Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed bot edit: fixing bunch of typos in tags
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 18:15 Mateusz Konieczny via talk, > wrote: > I propose to fix some obvious typos in tag values. > > Full list of values is at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account/fix_many_obvious_typos#What > material=woodc -> material=wood This could plausibly be a typo for "wooocrete": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/woodcrete > material=metal+ -> material=metal This could mean "metal and something else" > healthcare=occupational_therapist -> healthcare=occupational_therapist No change? No other issues; thank you for doing this tedious cleanup work. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing https://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Rebuilding FourSquare for ActivityPub using OpenStreetMap
This will no doubt be of interest to some of you; and perhaps someone can suggest improvements to the OverPass query described: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/01/rebuilding-foursquare-for-activitypub-using-openstreetmap/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically remove obvious descriptive names for viewpoints (obvious cases only, not all suspect objects)
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 12:35, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > invalid name tag that repeats object type, and it is obvious enough that can > be fixed remotely. > "Viewpoint, entry 5 euro" > "Viewpoint, no wheelchair access". Such names should not be removed until the additional data has been transferred to a more suitable tag. > Note that this relies on assumption that object tagged like > > - tourism=viewpoint > - name=Viewpoint > > is always case of misusing name tag. I dispute that that is always the case. > - tourism=viewpoint > - fee=yes > - name=VIEWPOINT > > would be edited. Again, not 100% reliable. Overall I think this would be best made into some sort of gamified challenge, like MapRoulette, where each case can be reviewed individually. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed bot edit: automatic replacement of surface values where it is safe
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 22:42, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > > I proposed some time ago to fix some surface values. I support this in general, but the following may be worthy of further consideration: > surface = U → surface = unpaved Are we sure this is what is meant? > surface = unhewn_cobblestones → surface = unhewn_cobblestone How is this different from surface = cobblestone ? > surface = a → surface = asphalt > surface = AS → surface = asphalt > surface = ea → surface = earth Are we sure these are what is meant? > surface = unpavedNo → surface = unpaved Are we sure that this does not mean "not unpaved", i.e. "paved" > there are also many low-use values with one or two or three extra bogus > characters, for example > surface = artificial_turf22 → surface = artificial_turf > > would be also OK to migrate them without listing them > for review here and just add them to replace list later? OK by me. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] West Midlands Fire Service using OSM data without attribution
West Midlands Fire Service announced a new "Risk Explorer" web service [1] today; it is clearly based on OSM map data, but I can see no attribution, I have pointed this requirement out to them on Twitter [2] and await their response. The site was built by a company called "Shoothill" [3]. [1] https://riskexplorer.wmfs.net/map [2] https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1719715267003974084 [3] https://shoothill.com/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM display settings
It was "wireframe view". Now fixed. On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 at 14:52, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > My laptop is dying, and I've borrowed another, but not yet got used to it. > > I have JOSM installed and working, but, while trying to select aerial > imagery. my hand skipped across the trackpad and I changed a setting, > without seeing which. > > It now looks like this: > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JOSM_-_Edinburgh.jpg > > For example, the highlighted node is tagged as a historic monument and > has a Fixme tag; previously it had icons indicating those tags. > > What have I done, and more importantly, how do I undo it? > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] JOSM display settings
My laptop is dying, and I've borrowed another, but not yet got used to it. I have JOSM installed and working, but, while trying to select aerial imagery. my hand skipped across the trackpad and I changed a setting, without seeing which. It now looks like this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JOSM_-_Edinburgh.jpg For example, the highlighted node is tagged as a historic monument and has a Fixme tag; previously it had icons indicating those tags. What have I done, and more importantly, how do I undo it? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa Mercia maps offiline
https://www.mappa-mercia.org/maps/cycle-map is giving a 403 error https://www.mappa-mercia.org/maps/public-transport-map ditto https://www.mappa-mercia.org/maps/west-midlands-heritage-map has no content Are they working for anyone else? Is this a known issue? As befits a hot, sunny day, the gritting map is fine ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Cosford aircraft
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 at 17:28, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > If anyone can identify aircraft from slightly blurry photos then > > this one > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6249198917 > > is visible in > > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=734140723946844 > That's the Vulcan: > >https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/collections/avro-vulcan-b2-cosford/ My bad; from aerial imagery, no it isn't. Might be one of their Hawker Hunters. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Cosford aircraft
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 at 14:27, Ed Loach wrote: > > Andy asked: > > static, outdoor aircraft at the RAF Museum at Cosford > > Does anyone have the details, please? > > If anyone can identify aircraft from slightly blurry photos then > this one > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6249198917 > is visible in > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=734140723946844 Thank you. That's the Vulcan: https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/collections/avro-vulcan-b2-cosford/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Cosford aircraft
We have several of the static, outdoor aircraft at the RAF Museum at Cosford mapped as "historic=aircraft" nodes, but with no tags giving their type, registration, etc. An example is: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6249198920 with others close by. Does anyone have the details, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] New Birmingham canal bridge opens to the public
On Mon, 24 Jul 2023 at 16:42, Nathan Case wrote: > it seems that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245524100 is the "Eyre > Street Basin bridge". Makes sense. > However, I think we'd need a licence-compatible source. The bridge should have a name-plate, if anyone's passing. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[OSM-talk] Wikimania 2023: Singapore and online
Wikimania, the annual conference of the Wikimedia movement, takes place in Singapore and online from 16-19 August. Registration is now open: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/2023:Registration and several sessions on maps are planned. Are any OSM foks going? Or are any of the local OSM community not going, but interested in meeting up during or after the conference? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM
On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 08:42, Tom Brennan wrote: > what's the reason for using relations? Or > is it specifically for the search that you mentioned? A relation can also be linked 1:1 with an item for the waterway in Wikidata, and with the wider web of linked data. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 13:06, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > Apr 20, 2023, 21:54 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > shop = vaping → shop = e-cigarette> shop = vape_store → shop = e-cigarette > "vape" seems to be the more widely-used term, in the UK. > > but it is the same shop type, right? There is clearly a high degree of overlap. I don't use either, so cannot say whether there is synonymy, nor which, if any, might be a subset of the other. > Note that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=e-cigarette is > established > value - do you think it is bad/misleading/unclear enough that we should have > both > shop = vape and shop = e-cigarette despite them being synonymous? I don't believe that the wiki is regarded by the community as authoritative. Do you have evidence that it is? Or that the particular page which you cie is the result of a community consensus? [other responses acknowledged] -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > shop = chandler → shop = ship_chandler In the UK at least, chandlers are more likely to cater for boats than ships. > shop = vaping → shop = e-cigarette> shop = vape_store → shop = e-cigarette "vape" seems to be the more widely-used term, in the UK. > shop = collectibles → shop = collector I have yet to see a shop that sells collectors; "collectibles" seems fine > shop = unattended → shop = vacant "Unattended" is not "vacant"; it can mean a place where one pays in an "honesty box", or uses vending machines. > shop = for_rent → shop = vacant Or is this a shop where one rents equipment? Or an apartment? > shop = beauty33 → shop = beauty Is "Beauty33" a name or brand? > shop = herbs → shop = herbalist Not necessarily the same; a herbalist does not sell cooking herbs. [No view on other values] -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 19:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > Please comment if any of proposed replacements are dubious in any way and > proposed migration of shop=* values: These, and the durface= values, are motsly good changes; thank you. But consider: > shop = laundromat → shop = laundry Not the same, as others have noted. > shop = Bag_shop → shop = bag Is this a shop that sells bags, or "things by the bagfull"? > shop = watch → shop = watches This could plausibly mean watch as in "monitor" - in other words "please watch for developments". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] "Stadium" map roulette challenge causing issues
I have found several instances, on different continents, such as hris example (since fixed): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/521815946/history where the tag "wikidata=Staduum" has been added to an object by someone apparently using this Map Roulette challenge: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/36396 I am unable to determine why, or whether the challenge is in some way misconfigured, but with over 5000 objects awaiting attention there, the potential for damage is significant. Is a bulk revert possible? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Extending the 'geo:' uri scheme: Adding parameter 'osmid'
On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 17:57, Sören Reinecke wrote: > It came into my mind to get IETF to standardize a parameter explicitly > linking to > osm objects with their corresponding type and id. 1) Do we have any indication that IETF would be willing to "standardize a parameter" for an ID scheme used by one data provider (rather than something generic and transferable; like coordinates)? 2) There is already a standard for referring to osm objects with their corresponding type and id; for example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22814079 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] JOSM plugin to increment or decrement house numbers
A local street has houses numbered even on one side, odd on the other. One number has been missed from the middle of the even side, so every number from that point to the end of the road needs to be increased by 2. Is there a JOSM plugin that will do this? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] StateOTMap 2015 video is "private"
I've just been told that the video of my 2015 SotM talk: https://2015.stateofthemap.us/wikidata-for-mappers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6pnDQcrtwQ will not play, being listed as "Private". Does anyone know why, and who can unlock it? Other talks, such as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8PVx0oudnA seem fine. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] Links in Australian_Data_Sources - Western Australia
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 06:50, Bob Cameron wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Sources > > Just noticed that some of the Main Roads links for WA are coming up 404. Wikipedia a a bot which updates dead links to point to the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine If there is interest I could ask its operator to run it on the OSM wiki also. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge
On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 at 10:18, Marc_marc wrote: > > > The reverting changeset > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549 > highway=construction for a very damaged bridge is very strange, > it look like tagging for the render I'm not in the least precious about how it is tagged, so long as the fact that a structure still bridges the river, but is impassable to pedestrians, is recorded. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 07:46, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >>>> Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > >>>>> Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. > >>>> the bridge > >>> If I knew how to revert the edit I would do so; I do not. Can someone > >>> do the revert, please? > Done Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge
On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 08:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > >>> Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. > >> the bridge > > If I knew how to revert the edit I would do so; I do not. Can someone > > do the revert, please? > > The news imagery suggests it is no longer usable. > > There have been 6 edits of it by locals after its collapse, well I > recognize some of them as locals. The deletion does not appear to be by a local. > News reports with imagery suggesting it is not a usable bridge .. > > https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/morbi-bridge-collapse-generations-wiped-out-in-disaster/article66083435.ece > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-63445154 Indeed so - but there is still structure bridging the river, as I said in my original post. > Andy .. what reports do you have suggesting that it is now usable? None. Did you read my original post? I am not asking for it to be mapped as usable. I wrote "The way had been marked as impassable. Can someone restore that, please?" -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge
On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 13:48, Marc_marc wrote: > > Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > > Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. > the bridge [...] > is currently deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549/history Indeed; that was my point. If I knew how to revert the edit I would do so; I do not. Can someone do the revert, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge
Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. This seems to be in error, as - despite the recent tragic collapse - the superstructure is largely still in place, and still spans the river, according to press coverage The way had been marked as impassable. Can someone restore that, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] New turn restrictions into and out of City Hospital, Birmingham
I'm not sure how to map this. It is no longer possible to turn right into or out of City Hospital, Birmingham's main entrance. A central reservation has been created, along the centre line of Dudley Road, each side of that entrance. There is a "No U-turn" restriction at each end of that reservation. Access arrangements at the Aberdeen Street entrance: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1605839577 have also changed, and it is now available to the public, and no longer one-way. I think I have mapped that correctly. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Langley Brook
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 12:36, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > Thank you; that's very helpful. Unfortunately, on further examination, that map has this (other) waterway, which we have as Churchill Brook, labelled as Langley brook: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/167796053#map=17/52.56693/-1.77186 and I am reminded that we have two ways, meeting at this node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2163354438 both labelled Churchill Brook. I think I now need to go and lie in a darkened room... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing https://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Langley Brook
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 12:36, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > Thank you; that's very helpful. Though it does beg the question of what happens to the water in the south-flowing stream represented by this way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4001187 which appears as though it may be connected - and, indeed, what is its source, which may be related to this pool: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/241256722 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Langley Brook
Thank you; that's very helpful. As it passes through "Langely Pool", I've assumed it is all known as Langley Brook. Elsewhere on the brook, the alignment of: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/485634449 and the immediate section downstream from there seems dubious; the former is shown as a culvert, but the latter not, yet it is not visible on any of the available aerial photography. On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 09:54, Andy Robinson wrote: > > Andy, > > You can find it on https://maps.nls.uk/view/101584522 where there is a > "rises" note on the map. > > Cheers > Andy > > -Original Message- > From: Andy Mabbett > Sent: 24 October 2022 20:33 > To: Mappa Mercia mailing list > Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Langley Brook > > I'm trying to determine the western extent and source of Langley Brook, > which runs eastwards to join the Tame at RSPB Middleton Lakes. > > I have created this relation: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14727241 > > and it seems this unnamed way: > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/123146313#map=15/52.5704/-1.7727 > > and those linking the two might be the same, but there are intermediate > pools. Can anyone advise, please? > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Langley Brook
I'm trying to determine the western extent and source of Langley Brook, which runs eastwards to join the Tame at RSPB Middleton Lakes. I have created this relation: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14727241 and it seems this unnamed way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/123146313#map=15/52.5704/-1.7727 and those linking the two might be the same, but there are intermediate pools. Can anyone advise, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 14:51, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 30.09.22 14:32, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > As you are well aware, I have been strongly and consistently against > > this asinine idea since it was first proposed; I don't have the energy > > to repeat myself in every new forum where you repeat it. > > Just because "asinine" is a fancy word it is no less insulting. Please > remain civil even if people don't share your Wikidata enthusiasm. > Throwing around a few insults may require less energy than making an > argument but it doesn't help. If it's an insult then I insulted an idea, not a person. Your institution that I was uncivil is false (and indeed is itself uncivil); as is your insinuation that I made no argument. I stand by what I wrote. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 13:46, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > Sep 30, 2022, 14:32 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > > On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 13:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > > It was proposed on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#Remove_wikidata_parameters_from_infoboxes > and noone was against, so I have run it > > > As you are well aware, I have been strongly and consistently against > this asinine idea since it was first proposed; I don't have the energy > to repeat myself in every new forum where you repeat it. > > I am still waiting for reply to > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-April/064293.html > (just being against without stating reason is not worth much) I am not "against without stating reason ". The very email to which you link quotes me saying: "As I explicitly noted earlier in /this/ discussion: 'Your proposal remains flawed for reasons that have been explained to you previously and at length ... Repeatedly bludgeoning us to [..] reiterate objections does not resolve any of its flaws'. The arguments have been made, and ignored by the proponent, more than once already; they too are a matter of public record." and even if that were the cae, it does not constitute "noone was against". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 13:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > It was proposed on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#Remove_wikidata_parameters_from_infoboxes > and noone was against, so I have run it As you are well aware, I have been strongly and consistently against this asinine idea since it was first proposed; I don't have the energy to repeat myself in every new forum where you repeat it. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] River Tame relation broken
Please ignore this; my error. On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 17:11, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > Our relation: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7928300/ > > shows the Tame rising near Halesowen (it actually has its source at Oldbury ). > > Judging from the history, it doesn't seem to be a recent phenomenon, > and I assume someone acting in good faith has added one of its > tributaries > > Viewing it in JOSM, I'm not sure how to determine which ways should be > removed/ moved to a different relation. > > Please can someone fix it, or better still show me how to? > > I think it would be easier if there was a graphical representation of > the relation, and I could just click on ways to add or remove them. Do > we have a tool that does that? > > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] River Tame relation broken
Our relation: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7928300/ shows the Tame rising near Halesowen (it actually has its source at Oldbury ). Judging from the history, it doesn't seem to be a recent phenomenon, and I assume someone acting in good faith has added one of its tributaries Viewing it in JOSM, I'm not sure how to determine which ways should be removed/ moved to a different relation. Please can someone fix it, or better still show me how to? I think it would be easier if there was a graphical representation of the relation, and I could just click on ways to add or remove them. Do we have a tool that does that? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Node vs. relation for railway station
I'm not sure why we need (for example) this node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/21257480 for Perry Barr railway station, when we have a relation: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6892614 Can someone explain the reason; or can we agree to move tags from the node to the relation? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 20:55, Rob Nickerson wrote: > If you can explain the restriction again, I'll see what tags I can suggest. I can try to > capture any time based rules too. Thank you. The sign reads: * "Pedestrian and cycle zone * [Image: no motor vehicles] * "Except [Image: Blue Badge] buses, taxis and for loading at any time" * "and authorised vehicles 7pm-6am". It can be seen here: https://goo.gl/maps/GTHTDxVeyugNZeKp7 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 19:44, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > No it's the other way round. More specific tags override the general tags. > > So in the example > > access=destination > motor_vehicle=no > > The first tag marks all transport modes (including foot) as destination only, > and motor_vehicle then changes this for that specific subset of > transportation modes to "no". In effect this is saying motorised vehicles are > not allowed, while non motorised vehicles, (horses) and pedestrians are only > allowed when going to their destination. Thank you. In that case, we still have an issue, because some motor vehicles are allowed (and pedestrians may traverse these roads for any purpose). I'm not clear how this should be tagged. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing https://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 09:33, Brian Prangle wrote: > > I've added the 7 disabled spaces round the corner on Albert Street and New > Meeting > Street. Thank you, but I think your edit may have failed to save (or someone has since deleted them). I can find no such objects (I can see you node in High Street). > I've used access=destination I'm still confused, as we now have roads with: access=destination motor_vehicle=no Is there an implicit priority whereby the former overrides the latter? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing https://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 22:09, Ryan Underwood wrote: > The section between Carrs Lane and Dale End is shut to all traffic except > buses and, I imagine, black cabs. Vehicles used[*] by Blue Badge holders may also use this section; indeed, it is their only option once they have traversed Carrs Lane. Note that the restriction sign also permits "loading at any time", and "authorised vehicles 7pm-6am". [*] This includes vehicles which have already dropped off, or are about to pick up, Blue Badge holders, on the road(s) concerned. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
I was there this morning. There are spaces for Blue Badge holders on High Street, but they are currently unusable due to road works (and have been - and will be - for some time, by the look of it). I've tweeted a picture, here: https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1508829197933948930 There are alternative (but few) spaces for blue badge holders in Dale End, Albert Street and New Meeting Street. To access the spaces in High Street, exempted (i.e." blue badge") vehicles CANNOT enter Moor Street Queensway from The Priory Queensway. They must go via Dale End, down (i.e. eastbound along) Albert Street, right onto MSQ then right into Carrs Lane. Egress from High Street is via Dale End. The "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue Badge [and other exceptions]" sign on MSQ is still in situ. How should the permitted route be tagged? What about tagging the parking spaces? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 14:05, Brian Prangle wrote: > > Hi Andy > > Don't recall seeing any BB spaces there but the whole place is a mess with the tram roadworks and the data is probably a mess too -I gave up on trying to fix it after so many people editing trying to interpret the bus gates. When are you going in? Can't guarantee when I'll be in the city next > > Regards > > Brian > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 19:50, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> I'm planning a trip by car to central Birmingham for a relative who >> has restricted mobility, and so has a blue badge. >> >> Birmingham CIty Council say there are three spaces for BB holders on >> the stretch of High Street between Carrs Lane and Dale End, opposite >> Boots. >> >> OSM has that length of road as "motor_vehicle=no"; it has the same on >> Carrs Lane; and on the stretch of Moor Street Queensway after Albert >> Street, by which one would approach Carrs Lane from the north (Aston >> University) end. The southern end of Dale End (which one would have to >> use to leave the area; presuming Lower Bull Street is still closed) is >> marked "acccess=destination". >> >> Are these incorrect? >> >> GSV shows a "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue badge [and other >> exceptions]" sign on MSQ, after Albert Street when coming from the >> north, but in images dated March 2021; and the same on Carrs Lane, >> from September 2020. Are they still there? >> >> Can Carrs Lane be approached via MSQ from Digbeth? >> >> I can do a survey during the trip, but this is chicken-and-egg! >> >> -- >> Andy Mabbett >> @pigsonthewing >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >> >> ___ >> Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list >> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
I'm planning a trip by car to central Birmingham for a relative who has restricted mobility, and so has a blue badge. Birmingham CIty Council say there are three spaces for BB holders on the stretch of High Street between Carrs Lane and Dale End, opposite Boots. OSM has that length of road as "motor_vehicle=no"; it has the same on Carrs Lane; and on the stretch of Moor Street Queensway after Albert Street, by which one would approach Carrs Lane from the north (Aston University) end. The southern end of Dale End (which one would have to use to leave the area; presuming Lower Bull Street is still closed) is marked "acccess=destination". Are these incorrect? GSV shows a "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue badge [and other exceptions]" sign on MSQ, after Albert Street when coming from the north, but in images dated March 2021; and the same on Carrs Lane, from September 2020. Are they still there? Can Carrs Lane be approached via MSQ from Digbeth? I can do a survey during the trip, but this is chicken-and-egg! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Tipton Cemetery: Memorial to the victims of the 1922 "Tipton Catastrophe"
I wrote a Wikipedia article about the Tipton Catastrophe, a factory explosion in which 19 teenage girls, exploited in an unsafe factory, were killed - one hundred years ago today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipton_Catastrophe Can anyone please provide me with coordinates of the memorial at Tipton Cemetery? Or better still upload images of it to Wikimedia Commons? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Grit bin locations
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 13:06, Ryan Underwood wrote: > I've surveyed some of the grit bin locations in my local area, and they appear > to be accurate and up to date, with some only slightly off in terms of > coordinates. A couple of my local grit bins change from one side of the road to the other every few years. Originally this was because they were taken away every spring and returned the following autumn; more recently they are left in situ all year round, but no doubt occasionally replaced due to damage or age. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] UPRNs for locally listed buildings in Birmingham
My recent FoI request to Birmingham City Council has obtained a list of all Locally Listed Buildings in Birmingham, with coordinates, and - in many cases - UPRNs. [The list provided on BCCs website does not include coordinates or UPRNs] The officer responding said: "UPRNs are also included where available... Some Listed structures do not have UPRNs to address them, additionally some LLBs may include more than one UPRN I have only included the primary one." The request, response, and data may be viewed at: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/811093 The response was provided just five days after my request. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Witton Brook, Birmingham
I'm looking for what remains of Witton Brook, a tributary of the Tame: https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/witton-brook-witton-34409 Is it this orphaned waterway? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/134664157 And this, and its downstream ways? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8600234 And one of the waterways whose confluence is this node? If so, what is the other? https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/61106965 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] The Two Towers (at Bentley)
How should we tag these two towers, that seem to exist primarily or only for advertising purposes, at Boundary Mill, Bentley, Walsall? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/367659835 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Advertising_pillar,_Boundary_Mill,_Walsall_-_2021-11-12_-_Andy_Mabbett_-_01.jpg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/367659836 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Advertising_pillar,_Boundary_Mill,_Walsall_-_2021-11-12_-_Andy_Mabbett_-_02.jpg -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Undeletion needed
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 16:39, Alan Mackie wrote: > If it's that recent then finding the changeset will probably be easiest > through osmcha.org filtered by your username and a rough bounding box. > JOSM's reverter plugin That combination worked; thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Undeletion needed
Mea culpa: a couple of weeks or so ago, I deleted a building (four terraced houses) at Perry Barr, around 52.515343, -1.900919, thinking it had been demolished; but I misremembered what I had seen as drove past and the building (unlike those to its north and west sides) is extant Can someone kindly talk me through how to find and revert the edit? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: TfWM bike hire
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 00:05, Ryan Underwood wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:17 PM Brian Prangle wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 at 19:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> >>> TfWM 's "Boris Bike" scheme has launched: >>> Local agreement on how we are going to tag these stations would be good. >> Just copy the tags from the same scheme in London? > Something similar to how the Brompton Bike Hire stations are tagged, maybe? I'm sorry I wasn't clearer; I was thinking of what we should call them. Copying the name from other schemes won't help ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Cul-de-sac with turning circle
I've been reviewing the mapping of some local roads, and would be grateful for advice as to whether this edit is correct: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/97112651#map=18/52.54693/-1.89053 In it, I changed a cul-de-sac with a loop of road at the end into a straight line with the end node tagged as a turning circle - please compare with ESRI or a similar aerial photo. My reasoning is that it is not possible to drive a car up the road and return, without at some point engaging reverse. If there is consensus that my change is correct, I will do the same for other cases in the vicinity. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 12:50, Colin Smale wrote: > Royal Mail say that a house number must be numeric, and anything else > (like Rose Cottage, 7A, 3-7, 11/13 etc) should go in the house name field. So in a row of three adjacent, identical houses, known as 11, 11A, and 15, two have numbers and one has a name? That's not logical. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[OSM-talk] Making GPS tracks in Android
Father Christmas came early this year, and has delivered to me a smart new Android phone, whose GPS is much better than on my old one. I want to use it to trace some tracks on a local nature reserve. What app(s) do you recommend for this? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 20:57, ael via Talk-GB wrote: > I would regard this as vandalism if it is removing surveyed real stiles > to suit an ideal world where they are not permitted on bridleways. I favour the definitions used on the English Wikipedia, which make it clear that vandalism is deliberate harm, and that any well-intentioned edit, even if incorrect, is not vandalism, because: If an editor treats situations which are not clearly vandalism as such, it may harm the encyclopedia by alienating or driving away potential editors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism#What_is_not_vandalism -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] British Waterways
I just updated a local canal feeder reservoir, which was tagged in OSM as operator=British Waterways. The value should of course now be "Canal & River Trust". Should we have an automated edit to update all instances of "British Waterways"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] River Lugg
Terrible news from Herefordshire: https://www.ledburyreporter.co.uk/news/18920990.environment-agency-launch-probe-river-lugg-destruction/ https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/news/horror-destruction-nationally-important-uk-river about illegal reprofiling of a mile-long stretch of the Lugg. But we probably still need to map the changes. Do we have anyone local? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bourn Brook/ River Tame near Woodgate Country Park
I've been doing some more cleaning up of our data on local waterways. This node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/304057596 purports to be the source of both an underground River Tame and the Bourn Brook; that seems implausible. I see that the stretch of the Tame from there already has a *nine year old* note: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/116401839#map=18/52.45030/-2.00592 Tom -what's the evidence for this - not here in OS StreetView and seems to be a duplicate This stream: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/676764236#map=19/52.44945/-2.00666 is unnamed in OSM, but joins what purports to be the Bourn Brook - is it in fact the Bourn itself? Does it have some other name? This length of the Bourn: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27686364#map=15/52.4470/-1.9849 is shown as layer=-1, but not as being culverted or in a tunnel. Can anyone advise? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 21:50, Michal Migurski wrote: > I am speaking here as an individual and not on behalf of Facebook I'd have no problem with Facebook, or any other commercial organisation, putting up a candidate for a seat on the board; but I am having trouble seeing how the above statement can align with the following: > FB believes its maps comply... > My candidacy for the board is explicitly driven by a desire to see commercial > and organizational use of OSM better represented in the OSMF > in general it’s much more likely that FB and other companies’ need ... As a > board member I would work ... to make sure all these overlapping needs > and desires lead to an OSM that’s stronger together. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Nikkai "BT1.5SR" GPS
I recently found my old Nikkai "BT1.5SR" GPS dongle, but not the installation disc that came with it. Does anyone have the drivers, or know where I can obtain them, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Thimblemill Brook, Warley
I'm trying to make sense of the stream or sreams listed below. This one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/171647724 is labelled Thimblemill Brook, and runs westwards to the River Tame; but a few yards away, this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/171553553 is unnamed, but joins: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/171553560 which is also named "Thimblemill Brook" and runs eastwards to: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1825656536 where it disappears. Why? It then flows out of Thimblemill Pool as: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/171553562 before disappearing abruptly. Where does it go? Do we really have two thimblemill Brooks, rising a few yards apart and running in opposite directions? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[OSM-talk] Somaliland villages
I recently came across references [1] to two villages in Somaliland, * Adadlay, "95km east of Hargeisa" - Q101155687 [2] * Agabara "about 50km north of Hargeisa" - Q101200905 [3] and have created Wikidata items about them, as shown above. Nomintim returns Cadaadley for the former; are they the same? It finds nothing for Agabara . Can anyone suggest locations/ alternative names? [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-54794298 [2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q101155687 [3] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q101200905 [4] https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1404229794 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Find actively browsed undermapped regions and other gaps in OSM
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 15:04, James wrote: > > Just a little feedback, the "mobile" version looks like eye cancer I had a friend who died from eye cancer; I can assure you it does not. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Multi-lingual tagging in Wales
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 15:32, Edward Bainton wrote: > > I was going to suggest a cy-preferring tileserver, too. Possibly something > the Welsh govt would be willing to fund? Could it even be hosted at > cy.openstreetmap.org? It already exists, at: https://openstreetmap.cymru/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 10:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: > The change you plan to execute is of limited use. Yes, it ensures more > conformity in the data, but it will be a temporary fix (since new > "wrong" URLs can be added at any time). This seems like an argument for never fixing any error. > So what your edit does is, it "touches" lots of objects and adds no > meaningful information whatsoever. This statement is false, not least because in some cases "http://; is added, in others "https://;; each of those - and the difference between them - conveys meaningful information. > It creates load on the database The level of load is trivial. Have our database maintainers ever said that a load of such small magnitude is problematic? > There are many, many better ways to contribute to OSM than runnning a > useless automated conformity edit. Take a notebook or mobile editor, go > outside, check if the phone booths on OSM are still there on the ground, > add a few opening times, or even trees for that matter - a single hour > of such original work is more useful to OSM that what you are proposing > here. Denigrating another's contribution - a valid and valuable contribution - in this manner is antithetical to the spirit in which OSM activity is supposed to be conducted. > Remember: OSM is not an IT project. Of course it is. "Information technology (IT) is the use of computers to store, retrieve, transmit, and manipulate data or information." [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_technology -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] some of my inconsistent tagging - cure sought
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 21:06, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie wrote: > > For start note > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct > - but fixing your own edits falls under one of exceptions It says: Acceptable usage Correcting your own work. If you know that you made a systematic mistake then you may correct this systematically using an automated process. Do however be aware of the risk that your process changes data beyond the scope you intended. For cases such as the one currently under discussion, "Correcting your own work" should be changed to, say, "Correcting your own work (or that of another individual, at their express request)". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-GB] Brexit and OpenStreetMap
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 14:30, David Woolley wrote: > Of course, the map itself should not contain any personal data What do you mean by "the map itself"? Change sets and item histories contain user names, for example. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[OSM-talk] Fwd: [Maps-l] Public API for Wikimedia map tiles to be discontinued in 45 days
Foarwarding for interest; of course WMF tiles use OSM data: -- Forwarded message - From: Erica Litrenta Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 18:33 Subject: [Maps-l] Public API for Wikimedia map tiles to be discontinued in 45 days To: Today the Wikimedia Foundation is announcing the deprecation of the public API for Wikimedia map tiles. Around mid October the Foundation will end support for the Wikimedia Maps Service API [1]. This change affects people using Wikimedia maps on their own website or app. Maps on the Wikimedia sites, in Wikimedia-hosted tools and gadgets, and on maps.wikimedia.org won't be affected. This decision was made based on recent outage incidents, primarily due to spikes in third party usage, along with an analysis showing that more than a third of maps provided are to non-Wikimedia services (including many to for-profit organizations). After the most recent incident [2], the service was limited so that only cached maps tiles would be available. While this protected the servers, it made the service unpredictable and highlighted the unsustainability of our tile service. So, we have made the decision to discontinue the maps APIs for non-Wikimedia users. This change will allow our teams working on Maps to focus on the sustainability of the maps used within Wikimedia projects. You can follow the implementation of this change on Phabricator [3]. Best, Erica Litrenta [1] https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/ [2] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20200204-maps [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261424 -- Erica Litrenta Manager, Community Relations Specialists https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Elitre_(WMF) ___ Maps-l mailing list map...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/maps-l -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Blank Spots In China's Maps used To Investigate Xinjiang's Camps
No doubt of interest to some of you: "We Used Blank Spots In China's Maps To Investigate Xinjiang's Camps" https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alison_killing/satellite-images-investigation-xinjiang-detention-camps -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-Kosovo] FLOSSK Local Chapter Application
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 21:51, Mikel Maron wrote: > You may be aware that *FLOSSK* has applied to become an official Local > Chapter of the OpenStreetMap Foundation. As part of the application > process, we would like to ask you, *the local mapping community* how you > feel about this As someone who has visited Kosovo twice, to speak at FLOSSK events, and mapped while there, I support this application. I found FLOSSK to be a very efficient, forward looking organisation, and a strong and persuasive advocate of open content, hosted both on OSM and elsewhere. In our subsequent interactions, when I have had cause to request assistance remotely, I have found them to be both responsive and helpful. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-Kosovo mailing list Talk-Kosovo@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-kosovo
Re: [Talk-GB] Bude-Light in Trafalgar Square
Update: there are four; they have been identified and mapped; and details added to the Wikipedia article I mentioned. On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 12:22, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > Various sources refer to a replica Bude-Light [1] in Trafalgar Square, > London. however, a Google image search [2] finds pictures of lamps of > two different designs; one is on a narrow metal column [3], the other > a broad stone column [4]. > > We don't seem to have anything mapped, other than the two examples > given, which I have just added. > > How many Bude-Lights are there in Trafalgar Square? Where ''exactly'' > is it/are they? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bude-Light > > [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=Bude+Light+trafalgar+square=isch > > [3] example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2307121977 > > [4] example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7834612494 > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Bude-Light in Trafalgar Square
Various sources refer to a replica Bude-Light [1] in Trafalgar Square, London. however, a Google image search [2] finds pictures of lamps of two different designs; one is on a narrow metal column [3], the other a broad stone column [4]. We don't seem to have anything mapped, other than the two examples given, which I have just added. How many Bude-Lights are there in Trafalgar Square? Where ''exactly'' is it/are they? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bude-Light [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=Bude+Light+trafalgar+square=isch [3] example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2307121977 [4] example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7834612494 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Marton, Shropshire
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 00:44, Philip Barnes wrote: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.62023=-3.07049#map=18/52.62023/-3.07049 Wonderful; thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Marton, Shropshire
I've identified the postcode, SY21 8JY, and found a list of properties which share it: http://www.mycounciltax.org.uk/results?postcode=sy218jy It's very close to Welshpool. On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 19:48, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I'm trying to help a US friend toocate a building called "Bray's > Tenement", at Marton and, if possible, get a photo, for Wikipedia. > > Information is scant; but it's referred to here: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bray > > Can anyone help? It doesn't seem like we've mapped it, yet. > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Marton, Shropshire
I'm trying to help a US friend toocate a building called "Bray's Tenement", at Marton and, if possible, get a photo, for Wikipedia. Information is scant; but it's referred to here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bray Can anyone help? It doesn't seem like we've mapped it, yet. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 18:27, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: >> TOIDs > What is it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOID -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] UPRNs for Birmingham City Council buildings
UPRNs for Birmingham City Council land and buildings are available in this data set: https://data.birmingham.gov.uk/dataset/birmingham_city_council_property_data_2020 which is under OGL. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM
On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 19:05, Imre Samu wrote: > Wikidata is a graph database .. and there is a "known" scalability problem > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2019-June/013124.html That post discusses the SPARQL front end (the "Wikidata Query Service") specifically, and not Wikidata (a Wikibase instance) itself. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 11:58, Jez Nicholson wrote: >>> the Environment Agency flood risk website no longer >>> allows you to link directly to a property by UPRN > perhaps they were concerned that someone might poll the URL with every > available UPRN. If that were the case, I'm confident the government web team have the knowledge and wherewithal to apply rate limiting. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 09:41, Nick wrote: > On 01/08/2020 21:19, Mark Goodge wrote: > > I'm pretty certain this is deliberate, in order to stop people using > > their site as a way to look up addresses from a UPRN. And I suspect > > it's part of the same attempts by GeoPlace to deliberately minimise > > the utility of the Open UPRN database. > the current situation regarding openness leads > to speculation and as Mark so clearly states to "deliberately minimise > the utility of the Open UPRN database" - the risk is that this sort of > speculation leads to a lack of trust Do you have a plausible hypothesis to explain the removal of UPRNs from the flood warning pages, that also gives us a reason to trust the organisation that enacted that change? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Scheduled Monument
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 15:36, Tony OSM wrote: > I did know of that plug-in so i created my own > > > http://josm.openstreetmap.de/tagging-preset-1.0; > [...] > Where/ how do I need to save that, to use it in JOSM? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Another UPRN/ oddity
Here's a good one... I know the street at: https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.54633=-1.91892#map=19/52.54633/-1.91892 which is a side-loop off the Queslett Road dual carriageway (and, indeed is the original alignment of Queslett Road, before the dual carriageway was built), as being also "Queslett Road". OSM sensibly agrees with me, as does Royal Mail's address/postcode-finder. As did a friend who lived there, many years ago. OSM has it as most (but not the western extremity) of this way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/21585974 all of this one: (under the M6 motorway) https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400244529 and the southern segment only, of this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400244530#map=18/52.54747/-1.91762: The house nearest to my marker is 229 Queslett Road. Its UPRN is 100070487637; and the government flood warning service also says its address is Queslett Road: https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/long-term-flood-risk/risk?address=100070487637 But the USRN for the loop is given on "Find My Street" as 2708337, which is Booths Lane. I can't link to that, because... well, I don't know why. You can look it u by zooming and scrolling to it via: https://www.findmystreet.co.uk/ Google Maps also calls it Booths Lane. OSM says Booths Lane only starts with: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400244530#map=18/52.54747/-1.91762 and my local knowledge concurs. AFAICT, there are no street name plates on that stretch of road. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fingerposts
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, 17:00 Andy Mabbett, wrote: >> I've just come to map a fingerpost, never having had cause to add one >> previously. > Maybe: > tourism=information > information=guidepost > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Dguidepost Thank you. That seems to be it, though the page doesn't include the strings "fingerposts" or "finger posts". I've added it, and made some redirects. > I don't know a way of recording the directions they point save via > destination_sign relations I'll ask on the tagging list. Wish me luck ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fingerposts
I've just come to map a fingerpost, never having had cause to add one previously. To my surprise there is nothing on the wiki about how to do so, and I can find no JSOM preset. What do folk suggest? I would like to add the inscription, for each of the three fingers, with their comaps points, something like: inscription:NW=foo or, using degrees: inscription:315:=foo -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] (no subject)
OSM gets a mention: "As the Department for Transport begins its journey to review and redesign NaPTAN, we’re open sourcing our Bus Stop Checker tool to help build back greener." https://www.discoverpassenger.com/2020/07/13/passengers-bus-stop-checker-data-quality-tools-now-open-source/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Black Country Geopark
Do we have plans to map the new "Black Country Geopark": http://blackcountrygeopark.org.uk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Country_Geopark or to tag the various components as belonging to it? Is this suitable for a "relation"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] The curious case of USRN 20602512
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 at 12:39, Mark Goodge wrote: > For non-OS maps, copyright expires 70 years after the death of the last > surviving major contributor. The wiki has some information on this: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out-of-copyright_maps#UK See also: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_Kingdom#Unknown_author https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Anonymous_works#UK -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > I've set up a quick slippy map with the UPRN locations shown: > > https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/ (zoom in to level 16 to show the data) Naive question - can that be added as a layer in JOSM? If so, how? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN & USRN Tagging
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 15:31, Tony OSM wrote: > Question: Should uprn be applied to the building outline or to a node? Yes ;-) Some UPRNs have a 1:1 relation with a building or object (terraced, semi- or detached house, telephone box, etc.) Some do not (apartments; subdivided houses, etc.) I propose we tag accordingly. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > > I've set up a quick slippy map with the UPRN locations shown: > > https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/ (zoom in to level 16 to show the data) Thank you. > The UPRN dataset literally just contains the UPRN number and its > coordinates (both OS National Grid and WGS lat/lon). For England at least, UPRNs can be turned into web links, in the format: https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/long-term-flood-risk/risk?address=100023336956 which allows the address to be verified. We're planning to import UPRNs into Wikidata; here's the above value, for example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q169101#P8399 so for notable buildings at least, a reverse lookup will be possible, using the Wikidata API, or, for example: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/resolver.php?prop=P8399=100023336956 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] "Thank you NHS" sculpture in Lightwoods Park, Smethwick
Is anyone kindly able to supply coordinates for this artwork: https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/sandwell/2020/05/06/sculpture-in-tribute-nhs-frontline-workers-unveiled-at-sandwell-park/ please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 00:47, David Woolley wrote: > there used to be part of the North Yorkshire moors > that had "undefined" written over it on OS maps. Unlike Sovet military maps, that had all the details... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 23:45, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Great. How's this affect those of us who trust Facebook about as far as we > can throw it? Very little. Were you not aware that your contributions to OSM, and Mapilary, are already under an open licence, which allows anyone - including Facebook - to reuse them, even commercially? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] One-way in Wolverhampton
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 16:20, Brian Prangle wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 18:51, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> According to Midlands today just now, there's a new, temporary, >> one-way system and bike lanes in Wolverhampton, and the speed limit on >> the ring-road has changed from 40 to 30 mph. > Didn't catch this piece myself. Should still be on iPlayer > How long is temporary? If it's too short-term - not really worth it Not stated, but likely minimum is duration of "social distancing". > Is this a plan or has it been executed? Work may not be finished, but is well underway. > Really needs a site survey if it is to be done at all Government advice is still "stay at home as much as possible". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] One-way in Wolverhampton
According to Midlands today just now, there's a new, temporary, one-way system and bike lanes in Wolverhampton, and the speed limit on the ring-road has changed from 40 to 30 mph. This has also resulted in changes to bus stops/ routes. Is anyone able to map all this? Can we armchair map it, given the "current situation"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM: Java issue & font size
[replying again, this time to the list] On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 14:22, Taylor Smock wrote: > > On 5/4/20 5:00 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I recently upgraded Java on my Windows 10 laptop, to the latest version. > > > > I now have the tiny font and icon issue > There is a reason why bug reports _require_ the JOSM status report. From where? > if you do have the Mapillary plugin installed, you can see if the > following "fixes" the problem: > Go to JOSM Preferences -> Display Settings -> Mapillary and then uncheck > "Use JavaFX for better looking dialogs". I have Mapillary installed. I see no such option in the location described.. > Alternatively, you may have to update Java. Java 8 does not support > HiDPI displays well. (You state that you recently upgraded Java to the > latest version, but which latest version? The latest Java 8 version? The > latest Java 14 version? One of the Java 15 Early Access builds?) Version 8, (build 1.8.0_251-b08) - which is described by the Java update wizard as "the latest version". > I'm sorry I couldn't help You did - disabling the Mapillary plugin and restarting JOSM has resolved the issue. Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] JOSM: Java issue & font size
I recently upgraded Java on my Windows 10 laptop, to the latest version. I now have the tiny font and icon issue, that I previously resolved by following the steps outlines at: https://superuser.com/questions/652606/is-there-a-way-to-increase-the-default-font-size-for-java-gui-applications However, despite repeating those steps, i still have the tiny sizes, even after restarting the machine. JOSM is therefore virtually unusable. Can anyone advise, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 15:32, Peter Neale wrote: > > "Anyone?" Huh? (seems to be lacking the back-story!) Apologies; that was meant to be a quote of this email: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-April/024410.html in which I asked: How are we showing pharmacy references like those in: https://www.pharmacyregulation.org/registers/pharmacy/registrationnumber/1124246 https://www.nhs.uk/Services/pharmacies/Overview/DefaultView.aspx?id=9164 Do we have an exemplar for pharmacies (or several, by type: stand-alone shop; in GP practice/ medical centre; in supermarket; in Boots-style shop)? -- Andy Mabbett 'pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites
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