds goods to me and will reduce duplication.

Does anyone envisage there being any resources that would be specific to
the Republic of Ireland only?
If so, it might be worth creating both and leading a comment at the top of
the relevant files so future contributors add/change/remove resources in
the correct place.

Donal

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 14:29, Andy Townsend  wrote:

> On 30/01/2020 14:18, Donal Hunt wrote:
> > I would suggest creating a config specifically for Northern Ireland that
> > includes both UK and (island of) Ireland resources.
>
> In most cases, anything less than a country requires a geojson
> definition I think, so it probably wouldn't actually save any work.  I
> did have a go with lists against a resource but didn't have a lot of
> success, so the easiest way is probably to define an "island of Ireland"
> geojson and change some (or all) Irish resources to use that.
>
> Overlaps aren't a problem - there are plenty already at
> https://openstreetmap.community/ - I suspect that the result would just
> be that NI showed up a bit darker because it was in two overlapping
> areas, and if you clicked on it at https://openstreetmap.community/
> you'd just get a combination of both Irish and UK resources.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

[Donal Hunt]

The agreement in place is that OpenStreetMap contributors in Northern
Ireland can be a member of OSM IE, OSM UK or both or none.
I would suggest creating a config specifically for Northern Ireland that
includes both UK and (island of) Ireland resources.

Not sure if it's easy to define the resources once and include them were
relevant or if each config would need to be updated if there are future
changes.
Regards

Donal

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 14:09, Andy Townsend  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> While fixing something else, I noticed (as you do) that a number of
> Irish resources in the OSM Community Index seem to be defined using the
> country code "ie" rather than an explicit area.  If you go to
> https://openstreetmap.community/ and zoom in you can see the effect - it
> thinks that (for example) talk-gb covers GB and Northern Ireland, and
> talk-ie covers the only Republic.  I've always assumed that this list is
> the one that covers the island of Ireland, and the same is true for
> other Irish resources too.
>
> I think that the solution is to do something similar to what I did at
> https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index/pull/315 - define a
> geojson file for the area and change the Irish resources that should
> cover the whole island to use it (see
> https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index/pull/315/files for a
> similar example).
>
> I'm happy to submit the change, or to help someone else submit the
> change, but obviously didn't want to do it before contacting someone
> here first.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses

[Donal Hunt]

Here's some updates...

*Colloney-Castlebaldwin (N4)*: latest pictures are available at
https://www.n4realignment.ie/gallery-current-progress (no formal update
since Q2 2019!!). Classification is listed here
.
*Castlebar-Westport (N5)*: Only got funded end of last year so doesn't seem
to be fully active yet. TII status is here
.
*Dungiven-Derry (A6)*: Latest update available at
https://a6d2d.com/progress-update-december-2019/
*Naas Bypass (M7)*: All 3 lanes opened since 02 Aug 2019 allegedly (see
https://outline.com/kf6j5P)

Full listed of TII road projects is here:
https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/projects-and-improvements/
Full list of TII public transport projects is here:
https://www.tii.ie/public-transport/projects-and-improvements/

Where updates are lacking, I've found that emailing the email address on
the relevant website and copying i...@tii.ie ensures accountability is
being highlighted. By emailing TII about the lack of updates posted
publicly also drives demand for them to ensure updates are provided in a
transparent manner (which then gets reflected in future terms / contracts).

Regards

Donal

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 03:46, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> New Ross Bypass - due to open this week. I had a look over the mapping the
> other day. It just needs conversion from highway=construction to highway=*
> Does anyone know the new regional road reference numbers?
>
> Naas Bypass - are the three lanes open on both sides yet?
>
> Does anyone know the status?
> * A5 Dualling
> * Castlebar-Westport
> * Colloney-Castlebaldwin
> * Donabate Bypass
> * Dungiven-Derry
> * Mullingar-Devlin
> * Ratoath Outer Relief Road
> * Sallins Bypass
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Summits imported from mountainviews.ie

[Donal Hunt]

I'm a member of mountainviews.ie so familiar with their maps and
information. I do know they have members of the community that have access
to / borrowed high-quality surveying equipment which has resulted in the
comprehensive dataset they have.

I would not be surprised if there have been updates in the past 10 years
regarding elevation, location, etc.

Donal

On Sun, 1 Dec 2019, 13:38 moltonel 3x Combo,  wrote:

> On 29/11/2019, Donal Hunt  wrote:
> > The latest major revision of WGS 84 is also referred to as "Earth
> > Gravitational Model 1996" (EGM96), first published in 1996, with
> revisions
> > as recent as 2004. This model has the same reference ellipsoid as WGS 84,
> > but has a higher-fidelity geoid (roughly 100 km resolution versus 200 km
> > for the original WGS 84).
>
> Hopefully the 2004 revision is close enough to the 1996 one, as it
> seems that osm is defaulting to 1996.
>
> > The tl;dr is that you need to reference which model your peak height is
> > measured against. EGM96 is preferred (I'm assuming) because it has higher
> > definition and more refined model.
>
> AIUI from the wiki and taginfo, in an OSM context, the naked "ele" tag
> refers to EGM96, and there are subtags like "ele:wgs84" or even
> "ele:local" for "whatever's printed on the local signpost".
>
> I've figured out the overpass query I had in mind:
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/OCb but it finds basically every peak we
> have with an elevation.
>
> See also
> https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/15397/elevation-of-irish-mountains-why-the-discrepancy-osmwikipedia
> which complains the the issue ireland-wide, and notes that the osm
> data in other countries is fine.
>
> All the mountainviews imports basically have
> ele:local/ele_local/ele:tm75 (3 keys with first value) and
> ele/ele:wgs84 (two tags with second value). I couldn't find a
> definition of the "tm75" coordinate system that we got from the
> mountainview export, I'm guessing this is an irish-specific
> coordinates system, and I have doubts that it is equivalent to the
> egm96 that we would like.
>
> At this point, I have a few questions:
> * Are the "tm75" values usable for the naked "ele" tag ?
> * If not, can we convert tm75 to egm96 ?
> * As a bonus, I think we should remove "ele_local" where we already
> have "ele:local"
> * Is it ok to edit 790 as a single changeset (once we agreed with the
> changes) or do we want to check each individually ?
>
> * Second bonus (probably for a second stage): is there's any point in
> keeping the iemv:* tags ? Might have been a requirement for the import
> ? It was done in 2009, maybe it's time to see if they have updated
> data.
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Summits imported from mountainviews.ie

[Donal Hunt]

And for those (like me) who are not up to speed on how peaks are measured…


The World Geodetic System (WGS) is a standard for use in cartography
, geodesy
, and satellite navigation
 including GPS
.

WGS84 (elipsoid) and EGM96 (geoid) are two different models, with different
applications.

The latest major revision of WGS 84 is also referred to as "Earth
Gravitational Model 1996" (EGM96), first published in 1996, with revisions
as recent as 2004. This model has the same reference ellipsoid as WGS 84,
but has a higher-fidelity geoid (roughly 100 km resolution versus 200 km
for the original WGS 84).


When you see a height in a map, it is usually a height over the geoid
(orthometric height), but when you get one from a GPS device, it is usually
a height over the elipsoid. There are online tools to transform between
them as needed, using what it is called geoid undulation. E.g.
geoid-height-calculator


The tl;dr is that you need to reference which model your peak height is
measured against. EGM96 is preferred (I'm assuming) because it has higher
definition and more refined model.


Donal

On Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 19:00 moltonel 3x Combo,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just fixed Lugnaquilla's "ele" tag to use the EGM96 system, as
> opposed to the WGS84 one:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77737107
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele?uselang=en
>
> That one was reported by an OSM note, but I wouldn't be surprised if
> most of the natural=peak have the same issue. I think it's possible to
> find those using an overpass query that would return all natural=peak
> where ele == ele::egs84, but I couldn't figure that query out straight
> away and there may be a lot of stuff to carefully fix, so I'm turning
> to the mailing list.
>
> Might get a solution tomorrow during the Kilkenny meetup, but I
> figured I might as well ask here so I don't forget about it.
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Map server

[Donal Hunt]

Yes - there was an issue with the VM that maps.openstreetmap.ie is hosted
on and work to restore the various functionality on the website is still
ongoing.

I don't have an ETA but help in restoring the tileservers, etc is
appreciated.
Thanks!

Donal

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 14:38, brendan kehoe 
wrote:

> Hello
>
> https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/
> says
> *tilserver is undergoing maintenance. apoligies for the incovenience.*
>
> It has said that for few days now. Is it true? Is somebody doing
> maintenance? I'm willing to help if it's needed.
>
> Thanks very much
>
> Brendan
>
>
>
>
> *Donal Hunt wrote*
> *Wed Sep 18 00:21:05 UTC 2019*
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I started investigating this evening and it looks like something has been
> reset on the server around Sept 4. Fortunately it looks like the most
> important information (IE specific configs, themes, etc) have not been lost
> due to how we structured the data in the VM but it does expose the reliance
> on a single server, the lack of monitoring, no central store for the
> configs, designs, etc and backups.
>
> I've reached out to a contact in TSSG to see if they have any additional
> insight about may have caused the issue.
> In the meantime, we'll look to restore the maps.openstreetmap.ie website
> in
> the coming days (will be at least 48 hours and may be as late as Sunday due
> to existing commitments).
>
> If any of the folk who have login access on dev4 want to make start on
> restoring the apache configs, please let me know.
> Regards
>
> Donal
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 13:52, Patrick Matthews  gmail.com <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie>>
> wrote:
>
> >* Is the map server down at the moment? It's just giving a default Apache
> *>* welcome page when you visit the URL.
> *>>* Paddy.*
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Cork City Boundary 2019 ...Opendata Release

[Donal Hunt]

I had been working on this separately and had received approval (and a
waiver since it was originally CC-BY 4.0) from Cork County Council (who are
the lead organisation for the transition).

However we had hit a wall as it was unclear if they had the authority to
waive the license conditions. Looks like we're in the clear now. Would be
interesting to see if both datasets are the same (they should be).

Donal

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019, 23:11 Cormac O Murchú,  wrote:

> This just became available in the following open data release
>
>
>
> https://data.gov.ie/dataset/d78cda45-88b4-456b-bd7b-c5d9ac429a78
>
>
>
> So I have uploaded it as
>
>
>
> Changeset 69538095
>
> Way ID 685716618
>
>
>
> As far as I can see this is fully open data, it was provided in response to
> this Open Data request here.
>
>
>
> https://data.gov.ie/dataset/suggest/0c6ac24d-579b-4748-921f-5c0d2a1b5076
>
>
>
> Note the release contains all County and Borough Boundaries in the state
> and
> comprises 2 million nodes, including islands etc.
>
>
>
> I do not propose to modify this in any way until others are happy with it,
> it has not been connected to any other boundaries at this time and there is
> a deal of snipping and snupping required there that can wait a bit. Right
> now it is the simplest of  reversions.
>
>
>
> Comments most welcome from all and mosr particularly on the provenance. I
> feel it is OK given the nature of the original OD request linked ante.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Redundant admin boundaries in Ireland

[Donal Hunt]

The proposal makes sense (Ireland has reviewed and adjusted a number of
boundaries in the past 12 months).

Should the approach be codified in the wiki so there are clear expectations
on how to represent these changes over time? Adjustments are rare but will
probably happen every 10-20 years going forward as more people migrate from
rural areas to cities / towns.

Donal

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019, 11:16 ,  wrote:

> Sorry, list was unreadable:||
>
> | IRL | 5857133 | Athy Municipal District | 8 | 8* | {2,6,8,8} IRL |
> 8449476 | Athy Municipal District (2019) | 8 | 8* | {2,6,8,8} IRL |
> 5857135 | Celbridge-Leixlip Municipal District | 8 | 8* | {2,6,8,8} IRL
> | 8448661 | Celbridge-Leixlip Municipal District (2019) | 8 | 8* |
> {2,6,8,8} IRL | 8448101 | Clane-Maynooth Municipal District (2019) | 8 |
> 8* | {2,6,8,8} IRL | 5857136 | Kildare-Newbridge Municipal District | 8
> | 8* | {2,6,8,8} IRL | 8449477 | Kildare-Newbridge Municipal District
> (2019) | 8 | 8* | {2,6,8,8} IRL | 5857137 | Maynooth Municipal District
> | 8 | 8* | {2,6,8,8} IRL | 5857138 | Naas Municipal District | 8 | 8* |
> {2,6,8,8} IRL | 8449475 | Naas Municipal District (2019) | 8 | | 8* |
> {2,4,8,8} Walter|
>
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>
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> <
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> >
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> Fools (QA for zipcodes in Germany) 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Changes happening to *.openstreetmap.ie resources over the coming nights

[Donal Hunt]

The layers that were not rendering on maps.openstreetmap.ie have been
restored.

Still a bunch of work to be done to have everything processing properly.
Regards

Donal

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 20:35, Donal Hunt  wrote:

> https://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie has now been migrated (and is running
> the latest version of the software).
>
> The new server resources are still c/o John Ronan in TSSG (WIT). I guess
> we'll see if performance is any better - I am certainly interested in
> measuring the various services with a view of understanding how growth
> impacts resources needs.
> Regards
>
> Donal
>
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 20:59, Dave Corley  wrote:
>
>> Fair play Donal et al for doing this.
>>
>> Whats the story with the new home? Will the response times be better?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:32 AM Donal Hunt  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi everyone!
>> >
>> > We're in the process of moving services operating as part of *.
>> > openstreetmap.ie to a new server (so we can retire the old one).
>> >
>> >  Here is a non-exhaustive list of what we're aware of:
>> >
>> >
>> >- Maps (maps.openstreetmap.ie)
>> >- Main map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/)
>> >   - Irish Language map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/
>> >   <
>> > https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/?zoom=7=53.5=-6=00BFFF
>> >
>> >   )
>> >   - Boundary map of Ireland (
>> >   http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html
>> >   <
>> >
>> http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html?zoom=7=53.5=-6=B00FFF
>> > >
>> >   )
>> >   - Historical Map Server - GSGS 3906 (
>> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BTF)
>> >   - Historical Map Server - Bartholomew Quarter Inch to the mile (1:
>> >   253440) 1940 (
>> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=00B00F)
>> >   - Historical Map Server - British War Office One Inch to the mile
>> >   (1:63,360) 1941-43 - (GSGS 4136) (
>> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?0B000F)
>> >   - Historical Map Server - L.J. Richards & Company Civil Parish and
>> >   Barony Map of ireland (
>> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BFFTTFF)
>> >- Nominatim (nominatim.openstreetmap.ie)
>> >- Overpass
>> >- Overpass Turbo (overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie)
>> >- Planet (planet.openstreetmap.ie)
>> >- Taginfo (taginfo.openstreetmap.ie)
>> >- Tilservers (tile.openstreetmap.ie, *.tile.openstreetmap.ie)
>> >- IRCbot
>> >
>> >
>> > planet.openstreetmap.ie was migrated in the past few hours (but may
>> take
>> > another few hours for DNS caches to refresh).
>> >
>> > If you notice anything odd, please feel free to followup to this email,
>> > shout on #osm-ie (OFTC IRC network) or email me direct. The main focus
>> will
>> > be on migration and any pre-existing issues will be addressed once the
>> > migration is complete.
>> >
>> > Kind regards
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSMIE tiles not working

[Donal Hunt]

Finally found some more time to restore all of the overlay layers that were
broken...

Should all be fully operational now.
Regards

Donal

On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 at 18:15, Donal Hunt  wrote:

> Hi Vincent!
>
> This is a known issues as we migrate services over to a new VM (taking
> longer than expected due to volunteer availability). The good news is that
> I'm actively working on restoring those layers over the holiday period (the
> /ed/ layer is already back).
> You can reach me via this address or on #osm-ie (OFTC IRC network) if
> needed.
>
> All the best!
>
> Donal
>
> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 22:17, Vincent Privat <
> vinc...@josm.openstreetmap.de> wrote:
>
>>  Hello,
>> We recently started to check validity of imagery entries listed on JOSM
>> wiki:
>> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Ireland
>>
>> It appears at least three OSMIE overlay layers are not working:
>> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/barony/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
>> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/civilparish/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
>> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/ed/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
>>
>> This can be observed on https://maps.openstreetmap.ie as well.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] New Local Electoral Areas 2018

[Donal Hunt]

I have a request pending with the Cork boundary transition team (since I
haven't found a licence-free version of the data yet and they haven't
spray-painted the new borders "on the ground"). 

They haven't responded so far (have emailed them twice) so if anyone has
any contacts in the city / county councils, please give them a poke.

Thanks!

Donal

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 13:19, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It is useful to have the current electoral areas. Putting the date on them
> indicates (accuracy aside) they are the current ones.
>
> Having past ones listed (and dated) means that one can avoid the situation
> of someone finding an old source and editing the current boundaries to fit
> historical boundaries.
>
> It is also nice to have and to be able to understand how boundaries have
> evolved.
>
> As an aside, when roads get realigned, statutory boundaries do **not**
> change, so users should be careful in such circumstances.
>
> Colm
>
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:24:42 +
> From: Dave Corley 
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] New Local Electoral Areas 2018
>
> Hi,
>
> Can I ask a stupid question or two
>
> Why do we need to reflect previous ed boundaries?
>
> Is OSM the right place to store that info?
>
> Could someone reuse that data later in the same manner they use the current
> boundary data?
>
> Is it just a "nice to have" bit of info?
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Complicated addresses

[Donal Hunt]

add:unit seems appropriate in this case:

See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr_keys_(2011-04)

In general, you want enough data to enable routing but there are other use
cases too. e.g. You could imply employees per sq. m. if you had other data
sources regarding employment numbers, etc. This is good for bench-marking
and data analysis.

For the roads you should be able to tag them with access:destination too
which implies access is allowed to reach a destination but not other
reasons.

Regards

Donal



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 03:25, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd welcome some thoughts on this.
>
> I went on a survey to Greenogue, Rathcoole, Co. Dublin during last week.
> 1,400 photos taken. :)
>
> There are two large industrial estates at Greenogue. They seem to follow a
> common design and share some services. There is some unconnected industrial
> and residential properties outside the estates.
>
> The industrial estates are so big that they are divided into zones, shown
> on maps and street signs:
> * Greenogue Business Park (comprising Blue Zone, Green Zone, Orange Zone,
> Red Zone)
> * Aerodrome Business Park (Yellow Zone).
>
> I've set the industrial estates using landuse=industrial and the zones
> with place=locality. All the roads seem to be privately owned and are not
> controlled by the council. I've set the named roads (generally have
> footpaths, verges, no parking) as highway=unclassified and other roads as
> highway=service (generally have no footpaths, no verges, but have parking).
> The highway=unclassified roads have gates that can close them off to
> traffic - I don't know how often this happens, it could be nightly, weekly
> or occasional. I think it best to have these roads as highway=unclassified
> as they are publicly usable for most of the time people want to use them
> and they get mapped in a way that makes the area legible.
>
> Some of the businesses have 'own gate' sites, while other sites are
> ungated and have many occupiers in 'own door' units. Each of these
> buildings may be subdivided into 2-30 semi-detached / terraced industrial
> units. Some sites have entrances on more than one road (the semi-unique
> block numbers mean this is OK). Some of the highway=service roads are
> private (on 'own gate' sites), while others are open to the public on a
> permissive basis. I generally haven't assigned a name to highway=service
> roads, although all the buildings on these roads take the street name of
> the nearest highway=unclassified.
>
> The management company has a map here:
> http://www.greenoguebusinesspark.com/getting-around-greenogue/ but it
> isn't quite up to date. They have similar maps dotted around the roads. As
> you can see, every site / building has a number, letter or both. The 'own
> door' units also have a unit number. I'm not inclined to plagiarize the
> management company map so I can map the individual units (to much bother
> :)).
>
> In certain cases, e.g. Block 503, there are about 76 units split across 4
> buildings, in the one 'block'.
>
> I've mapped nearly 200 businesses, mostly as nodes and have another ~50 to
> go, although I didn't get to survey the northern part of the site. I've
> mapped them as nodes so that I can deal with issues where there are many
> users in one building / site and deal more easily with any errors I've made.
>
> In the address hierarchy, there are:
> * The two industrial estates.  < Ignore
> * The zones. < Ignore
> * The named roads.  < OK
> * The block numbers, which may be a multi-user site or a single-user
> building.  < Do I use the building=* addr:housenumber=* field for this?
> * The unit numbers.  < Do I use the building=* name=* field or the
> building=* addr:housename=* field for this?
> * The business names. < It's OK, they are on separate nodes.
> * Some businesses then name their buildings.  < Aggg
>
> Any thoughts on how I should proceed with the names and addresses of (a)
> buildings and (b) businesses? Do I change building "A" to "Block A" when
> filling the or the name=* field or the addr:housenumber=* field?
>
> Thank you
>
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Raths / ringforts

[Donal Hunt]

Any update on how folk are progressing with this? Looks like there is lots
of activity in some areas...
See this screenshot  or the
overpass turbo output here .

Donal


On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 14:17, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Rory and I have done quite a bit of tidying up.
>
>
> These are the remaining tags that need attention:
>
> earthworks=rath< 1248 instances - Clare
> and Kerry only
> fortification_type=hill_fort   < confused use - multiple different
> fort types
> historic=fort  < confused use - multiple different
> fort types
> fortification=ring_ditch  < minor
> fortification_type=hillfort  < minor
> historic=hillfort  < minor
> historic=ring fort  < minor
> military=fort  < minor
> note=Ancient fort  < minor
> note=Fort  < minor
> note=Ring Fort?  < minor
> ruins=fort  < minor
> site_type=earthwork  < minor
> site_type=enclosure  < minor
>
>
> There are some of these that are nodes instead of ways. I've asked a
> historian if they have a ringfort expert we could talk to.
>
>
> Rory, I'll start with the Dingle peninsula and work east.
>
>
> Colm
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSMIE tiles not working

[Donal Hunt]

Hi Vincent!

This is a known issues as we migrate services over to a new VM (taking
longer than expected due to volunteer availability). The good news is that
I'm actively working on restoring those layers over the holiday period (the
/ed/ layer is already back).
You can reach me via this address or on #osm-ie (OFTC IRC network) if
needed.

All the best!

Donal

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 22:17, Vincent Privat 
wrote:

>  Hello,
> We recently started to check validity of imagery entries listed on JOSM
> wiki:
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Ireland
>
> It appears at least three OSMIE overlay layers are not working:
> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/barony/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/civilparish/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/ed/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
>
> This can be observed on https://maps.openstreetmap.ie as well.
> Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Apartment

[Donal Hunt]

The documentation on entrance=home seems to cover this scenario (though it
could be clearer).

See the following:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:entrance#Entrances_and_addresses
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:entrance

My interpretation of the documentation is that what you have done is what
is currently agreed as the best approach by the community...

d.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 18:37, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:

> I was mapping an apartment style building, Ballynoe Court, but each one had
> there own doors. Does this look like the best way to achieve it.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.18983/-6.12670
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Collinstown Townland has been re mapped as Dublin Airport!

[Donal Hunt]

I'm still working on fixing all the layers on www.openstreetmap.ie.
Should have more of them fixed up later today.

I also need to fix up the postgis database updates (it's not currently
updating).

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018, 12:59 Brian Hollinshead  At first look, theses are good, I admire your patience to do this. As both
> maps.openstreetmap.ie and http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/os_opendata are
> displaying a lot of pink (during the changeover?) I will leave a more
> detailed check for the moment. After the townlands and Civil parishes I
> will use the GRO records in National library which for the registration
> districts list the EDs then Civil Parishes in each ED  and then townlands
> in each parish.
>
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 15:31, Patrick Matthews 
> wrote:
>
> > I have - as far as I can tell - finished repairing the townland, civil
> > parish, barony, PLU and registration district boundaries around Dublin
> > Airport. Can Brian check that they're all OK?
> >
> > Paddy Matthews.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 6:57 PM Patrick Matthews <
> mullinalag...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure if anyone would be able to identify changesets and whether
> > > they could be rolled back to their pre-"redrawing" stage.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:50 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> br...@hollinshead.net
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Paddy,
> > >> I found Belgard Quarry this morning. At least in that case they left
> the
> > >> townland boundaries intact so it could be easier to fix, Is that in
> your
> > >> field of expertise or I am hoping for someone else to kindly offer?
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 15:19, Patrick Matthews <
> mullinalag...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Looking around last night, something similar seems to have been done
> > at
> > >> the
> > >> > Belgard quarry on the south side of Dublin and looking at the
> relevant
> > >> > relation history it seems to be the same few names who are involved
> in
> > >> > freelance boundary redrawing in both locations. I'm sure there may
> be
> > >> other
> > >> > places where this has gone on but that was the one that I noticed.
> > >> >
> > >> > Paddy Matthews.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 12:29 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> > >> br...@hollinshead.net>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > While adding the Malahide Union of parishes to the map which uses
> a
> > >> > > combination of the old civil parish boundaries I find that
> > Collinstown
> > >> > > townland (relation/5436241) has been seriously redrawn if compared
> > to
> > >> the
> > >> > > GSGS 3906 map and maps.openstreetmap.ie. Rorys townlands.ie shows
> > the
> > >> > post
> > >> > > changes state.
> > >> > > It looks as thought someone thought Collinstown Airport was the
> new
> > >> > > townland.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The border between townland of Forrest Little(relation 5440762)
> and
> > >> > > Clonshaugh, Corballis and Huntstown has been quite altered between
> > >> > > 53.435847/-6.236136 and 53.4316541/-6.2644.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I believe this also alters some Barony and Superintendent
> Registrars
> > >> > > District boundaries so feel it is highly preferable that these
> > >> changes be
> > >> > > reversed intact.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I regret this is way above my capability so I ask for someone
> > reading
> > >> > this
> > >> > > to please address this issue.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thank you for your kindness.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > By the way, Many thanks to those organised such an enthusiastic
> > >> meeting
> > >> > in
> > >> > > Maynooth yesterday, the future looks good.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mapping hospital departments

[Donal Hunt]

For hospitals that are all one building (or sections of a multi-building -
is that a term??), it sounds like it's a case of using the indoor mapping
scheme:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping

And then display depends on what is most appropriate:


   - Universidad Pública de Navarra - Aulario in OSM
    in OpenLevelUp!
   

   - Universidad Pública de Navarra - Biblioteca in OSM
    in OpenLevelUp!
   



OpenLevelUp looks great for displaying multi-floor buildings.

Donal


On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 16:24, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Over time, I've mapped parts of various hospitals. A map is only useful if
> it serves its end users. Hospitals are big places, so mapping as many of
> the individual buildings and departments is useful.
>
>
> 1. One of the things that I've found is that hospitals are very poor at
> mapping (and signing) themselves (I've mentioned it to some of them & HSE).
> These maps:
> https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/5/cancer/archive/mwcc/campus-map.pdf
> and this
> https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/5/cancer/archive/mwcc/hospital-map.pdf
> of University Hospital Limerick are quite poor and don't really look like
> this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/45766917#map=16/52.6343/-8.6527
>
> 2. To some degree or other, the layout of some hospitals facilitate
> mapping individual departments, as each department is a separate building:
> * Altnagelvin Hospital, Derry
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/123387829#map=16/54.9864/-7.2916
> * Our Lady's Children's Hospital Crumlin
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32063615#map=17/53.32615/-6.31889
> * St. Vincent's, Dublin
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8106524#map=17/53.31685/-6.21267
> * St. James's, Dublin
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32015912#map=18/53.34085/-6.29308
>
>
> 3. However, most of Beaumont Hospital, Dublin is just one building
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/642893440#map=18/53.39078/-6.22300
>
>
> I've done some experimentation:
>
> * building=hospital does work, but means a building on top of a building
> and is poor mapping: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/642893439
>
> *  building=hospital as a node doesn't work:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6034491515
> *  building=roof works, but is only applicable to certain cases:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/316698399
>
>
> Any thoughts on the best way of mapping hospital departments?
>
>
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Changes happening to *.openstreetmap.ie resources over the coming nights

[Donal Hunt]

https://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie has now been migrated (and is running
the latest version of the software).

The new server resources are still c/o John Ronan in TSSG (WIT). I guess
we'll see if performance is any better - I am certainly interested in
measuring the various services with a view of understanding how growth
impacts resources needs.
Regards

Donal

On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 20:59, Dave Corley  wrote:

> Fair play Donal et al for doing this.
>
> Whats the story with the new home? Will the response times be better?
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:32 AM Donal Hunt  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > We're in the process of moving services operating as part of *.
> > openstreetmap.ie to a new server (so we can retire the old one).
> >
> >  Here is a non-exhaustive list of what we're aware of:
> >
> >
> >- Maps (maps.openstreetmap.ie)
> >- Main map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/)
> >   - Irish Language map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/
> >   <
> > https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/?zoom=7=53.5=-6=00BFFF>
> >   )
> >   - Boundary map of Ireland (
> >   http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html
> >   <
> >
> http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html?zoom=7=53.5=-6=B00FFF
> > >
> >   )
> >   - Historical Map Server - GSGS 3906 (
> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BTF)
> >   - Historical Map Server - Bartholomew Quarter Inch to the mile (1:
> >   253440) 1940 (
> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=00B00F)
> >   - Historical Map Server - British War Office One Inch to the mile
> >   (1:63,360) 1941-43 - (GSGS 4136) (
> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?0B000F)
> >   - Historical Map Server - L.J. Richards & Company Civil Parish and
> >   Barony Map of ireland (
> >   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BFFTTFF)
> >- Nominatim (nominatim.openstreetmap.ie)
> >- Overpass
> >- Overpass Turbo (overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie)
> >- Planet (planet.openstreetmap.ie)
> >- Taginfo (taginfo.openstreetmap.ie)
> >- Tilservers (tile.openstreetmap.ie, *.tile.openstreetmap.ie)
> >- IRCbot
> >
> >
> > planet.openstreetmap.ie was migrated in the past few hours (but may take
> > another few hours for DNS caches to refresh).
> >
> > If you notice anything odd, please feel free to followup to this email,
> > shout on #osm-ie (OFTC IRC network) or email me direct. The main focus
> will
> > be on migration and any pre-existing issues will be addressed once the
> > migration is complete.
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[OSM-talk-ie] Changes happening to *.openstreetmap.ie resources over the coming nights

[Donal Hunt]

Hi everyone!

We're in the process of moving services operating as part of *.
openstreetmap.ie to a new server (so we can retire the old one).

 Here is a non-exhaustive list of what we're aware of:


   - Maps (maps.openstreetmap.ie)
   - Main map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/)
  - Irish Language map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/
  
  )
  - Boundary map of Ireland (
  http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html
  

  )
  - Historical Map Server - GSGS 3906 (
  http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BTF)
  - Historical Map Server - Bartholomew Quarter Inch to the mile (1:
  253440) 1940 (
  http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=00B00F)
  - Historical Map Server - British War Office One Inch to the mile
  (1:63,360) 1941-43 - (GSGS 4136) (
  http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?0B000F)
  - Historical Map Server - L.J. Richards & Company Civil Parish and
  Barony Map of ireland (
  http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BFFTTFF)
   - Nominatim (nominatim.openstreetmap.ie)
   - Overpass
   - Overpass Turbo (overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie)
   - Planet (planet.openstreetmap.ie)
   - Taginfo (taginfo.openstreetmap.ie)
   - Tilservers (tile.openstreetmap.ie, *.tile.openstreetmap.ie)
   - IRCbot


planet.openstreetmap.ie was migrated in the past few hours (but may take
another few hours for DNS caches to refresh).

If you notice anything odd, please feel free to followup to this email,
shout on #osm-ie (OFTC IRC network) or email me direct. The main focus will
be on migration and any pre-existing issues will be addressed once the
migration is complete.

Kind regards

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Raths / ringforts

[Donal Hunt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringfort

In Irish language  sources
they are known by a number of names: *ráth* (anglicised *rath*), *lios*
 (anglicised *lis*; cognate with Cornish
 *lis*),[2]
 *caiseal*
 (anglicised *cashel*), *cathair* (anglicised *caher* or *cahir*; cognate
with Welsh  *caer*, Cornish
and Breton  *ker*) and *dún*
 (anglicised *dun* or *doon*; cognate with Welsh and Cornish *din*).[3]
 The *ráth* and
*lios* was an earthen ringfort; the *ráth* being the enclosing bank and the
*lios* being the open space within.[4]
 The
*caiseal* and *cathair* was a stone ringfort.[3]
 The term *dún* was
usually used for any stronghold of importance, which may or may not be
ring-shaped.[3] 

In Ireland, over 40,000 sites have been identified as ringforts and it is
thought that at least 50,000 ringforts existed on the island.[5]
 They
are common throughout the country, with a mean density of just over one
ringfort within any area of 2 km2 (0.8 sq mi). It is likely that many have
been destroyed by farming and urbanisation. However, many hitherto unknown
ringforts have been found thanks to early Ordnance Survey
 maps, aerial photography
, and the archaeological
work that has accompanied road-building.

Based on the above definitions, nodes should tagged with ring_fort but
detailed mapping could use ráth and lios. I assume a relation tagged with
ringfort would be appropriate for locations that have the ráth and lios
mapped.


Thoughts?


Donal


p.s. I have no other knowledge / opinion other that want I've read above. I
do think they are cool and worth mapping. 50,000 is a lot of work!!!

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 17:37, moltonel 3x Combo  wrote:

> On 05/09/2018, Colm Moore  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fortification%20type=ringfort?uselang=en-GB
> >
> >
> > Was someone running a project on mapping / tidying-up raths / ringforts?
> I
> > notice many are mapped in Cork and Kilkenny, but few elsewhere.
>
> User b-unicycling has added most of the Kilkenny ringforts (from some
> external source, I can't recall exactly but I had checked with her
> that it was ODBL-compatible) and I then fixed the tagging and reviewed
> a few using Bing and GSGS.
>
> See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52885942
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55717926
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55718276
>
> > I haven't come across many of these until the last few weeks. In that
> time,
> > I seem to have been tagging them incorrectly.
> >
> > Can I check the correct tagging is:
> > historic=archaeological_site
> > site_type=fortification
> > fortification_type=ringfort ?
>
> Yes, that's what I've been going for after looking at taginfo and the
> wiki, but see discussion below.
>
> > I checked http://stat.latlon.org/ie/latest/ for the word "fort", (I
> didn't
> > check for name~fort or description~fort) and there are many tagging
> > variations (not all of these will be ringforts).
> >
> > archaeological_site=earthworks
> > archaeological_site=fort
> > archaeological_site=ring_fort
> > archaeological_site=ringfort
> > castle_type=fortification
> > castle_type=fortress
> > earthworks=rath
> > earthworks=ringfort
> > earthworks=ringfort (rath)
> > fortification=ring_ditch
> > fortification_type=hill_fort
> > fortification_type=hillfort
> > fortification_type=ringfort
> > historic=fort
> > historic=fortification
> > historic=hillfort
> > historic=ring fort
> > historic=ring_fort
> > inscription=Ring fort
> > military=fort
> > note=Ancient fort
> > note=Ancient ring fort
> > note=Fawney (fainne) means ring, maybe the site of a ringfort? Was also
> > slang to kiss the King/Lords ring. Very interesting as the road is called
> > the Royal Oak
> > note=Fort
> > note=Not sure if these are Barrows or rath, or what the difference is!
> Ring
> > fort
> > note=Not sure if these are Barrows or raths, or what the difference is!
> Ring
> > fort
> > note=Ring Fort?
> > note=Round Fort?
> > note=ring fort
> > note=ringfort
> > ruins=fort
> > ruins=ringfort
> > site_type=earthwork
> > site_type=earthworks
> > site_type=enclosure
> > site_type=fortification
> > site_type=ring fort
> > site_type=ringfort
> > site_type=ringfort;megalith
> > type=ringfort
> > wikipedia=en:Ringfort
> > wikipedia_1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringfort
>
> I last looked 

[OSM-talk-ie] Speed restrictions on N20 near Blarney

[Donal Hunt]

Hi folk,

I've submitted the following conditional speed restrictions on the N20 near
Blarney  (will be in place for ~ 3 months) with the following changesets:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59517151
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59517288

OSMCha link


Interested to see feedback from others as to whether this is worthwhile or
not...
Regards

Donal
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[OSM-talk-ie] Creation of an interim board for OSM Ireland

[Donal Hunt]

Hi all,

As part of the effort to formalise the entity that is OSM Ireland, we have
created an interim board whose sole purpose is to establish a legal entity
for the organisation.

The following people have already been nominated and agreed:

   - Tadeusz Cantwell
   - Donal Hunt
   - Ciaran Staunton

We are now looking for 2 additional people to be nominated and seconded to
support the work over the next 2-3 months. Once the legal entity is formed,
the board will stand down and a new board will be elected. There is a no
onus on the members of interim board to run for re-election.

If you're passionate about OSM and are willing to spare some time to
develop a robust, ethical and sustainable organisation that the Irish OSM
community can be proud of, please put yourself forward. Experience of being
a director is helpful but not mandatory. Diversity will be championed - we
need a board that represents the community so please contact Tad, Ciaran or
myself privately if you feel that is appropriate.

Some reading for those unfamiliar with boards:

   - The Role of Directors and the Board in Charity and Not-For-Profit
   Organisations
   
<https://www.iodireland.ie/resources-policy/directors-faqs/role-directors-and-board-charity-and-not-profit-organisations>
   - What Makes A Great Board Member?
   
<https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanstolle/2014/06/19/what-makes-a-great-board-member-you-really-need-to-get-this-right/#63180e542ccb>
   - Guide to Board Membership
   
<http://www.boardmatchireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Arthur-Cox-Guide-to-Board-Membership.pdf>

I will set a deadline of 09 April 2018 at 12:00 IST for nominations (2
weeks from today) but will extend it if needed.

Kind regards

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting minutes - 2 December 2017

[Donal Hunt]

Thanks Tad!

The minutes are still incorrect as I was not present. My understanding was
that Dermot McNally was present so the attendees line needs to be amended
to remove me and add Dermot.
Regards

Donal

On 24 March 2018 at 11:02, Tadeusz Cantwell <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is the reformatted minutes from Ciaran.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZtJpYhL0tnreOmuLvN0SyskKVStq
> BQPA7oq4hS6QH0/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Sorry I mixed up you and Dermot McNally, he was attending. I'm pretty sure
> you were one of the names mentioned.
>
> Hope the meeting is going/went well.
>
> Tadeusz
>
> On Sat 24 Mar 2018, 11:51 Donal Hunt, <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Some queries were raised when we reviewed the minutes at today's meeting.
> >
> > Can we clarify the names of the interim board? Was I nominated in my
> > absence (I'm cool with that)? It's not clear who Declan is (no full name)
> > or who the invitatees are (does someone have the sheet with the names on
> > it??).
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Donal
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017, 19:56 Tadeusz Cantwell, <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Ok. Will have to do it from memory.
> > > Yes was on 2nd Dec, as corrected above.
> > >
> > > Three where there, myself, Donal, Brian.
> > > Recapped on previous notes, esp, that a DAC with non profit specified
> in
> > > the documents was the best approach. Went over Ciaran's advice who made
> > his
> > > apologies due to illness.
> > >
> > > Voted in and choose board members who might be interested, to keep
> > > everything moving forward.
> > > Interim board
> > > Tadeusz Cantwell
> > > Declan
> > > Ciaran Staunton
> > > Two invites. (Names on sheet, don't recall them)
> > >
> > > Discussed sensitivities around the border. That the company would be
> > > registered in the Ireland, but would mention working inclusivly with
> N.I
> > > Went over promtional avenues. I should have done a Tog blog post. Will
> do
> > > for the next one. Contacting OSM and other chapters and a few other
> > things
> > > ive forgotten.
> > >
> > > That is the main gist of it. Missing some details.
> > >
> > > Tadeusz Cantwell
> > >
> > > On 10 Dec 2017 19:31, "Donal Hunt" <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Correction: I believe the date was 02 December 2017.
> > > >
> > > > Apologies for my lack of attendance. I was suffering with an ear
> > > infection.
> > > > Please do share the notes of last weekend's meeting.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Donal
> > > >
> > > > On 10 Dec 2017 19:19, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As a reminder, there was a meeting for setting up an official
> chapter
> > > of
> > > > > OSMIreland on the 2nd of Nov. Declan was taking notes, which i hope
> > he
> > > > will
> > > > > post soon. In short following advice from Ciaran Staunton we set up
> > an
> > > > > interim committee, with myself, Ciaran, Donal, and two invites. We
> > > should
> > > > > meet at the latest by the end of Feb to set up apply for company
> > > status.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM IRL Annual General Meeting

[Donal Hunt]

Just confirming the meeting is going ahead at 10:00 UTC tomorrow (24 March
2018).

Thanks!

Donal

On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, 09:49 Ciarán Staunton, 
wrote:

> Rory, yes... snow blinded . The sentence should read as:  "The DAC
> structure is limiting in the scope of things the company may want to do
> which is why DAC is not recommended."
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Rory McCann  wrote:
>
> > Hi Ciarán
> >
> > Good to get proper legal details. Good job. 
> >
> > On 28/02/18 22:18, Ciarán Staunton wrote:
> >
> >> The DAC structure is limiting in the scope of things the company may
> want
> >> to do which is why CLG is not recommended.
> >>
> >
> > Did you word this the right way? 
> >
> > The OpenStreetMap Foundation is a Company limited by guarantee as well.
> In
> > the UK, OSMUK is a "Community Interest Company", but I think that's a new
> > legal structure in the UK https://osmuk.org/become-member/
> >
> > It's great to see all of yous getting the ball rolling on this. 
> >
> > Rory
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM IRL Annual General Meeting

[Donal Hunt]

Re: CLG creation before or after. For me, I think after the AGM makes sense
as the community gets to ratify the names officially. Once the paperwork is
ready to go, the filing is quite straightforward I believe so timing
shouldn't matter.

Re: schedule - 24th works really well for me. There is another event
happening that day that I would like to at least pop into so +1 for that
date.

Re: constitution and other articles - the Google drive was certainly used
during the first meetup. I didn't make the most recent one so can comment
on that. Happy to contribute if needed (even if it's to corrals people to
do stuff).

Regards

Donal


On 28 Feb 2018 23:40, "Dave Corley"  wrote:

Hi,

My answers inline below

   1. What I would like to clear up before the AGM is whether the members
   of this mailing list wish the nominated group to proceed to form the
   company before the AGM, or post the AGM. It may shape how the meeting
takes
   place.

If there will be advice available to assist in the decision making process,
it would make sense to wait.

   2. Also Bob Tallent cannot attend on the 10th March and I think it would
   be better to have him there to facilitate questions. His real value to us
   is advising on what we need to assemble on us. Would the members be ok if
   we postpone the AGM until the 24th? I have checked with Tadeusz and it
   appears that Tog is available on that date.

24th is fine. Again, makes sense to adjust to avail of the support

   3. Also, can those guys who were working on a constitution and memos and
   articles bring these to some advanced stage and propose them for the AGM?

Is the Google drive still the location for these?

Dave



On 28 Feb 2018 21:19, "Ciarán Staunton"  wrote:

Hi All
I am sorry if this is a longer than usual message and I will try to be
brief as there is a lot of ground to cover. And 3 questions at the end.

I have secured (free of charge) the services of Robert Tallent of Synergy
Group. He is a sound person, he has a lot of experience of non-profit and
charity company formation, and provides advice on registration and
compliance for a range of different clients but usually small and
formative. His website is available if your websearch for his name with
"Synergy".

As regards the conversations I have had with Bob I gave him the following
brief (which was what was agreed at the last):
- Which structure will protect the members and directors against legally
liability, and will share the limited liability equally?
- Which structure will closely match the requirements of the Foundation to
be non-for-profit?
- Which structure will allow for the eventual registration as a charity
(enabling donations)
- Which structure might in the future enable seeking a grant or employing
someone

Bob has outlined to me that a Limited Partnership is a dangerous option
unless the lead partner is also a salaried executive director. The optimal
structure to satisfy all these is a *Company Limited by Guarantee (CLG)*.
The CLG once registered can then later seek charitable status from the
regulator, and is also free to apply for grants or other funds. The
understanding of non-for-profit with CLGs is simply to monitor that profit
seeking is not the main objective of the majority of activities, and that
when profits arise there is a plan to re-invest them. The DAC structure is
limiting in the scope of things the company may want to do which is why CLG
is not recommended.


   1. What I would like to clear up before the AGM is whether the members
   of this mailing list wish the nominated group to proceed to form the
   company before the AGM, or post the AGM. It may shape how the meeting
takes
   place.
   2. Also Bob Tallent cannot attend on the 10th March and I think it would
   be better to have him there to facilitate questions. His real value to us
   is advising on what we need to assemble on us. Would the members be ok if
   we postpone the AGM until the 24th? I have checked with Tadeusz and it
   appears that Tog is available on that date.
   3. Also, can those guys who were working on a constitution and memos and
   articles bring these to some advanced stage and propose them for the AGM?

I'm sorry again for the long email. Please speak up on all three. I know
you are all snowbound, so no excuses :)

Ciarán
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Round towers

[Donal Hunt]

+1 for the suggestion.

I think a proposal for a specific type that covers Irish round towers is
probably warranted. Do we know if the design is unique to Ireland or are
there examples in other parts of the world? Would be a shame to use
"tower:type=defensive" but it may be the correct approach.

Donal

On 19 Feb 2018 21:43, "Tom Pfeifer"  wrote:

> On 18.02.2018 00:45, Colm Donoghue wrote:
>
>> When I looked to see how to tag the round tower there's nothing to suggest
>> that it's an Irish round tower documented in the wiki
>>
>> I'm proposing tagging all Irish round towers as man_made=irish_round_tower
>>
>
> I'd prefer to start with the more generic man_made=tower, and specify the
> round tower with tower:type, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org
> /wiki/Key:tower:type
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Date for AGM update

[Donal Hunt]

Is March 10 confirmed?
Thanks!

Donal

On 23 Jan 2018 22:48, "Tadeusz Cantwell"  wrote:

> Sorry for the late update. Another event has been booked in for the 3rd of
> March. So I will book for the following weekend or the next available
> Saturday.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass Turbo error (hamster feeding time)

[Donal Hunt]

I'll try and take a look today… Hopefully it's not related to the change we
made during the week around enabling SSL on the web properties.

Can you provide a reproducible test case that we can use for validating the
problem / verify any fix?

D.

On 20 Jan 2018 02:53, "Colm Moore"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> I'm getting the following error when running even basic queries:
>
>
> An error occured during the execution of the overpass query! This is what
> overpass API returned:
>
> Error: runtime error: open64: 2 No such file or directory
> /osm3s_v0.7.54_osm_base Dispatcher_Client::1
>
>
> I'll buy a sandwich at the AGM for whoever fixes it. :)
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 2nd Nov

[Donal Hunt]

Correction: I believe the date was 02 December 2017.

Apologies for my lack of attendance. I was suffering with an ear infection.
Please do share the notes of last weekend's meeting.

Thanks!

Donal

On 10 Dec 2017 19:19, "Tadeusz Cantwell"  wrote:

> As a reminder, there was a meeting for setting up an official chapter of
> OSMIreland on the 2nd of Nov. Declan was taking notes, which i hope he will
> post soon. In short following advice from Ciaran Staunton we set up an
> interim committee, with myself, Ciaran, Donal, and two invites. We should
> meet at the latest by the end of Feb to set up apply for company status.
>
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[OSM-talk-ie] Outcomes of 21 October 2017 meetup

[Donal Hunt]

Hi everyone!

I believe someone documented the action items and owners from the meetup on
21 October 2017. Can you share them here (or in the Google drive folder) so
we can check them off as they are completed?

Also, where do we want to keep the discussion regarding the possible
establishment of a legal entity? Is this list the right place or should we
create a separate list? I have an update regarding my task so happy to
share in the relevant place.

Thanks!

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[OSM-talk-ie] Fwd: [HOT] OSM & gender inclusivity - survey

[Donal Hunt]

FYI

English survey is at
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf2-MoTnCgqc3Jnu1zValuh6enKzR_049k1aAQtR2sl9qEJsw/viewform
I already filled it out with my perspective of the Irish community. Would
be great if a few others could add their observations. Interested to hear
how some of the efforts for #MapLesotho faired in this regard (does age
play a factor?).

Donal

-- Forwarded message --
From: Rebecca Firth 
Date: Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:06 PM
Subject: [HOT] OSM & gender inclusivity - survey
To: hot 


Hi,

The GeoChicas (http://geochicas.org/) are researching perspectives and
experiences around gender in the OpenStreetMap community. If you have a few
moments, and are interested in helping OSM (and HOT) to be an inclusive
place, fill out the survey (available in 7 languages):
http://geochicas.org/index.php/que-hacemos/proyectos/encuesta-sobre-genero/

Thanks,

Rebecca

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 25th Nov

[Donal Hunt]

Thanks for keeping us informed. Fingers crossed the 2nd works out for
everyone.

Donal

On 1 Nov 2017 10:54, "Tadeusz Cantwell"  wrote:

> Hey, I had something come up for the 25th so i resubmited the proposal for
> the 2nd as it was the other option to meet.
>
> Tadeusz
>
> On 21 Oct 2017 9:08 PM, "Tadeusz Cantwell"  wrote:
>
> > If there are no objections to Sat Nov 25th, from 10am to 4pm, in the next
> > couple of days I will submit the proposal.
> > Tad
> >
> > On 21 October 2017 at 17:48, Dave Corley  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Tadeusz,
> >>
> >> That's great.
> >>
> >> I think the hours today worked well, the finish was early and a break at
> >> the half way point for lunch was good. I'd suggest the same 10-4 again
> >>
> >> Thanks again to Tog for hosting
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 21 Oct 2017 17:15, "Tadeusz Cantwell"  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks everyone who came to the meeting to organise OSM Ireland. Tog
> is
> >> > free on the 25th Nov. If the group are ok with that date I can submit
> a
> >> > proposal.
> >> >
> >> > What time should be put down to start and finish.
> >> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] OpenStreetMap Ireland - Invitation to collaborate

[Donal Hunt (via Google Drive)]

I've shared an item with you:

OpenStreetMap Ireland
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_j-ESJsQ-8rYjlIdUlZY2pibXM?usp=sharing=COzV2M8B=59eb4edf

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online. To open this item, just click  
the link above.


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Saturday meeting.

[Donal Hunt]

Quick check: is there parking at TOG or am I better taking public transport?

Thanks!

Donal

On 19 Oct 2017 18:56, "Brian Hollinshead"  wrote:

> Hi Dave
> I will be there as well.
>
>
> On 19 October 2017 at 17:38, Dave Corley  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Everything is still planned to go ahead, 10am to 4pm.
> >
> > Between Facebook, the site booking form and a few private messages, it's
> > looking like there will be about 20 attending, possibly more.
> >
> > I have a load of office supplies bits already that'd I think we'll need
> > (post-its, pens, paper). If you want to bring additional supplies, bring
> > them. If they're not used you can always take them away with you again
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 19 Oct 2017 16:56, "Donal Diamond"  wrote:
> >
> > > John good luck!
> > >
> > > https://xkcd.com/705/
> > >
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 October 2017 at 14:17, John Ronan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > I won't be able to make the meeting Saturday. In work, we were 18
> hours
> > > > on Generator Monday night/Tuesday, another 4 hours this morning and I
> > > > expect we will be again on Saturday. So I expect I'll be here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Apologies,
> > > >
> > > > John (jpronans)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Saturday meeting.

[Donal Hunt]

I intend to travel up from Cork despite the weather forecast for the
weekend (windy but we'll be inside so it'll be fine).

If others are unable to make it (still plenty of people recovering from
Monday it seems) and a reschedule become likely, notification before lunch
tomorrow would be appreciated. Will cancel the trip up and do the other
errands I have another weekend.

Let us know if you need anything to support the event. Can bring printer,
office supplies, etc if needed.

Thanks!

Donal

On 19 Oct 2017 14:18, "John Ronan"  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I won't be able to make the meeting Saturday. In work, we were 18 hours
> on Generator Monday night/Tuesday, another 4 hours this morning and I
> expect we will be again on Saturday. So I expect I'll be here.
>
>
> Apologies,
>
> John (jpronans)
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie

[Donal Hunt]

I'm picking up again with this effort. Will be working on dev4 this morning
with a view of having it run the relevant services.
Updates to follow.

d.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> tileserver should be up-to-date now too though I suspect that there may be
> tile images that need to be generated. I don't know how to validate if
> everything is healthy so please take a look and give a thumbs up/down. :)
>
> d.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Colm,
>>
>> I believe overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie should be fresh again now. I'm
>> not familiar enough with the stack yet to be confident that everything is
>> good but by simple test of running a query and looking at > osm_base="$TIMESTAMP"/> suggests the issue is gone.
>>
>> d.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> postgresql wasn't running. Not sure if that was intended or not (logs
>>> indicate the last thing was a fast shutdown which suggests human action).
>>> I've restarted it and will monitor for updates in the services that
>>> depend on it (e.g. osm2pgsql, nominatim, etc)
>>>
>>> d.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks to Donal Diamond, I have login access to the servers and have
>>>> started diagnosing the issues with tileservers updating.
>>>> Not sure where the best place to track state of issues is (Is there a
>>>> bug tracker somewhere that you use?).
>>>>
>>>> Anyway - looks like a protgresql unix domain socket issue. osm2pgsql is
>>>> failing with the following:
>>>>
>>>> osm2pgsql SVN version 0.90.1-dev (64 bit id space)
>>>>
>>>> Using built-in tag processing pipeline
>>>> Using projection SRS 900913 (Spherical Mercator)
>>>> Osm2pgsql failed due to ERROR: Connection to database failed: could not
>>>> connect to server: No such file or directory
>>>> Is the server running locally and accepting
>>>> connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/[REDACTED
>>>> ]"?
>>>>
>>>> It's mostly likely to be a permissions issue or something related to a
>>>> package upgrade in the past. Will post further updates here unless I hear
>>>> otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> d.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Donal Diamond <
>>>> donal.diam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Donal - nice will chat on irc
>>>>>
>>>>> overpass.ie is getting lots of requests from 2 ips in Karlsruhe and
>>>>> diskspace filled up due to logging.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know one OSMIE member currently living in Karlsruhe ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> D
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 September 2017 at 12:04, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi Donal,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I wouldn't mind learning more about the OSM infrastructure. Happy to
>>>>> > discuss further over email or a chat.
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> >
>>>>> > (another) Donal
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Donal Diamond <
>>>>> donal.diam...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Looks like planet.openstreetmap.ie is updating.
>>>>> > >  - http://planet.openstreetmap.ie/replication/15minute/state.txt
>>>>> > >timestamp=2017-09-13T09:30:02Z
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > But tileserver is not updating in a long time
>>>>> > >  - http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/state.txt
>>>>> > >  - timestamp=2017-06-08T10\:15\:26Z
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > If you look at the Data tab for an overpass request it will show
>>>>> > > - "timestamp_osm_base": "2017-09-11T07:15:02Z",
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I've have a look when I get time but tbh I dont have much time
>>>>> anymore to
>>>>> > > feed the hamsters.
>>>>> > >
>>

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] DIT study of Balbriggan

[Donal Hunt]

They may want to look at the task manager software that HOT use - it's very
good for breaking up areas and doing surveys. Should be able to run a
specific version just for their needs.

d.

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> Balbriggan. This is with their undergrads B.Sc in Environmental Management
> and Spatial Planning. They have decided to use openstreetmap for
> Balbriggan, but obviously it would need a lot of detail added to get the
> particular data they want.
>
> I have talked to their teachers and advised them on getting JOSM into their
> lab machines to do some desktop mapping initially. However, they want to
> also survey so I have recommended Mapillary, Street Complete, OSM tracker,
> and maps.me... as well as a paper solution with field papers.
>
> Has anyone else heard of a localised effort like this? I think the class
> has 20 students.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie

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tileserver should be up-to-date now too though I suspect that there may be
tile images that need to be generated. I don't know how to validate if
everything is healthy so please take a look and give a thumbs up/down. :)

d.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Colm,
>
> I believe overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie should be fresh again now. I'm
> not familiar enough with the stack yet to be confident that everything is
> good but by simple test of running a query and looking at  osm_base="$TIMESTAMP"/> suggests the issue is gone.
>
> d.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> postgresql wasn't running. Not sure if that was intended or not (logs
>> indicate the last thing was a fast shutdown which suggests human action).
>> I've restarted it and will monitor for updates in the services that
>> depend on it (e.g. osm2pgsql, nominatim, etc)
>>
>> d.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to Donal Diamond, I have login access to the servers and have
>>> started diagnosing the issues with tileservers updating.
>>> Not sure where the best place to track state of issues is (Is there a
>>> bug tracker somewhere that you use?).
>>>
>>> Anyway - looks like a protgresql unix domain socket issue. osm2pgsql is
>>> failing with the following:
>>>
>>> osm2pgsql SVN version 0.90.1-dev (64 bit id space)
>>>
>>> Using built-in tag processing pipeline
>>> Using projection SRS 900913 (Spherical Mercator)
>>> Osm2pgsql failed due to ERROR: Connection to database failed: could not
>>> connect to server: No such file or directory
>>> Is the server running locally and accepting
>>> connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/[REDACTED
>>> ]"?
>>>
>>> It's mostly likely to be a permissions issue or something related to a
>>> package upgrade in the past. Will post further updates here unless I hear
>>> otherwise.
>>>
>>> d.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Donal Diamond <donal.diam...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Donal - nice will chat on irc
>>>>
>>>> overpass.ie is getting lots of requests from 2 ips in Karlsruhe and
>>>> diskspace filled up due to logging.
>>>>
>>>> I know one OSMIE member currently living in Karlsruhe ;-)
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>> On 13 September 2017 at 12:04, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi Donal,
>>>> >
>>>> > I wouldn't mind learning more about the OSM infrastructure. Happy to
>>>> > discuss further over email or a chat.
>>>> > Regards
>>>> >
>>>> > (another) Donal
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Donal Diamond <
>>>> donal.diam...@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Looks like planet.openstreetmap.ie is updating.
>>>> > >  - http://planet.openstreetmap.ie/replication/15minute/state.txt
>>>> > >timestamp=2017-09-13T09:30:02Z
>>>> > >
>>>> > > But tileserver is not updating in a long time
>>>> > >  - http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/state.txt
>>>> > >  - timestamp=2017-06-08T10\:15\:26Z
>>>> > >
>>>> > > If you look at the Data tab for an overpass request it will show
>>>> > > - "timestamp_osm_base": "2017-09-11T07:15:02Z",
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I've have a look when I get time but tbh I dont have much time
>>>> anymore to
>>>> > > feed the hamsters.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Any unix sysadmins want to volunteer to help maintaining the OSM IE
>>>> > > infrastructure?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > D
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 13 September 2017 at 10:33, Colm Moore <colmmoor...@hotmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > Hi,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > This seems to have not updated in 2 days.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie

[Donal Hunt]

Colm,

I believe overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie should be fresh again now. I'm
not familiar enough with the stack yet to be confident that everything is
good but by simple test of running a query and looking at  suggests the issue is gone.

d.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> postgresql wasn't running. Not sure if that was intended or not (logs
> indicate the last thing was a fast shutdown which suggests human action).
> I've restarted it and will monitor for updates in the services that depend
> on it (e.g. osm2pgsql, nominatim, etc)
>
> d.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Donal Diamond, I have login access to the servers and have
>> started diagnosing the issues with tileservers updating.
>> Not sure where the best place to track state of issues is (Is there a bug
>> tracker somewhere that you use?).
>>
>> Anyway - looks like a protgresql unix domain socket issue. osm2pgsql is
>> failing with the following:
>>
>> osm2pgsql SVN version 0.90.1-dev (64 bit id space)
>>
>> Using built-in tag processing pipeline
>> Using projection SRS 900913 (Spherical Mercator)
>> Osm2pgsql failed due to ERROR: Connection to database failed: could not
>> connect to server: No such file or directory
>> Is the server running locally and accepting
>> connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/[REDACTED
>> ]"?
>>
>> It's mostly likely to be a permissions issue or something related to a
>> package upgrade in the past. Will post further updates here unless I hear
>> otherwise.
>>
>> d.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Donal Diamond <donal.diam...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Donal - nice will chat on irc
>>>
>>> overpass.ie is getting lots of requests from 2 ips in Karlsruhe and
>>> diskspace filled up due to logging.
>>>
>>> I know one OSMIE member currently living in Karlsruhe ;-)
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>> On 13 September 2017 at 12:04, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Donal,
>>> >
>>> > I wouldn't mind learning more about the OSM infrastructure. Happy to
>>> > discuss further over email or a chat.
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > (another) Donal
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Donal Diamond <
>>> donal.diam...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Looks like planet.openstreetmap.ie is updating.
>>> > >  - http://planet.openstreetmap.ie/replication/15minute/state.txt
>>> > >timestamp=2017-09-13T09:30:02Z
>>> > >
>>> > > But tileserver is not updating in a long time
>>> > >  - http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/state.txt
>>> > >  - timestamp=2017-06-08T10\:15\:26Z
>>> > >
>>> > > If you look at the Data tab for an overpass request it will show
>>> > > - "timestamp_osm_base": "2017-09-11T07:15:02Z",
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I've have a look when I get time but tbh I dont have much time
>>> anymore to
>>> > > feed the hamsters.
>>> > >
>>> > > Any unix sysadmins want to volunteer to help maintaining the OSM IE
>>> > > infrastructure?
>>> > >
>>> > > D
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On 13 September 2017 at 10:33, Colm Moore <colmmoor...@hotmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hi,
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > This seems to have not updated in 2 days.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Have the hamsters reached escape velocity? :)
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Colm
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > 
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>>> can
>>> > > > change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie

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postgresql wasn't running. Not sure if that was intended or not (logs
indicate the last thing was a fast shutdown which suggests human action).
I've restarted it and will monitor for updates in the services that depend
on it (e.g. osm2pgsql, nominatim, etc)

d.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to Donal Diamond, I have login access to the servers and have
> started diagnosing the issues with tileservers updating.
> Not sure where the best place to track state of issues is (Is there a bug
> tracker somewhere that you use?).
>
> Anyway - looks like a protgresql unix domain socket issue. osm2pgsql is
> failing with the following:
>
> osm2pgsql SVN version 0.90.1-dev (64 bit id space)
>
> Using built-in tag processing pipeline
> Using projection SRS 900913 (Spherical Mercator)
> Osm2pgsql failed due to ERROR: Connection to database failed: could not
> connect to server: No such file or directory
> Is the server running locally and accepting
> connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/[
> REDACTED]"?
>
> It's mostly likely to be a permissions issue or something related to a
> package upgrade in the past. Will post further updates here unless I hear
> otherwise.
>
> d.
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Donal Diamond <donal.diam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Donal - nice will chat on irc
>>
>> overpass.ie is getting lots of requests from 2 ips in Karlsruhe and
>> diskspace filled up due to logging.
>>
>> I know one OSMIE member currently living in Karlsruhe ;-)
>>
>> D
>>
>> On 13 September 2017 at 12:04, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Donal,
>> >
>> > I wouldn't mind learning more about the OSM infrastructure. Happy to
>> > discuss further over email or a chat.
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > (another) Donal
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Donal Diamond <
>> donal.diam...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Looks like planet.openstreetmap.ie is updating.
>> > >  - http://planet.openstreetmap.ie/replication/15minute/state.txt
>> > >timestamp=2017-09-13T09:30:02Z
>> > >
>> > > But tileserver is not updating in a long time
>> > >  - http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/state.txt
>> > >  - timestamp=2017-06-08T10\:15\:26Z
>> > >
>> > > If you look at the Data tab for an overpass request it will show
>> > > - "timestamp_osm_base": "2017-09-11T07:15:02Z",
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I've have a look when I get time but tbh I dont have much time
>> anymore to
>> > > feed the hamsters.
>> > >
>> > > Any unix sysadmins want to volunteer to help maintaining the OSM IE
>> > > infrastructure?
>> > >
>> > > D
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 13 September 2017 at 10:33, Colm Moore <colmmoor...@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > This seems to have not updated in 2 days.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Have the hamsters reached escape velocity? :)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Colm
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 
>> > > > ---
>> > > > Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
>> > > > change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
>> Margaret
>> > > Mead
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie

[Donal Hunt]

Thanks to Donal Diamond, I have login access to the servers and have
started diagnosing the issues with tileservers updating.
Not sure where the best place to track state of issues is (Is there a bug
tracker somewhere that you use?).

Anyway - looks like a protgresql unix domain socket issue. osm2pgsql is
failing with the following:

osm2pgsql SVN version 0.90.1-dev (64 bit id space)

Using built-in tag processing pipeline
Using projection SRS 900913 (Spherical Mercator)
Osm2pgsql failed due to ERROR: Connection to database failed: could not
connect to server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/[REDACTED]"?

It's mostly likely to be a permissions issue or something related to a
package upgrade in the past. Will post further updates here unless I hear
otherwise.

d.

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Donal Diamond <donal.diam...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Donal - nice will chat on irc
>
> overpass.ie is getting lots of requests from 2 ips in Karlsruhe and
> diskspace filled up due to logging.
>
> I know one OSMIE member currently living in Karlsruhe ;-)
>
> D
>
> On 13 September 2017 at 12:04, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Donal,
> >
> > I wouldn't mind learning more about the OSM infrastructure. Happy to
> > discuss further over email or a chat.
> > Regards
> >
> > (another) Donal
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Donal Diamond <donal.diam...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like planet.openstreetmap.ie is updating.
> > >  - http://planet.openstreetmap.ie/replication/15minute/state.txt
> > >timestamp=2017-09-13T09:30:02Z
> > >
> > > But tileserver is not updating in a long time
> > >  - http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/state.txt
> > >  - timestamp=2017-06-08T10\:15\:26Z
> > >
> > > If you look at the Data tab for an overpass request it will show
> > > - "timestamp_osm_base": "2017-09-11T07:15:02Z",
> > >
> > >
> > > I've have a look when I get time but tbh I dont have much time anymore
> to
> > > feed the hamsters.
> > >
> > > Any unix sysadmins want to volunteer to help maintaining the OSM IE
> > > infrastructure?
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13 September 2017 at 10:33, Colm Moore <colmmoor...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This seems to have not updated in 2 days.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have the hamsters reached escape velocity? :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Colm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > ---
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> > > > change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
> Margaret
> > > Mead
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie

[Donal Hunt]

Hi Donal,

I wouldn't mind learning more about the OSM infrastructure. Happy to
discuss further over email or a chat.
Regards

(another) Donal

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Donal Diamond 
wrote:

> Looks like planet.openstreetmap.ie is updating.
>  - http://planet.openstreetmap.ie/replication/15minute/state.txt
>timestamp=2017-09-13T09:30:02Z
>
> But tileserver is not updating in a long time
>  - http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/state.txt
>  - timestamp=2017-06-08T10\:15\:26Z
>
> If you look at the Data tab for an overpass request it will show
> - "timestamp_osm_base": "2017-09-11T07:15:02Z",
>
>
> I've have a look when I get time but tbh I dont have much time anymore to
> feed the hamsters.
>
> Any unix sysadmins want to volunteer to help maintaining the OSM IE
> infrastructure?
>
> D
>
>
> On 13 September 2017 at 10:33, Colm Moore  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > This seems to have not updated in 2 days.
> >
> >
> > Have the hamsters reached escape velocity? :)
> >
> >
> > Colm
> >
> >
> > 
> > ---
> > Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
> > change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret
> Mead
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Donal Hunt]

I'm certainly interested in attending (based in Cork, Ireland) so need some
leadtime and ability to travel up for it.  Either Saturday seems good right
now.
Thanks!

Donal

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Dave Corley  wrote:

> Much appreciated folks.
>
> Can you let me know when the formal approval is given. I'll set up a ticket
> booth to track numbers then.
>
> Thanks again,
> Dave
>
> On 11 Sep 2017 20:08, "Tadeusz Cantwell"  wrote:
>
> > As a member of Tog I can come in early on the 21st to open up and put my
> > name down to host the event.
> > Tad
> >
> > On 11 September 2017 at 13:39, Dave Corley  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jeffrey,
> > >
> > > A 4pm finish might not be a bad idea especially for those traveling.
> > Would
> > > it be possible to start earlier? Say 10 or 11? I'm just mindful that
> > there
> > > will be a lot of things to go through and I would like to leave time
> for
> > >  discussions. On the other hand, I don't want to inconvenience you (or
> > > other Tog members) too much as you are doing us a favour.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Jeffrey Roe 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is an internal event on the 21st that starts at 4pm. So you
> > > > would need to finish up then or run it on the 14th.
> > > > An event takes 5 days for Tog to approve and you need a member to
> host
> > > > you.  I could possible do the 21st but you would need someone else to
> > > > host if you wanted the 14th.
> > > > Jeffrey Roe,
> > > > www.tog.ie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11 September 2017 at 10:41, Dave Corley 
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Rounding back on this again. Between the responses on the mail
> list,
> > > > > Facebook and previous surveys, the general consensus is to go ahead
> > > with
> > > > > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I wanted to stay
> > > quiet
> > > > > and see what others thought first. To your point, yes, its possible
> > to
> > > do
> > > > > everything I stated outside of a formal body, but given we are an
> > > > informal
> > > > > grouping of similarly minded folks for over a decade and
> > organisational
> > > > > interest/involvement is decreasing rather than increasing, I think
> > its
> > > > > necessary to do this if we are to ever become "more". Your comment
> > > about
> > > > > there being a functioning group is bang on the money too. Right
> now I
> > > > feel
> > > > > there is such a thing, and the infrastructure is more or less in
> > place
> > > (
> > > > we
> > > > > are starting in a much better position than our UK counterparts).
> > > > >
> > > > > That being said, after the original survey questions a year ago,
> the
> > > mail
> > > > > list and facebook responses and some private feedback, I think, as
> > > usual,
> > > > > the distance factor is the biggest hurdle. With that in mind I
> think
> > > its
> > > > > best to change from a series of meetings on the subject, to a
> single
> > > one,
> > > > > where several of us come together and blitz the main items:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Constitution
> > > > > - Memorandum of association
> > > > > - Articles of association
> > > > > - Interim board
> > > > > - etc etc
> > > > >
> > > > > What I looking to achieve is to get to a point where we are 90% of
> > the
> > > > way
> > > > > there. Afterwards, everything achieved would be put up online for
> > > > feedback,
> > > > > comment and to close out any remaining items.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm hoping a single session of 5-6 hours should be good enough for
> > > this,
> > > > > say from 12-5/6 on a Saturday. I'm hoping that by limiting this to
> a
> > > > single
> > > > > day, to get a much larger group to participate.
> > > > >
> > > > > In order to keep things moving through the day, I'm going to try
> > > organise
> > > > > some sponsorship of refreshments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would the Tog folks on this list know if Tog is available on a
> > Saturday
> > > > in
> > > > > Oct? Say the 14th or 21st. If not, I'll try sort something else.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once a date and location is set, I'll set up an invite page, just
> to
> > be
> > > > > able to track numbers attending in the event I get sponsorship for
> > > > > refreshments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Rory McCann  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I agree with Dave, it would be good to get a formal OSM body set
> up.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yes, for doing more mapping events, you don't need a formal body,
> > but
> > > > >> you do it you want to be an OSMF local chapter, and I suspect it
> > would
> > > > >> be easier to talk to government bodies (or big orgs) if you're
> from
> > an
> > > > >> official body.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And who knows, setting it up might be kick up the arse for some of
> > us!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Since 

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Cycling infrastructure in Ireland

[Donal Hunt]

I'm very much aware of the sad state of affairs. Took me six months to get
signage on one sign changed earlier this year (and I strongly suspect it
only happened because I pestered the council enough). :/

The best action you can take is to get involved with the local campaigns
(Dublin Cycling Campaign is very active) and submit observations to public
consultations / planning requests either directly or through the campaigns.
Patience is slowly wearing out with many of the campaign groups due to the
tiny amounts of money being invested to get results like you mention.
Direct action groups like "I bike Dublin" are having an impact with getting
the message across in a meaningful way. I've also been trying to educate
cycling policy makers and planners to take advantage of data sets such as
Strava's metro heatmaps which show where cyclists are frequenting (and
avoiding). It's very slow. :(

I'm hoping openstreetmap will be useful in gathering data that can
highlight the sorry state of things (e.g. our longest continuous
non-yielding cycle track is 1km; we have XXX km of shared bus/cycle lanes
and XX km of dedicated cycle tracks). I'm a very strong believer that
people armed with data are a force to be reckoned with.

d.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Colm Donoghue <colm.donog...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was probably overly cynical in my first reply, but there's a lot of
> really well built cycle lanes in D15 from the n2 towards Tyrrelstown where
> you can only turn left at roundabouts. There's a wall preventing leaving
> the cycle track...
> These are km long tracks...
>
> Then in my town, there's tracks that loose priority at every single
> junction
>
> And between Swords and Dublin airport, there's a two way cycle track,
> that's a foot wide...
>
> A schedule of cycle tracks would be good. It might allow some
> accountability of the state of them also, to get Local Auth say if they
> comply with dmurs or not
> Colm
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, 20:27 Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If we get a good enough data set that would surely be an option (and
> > certainly partly what motivates me)... Getting an accurate dataset (e.g.
> > schedule of cycle facilities similar to what exists for roads) would be a
> > good start...
> >
> > d.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Colm Donoghue <colm.donog...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are you going to have a tag for badly designed cycle tracks, and
> another
> > > for dangerous/very poor state of repair cycle tracks?
> > >
> > > Colm
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, 17:20 Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > I've created a new page (
> > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Cycling)
> > > > to track efforts around cycling infrastructure in Ireland. I intend
> to
> > > > focus energy on documenting relevant information / project status
> > around
> > > > various cycle infrastructure mapping efforts.
> > > >
> > > > I intend to try and promote data gathering with the local cycling
> > > > campaigns, Cycling Ireland (for club cyclists) and Fáilte Ireland for
> > > > tourism purposes.
> > > >
> > > > Contributions welcome! Will share updates if anything positive comes
> of
> > > it.
> > > >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Cycling infrastructure in Ireland

[Donal Hunt]

If we get a good enough data set that would surely be an option (and
certainly partly what motivates me)... Getting an accurate dataset (e.g.
schedule of cycle facilities similar to what exists for roads) would be a
good start...

d.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Colm Donoghue <colm.donog...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Are you going to have a tag for badly designed cycle tracks, and another
> for dangerous/very poor state of repair cycle tracks?
>
> Colm
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, 17:20 Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I've created a new page (
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Cycling)
> > to track efforts around cycling infrastructure in Ireland. I intend to
> > focus energy on documenting relevant information / project status around
> > various cycle infrastructure mapping efforts.
> >
> > I intend to try and promote data gathering with the local cycling
> > campaigns, Cycling Ireland (for club cyclists) and Fáilte Ireland for
> > tourism purposes.
> >
> > Contributions welcome! Will share updates if anything positive comes of
> it.
> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] Cycling infrastructure in Ireland

[Donal Hunt]

Hi all!

I've created a new page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Cycling)
to track efforts around cycling infrastructure in Ireland. I intend to
focus energy on documenting relevant information / project status around
various cycle infrastructure mapping efforts.

I intend to try and promote data gathering with the local cycling
campaigns, Cycling Ireland (for club cyclists) and Fáilte Ireland for
tourism purposes.

Contributions welcome! Will share updates if anything positive comes of it.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Using greater than & less than values in Overpass-euro

[Donal Hunt]

Does this answer your query?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41854953/overpass-api-comparison-operators

I also read something about using min and max queries which might be
relevant.

D. (Mostly a newbie)

On 13 Jul 2017 08:39, "Brian Hollinshead"  wrote:

> I have a query
>
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qm4
>
> which searches where population equals an exact figure which works fine.
>
> I would like to be able to select a range. [population >3999 and <5000]
>
> I have tried [population<5000] and [population<=5000] to no avail.
>
> Your help would be much appreciated
>
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