Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Computer advice

[Ken Guest]

I agree with all of this, josm, streetcomplete,  Vespucci etc.

speaking of which, what's the best way to quit out of Vespucci? there's got
to be something better than using the task manager to kill it !:-)

cheers

Ken

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 11:13, Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

>
>
>
> 18 Nov 2019, 22:42 by montg...@fuse.net:
>
> > What software would you recommend?  ArcGIS, QGIS, JOSM.  I could pick up
> > any.  I would appreciate your suggestions and links to any tutorials to
> > learn such software.
> >
> I recommend
> - iD for newbie friendly editing,
> - StreetComplete Android app for limited but very easy editing
> - JOSM for more advanced editing
> - Vespucci as a mobile version of JOSM on Android
>
> For Apple mobile devices there is GoMap!! that is described as working
> well.
>
> iD has a build-in tutorial, and more info at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM has some listed help and
> tutorials
>
> For StreetComplete see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/StreetComplete
> and
> and its quest list
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/StreetComplete/Quests
> Entire StreetComplete tutorial follows:
> It is intended to be used as one walks across some place,
> with quests appearing as markers on the map. Selecting marker
> allows one to answer a simple question.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Go_Map!! and
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci describes other editors.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editors has listing of editors
>
> I would not recommend QGIS and ArcGis as OSM editors.
> I never used them for such purpose and I strongly suspect that
> programs intended solely as an OSM editor will be far better
> and more people can help in case of a trouble.
>
> > What about touch screens vs 2-in-1 computers?  Any preferences for those
> of
> > you in the field?
> >
> I strongly prefer editing on StreetComplete and Vespucci over making notes
> and
> editing at home.
>
> I still use JOSM for more complex edits, tracing aerial imagery. And iD
> for quick
> fixes based on what I remember and spotted to be wrong.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] What are your 'must map' features?

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my wife has a bad back - so I map speedbumps and general quality and
surface of the road (asphalt good, cobblestones & potholes bad).
we've dogs - so I map public bins, even down to whether they're
specifically for dog excrement.
oh and osmand has this nice feature where it displays a speed limit sign if
you're approaching a set threshold of the speed limit, so I add that too.

after that, it's whatever I spot that's not showing up on strava/osmand or
streetcomplete for the most part, and preferably nothing that requires me
to walk the exact curve of eg a footpath - for small little dogs our two
can pull hard enough to make gps tracks look like something off a
lie-detector test!

so to that end, missing buildings, opening hours (though I'm less bothered
about this than I had been - shops close and businesses change so much..),
various
amenities, whether a road is lit and so forth.

k.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 08:21, Dave Corley  wrote:

> Great idea for a topic Colm!
>
> For me it depends. For example, when I'm sitting at the desk and mapping in
> JOSM, then my aim is completeness of physical features, so mapping
> everything I see on the imagery, then switching on the old scanned maps to
> see if there's anything historical I can add, and finally to add any
> applicable wikidata references.
>
> When I'm out and about, its bike infrastructure. Bike parking, shops,
> lanes, etc.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:29 AM Seán Lynch 
> wrote:
>
> > Litter
> >
> > Very accessible D:
> >
> >
> >
> https://openlittermap.com/maps/Ireland/County%20Cork/Cork/map/10-09-19/13-09-19/10
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Failte Ireland map using OSM

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re  https://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvg_tools/en/tools.html there is
attribution - but you need to click on a stylised "Info" button to view it.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 15:28, Brian Hollinshead 
wrote:

> Please to see recently that the Failte Ireland Sligo and Mayo visitor map
> both used OSM data and attributed it to OSM.
>
> Also saw the European Commission website  PHOTOVOLTAIC GEOGRAPHICAL
> INFORMATION SYSTEM:  https://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvg_tools/en/tools.html
> appears to use OSM but I did not see any attribution.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Teaching location - Ballyhalbert, Co. Down

[Ken Guest]

also most places around Kilshanny in Co. Clare...

to be fair it's a "one church, one pub & one school" sized village

all the best,

Ken

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 23:21, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If anyone is looking for an unmapped location so they can teach OSM to
> people, then Ballyhalbert, Co. Down has very little mapping done.
>
> Colm
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Email privacy

[Ken Guest]

yes

You may have noticed before you signed up to this open mailing list
the link to prior postings to the mailing list that does not require a
login to view them.

"""This list provides a forum for discussion those parts of
openstreetmap that are relevant to Ireland. It is not a substitute for
the t...@openstreetmap.org mailing list, but should provide more
localised information for those mapping in Ireland.

To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Talk-ie
Archives."""


caveat emptor jugulum...


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> Hi,
>
>
> I note that this mailing list is put on the web here: 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2015-July/001272.html
>
>
> This includes email addresses in the format person at example.com
>
>
> Is this appropriate?
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Lack of attribution to OSM by ESRI on Carlow maps

[Ken Guest]

This is fantastic work guys, well done.

On 10 August 2016 at 16:08, Brian Hollinshead  wrote:

> Carlow have had the attribution added and will be published in next day or
> two.
>
> I had asked if they had the text copyright free source for the Two
> Municipal Districts of Carlow and Bagnelstown. He has spoken with their GIS
> man and he has offered to send it to me in .shp format if we can import
> from that? He assure me they have themselves drawn it up from legislation
> and are keen to share it with us for us to include on our map.
>
> On 10 August 2016 at 08:41, Rory McCann  wrote:
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > On 09/08/16 19:39, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
> > > Is there someone somewhere in OSM that I should copy this to?
> >
> > The Licensing Working Group deals with other people who have infringed
> > on the OSM licence.
> >
> > https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group
> >
> > If you get no-where you can contact them at le...@osmfoundation.org
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
> >
> > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXqtqNAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2B5gH/2Pw0HUHV8m2/m+XBkiyNtjQ
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Operator=*

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On 2 July 2015 at 11:29, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've been tidying up a lot of these, using
 http://stat.latlon.org/ie/latest/tags-o.html and the likes.


 There are a handful of entries for First Trust and First Trust Bank
 which are **names**. The **operator** is AIB Group (UK) p.l.c.
 http://personal.firsttrustbank.co.uk/


AIB Group (UK)  - are you sure about that there now Ted? :-)

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Design competition for a new logo

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I agree. the osm_ie account is older and has a lot more
history/tweets/followers attached to it which is why I'd suggest keeping it
in use and ditching the _irl one.

On 2 July 2015 at 12:49, ke...@vool.ie ke...@vool.ie wrote:

 Site looks good, but why the second twitter account ?

 https://twitter.com/osm_irl

 https://twitter.com/osm_ie

 .k

 On 01/07/15 16:35, Dave Corley wrote:

 Hi all,

 So at the last meetup one thing everyone agreed was that we need to get
 moving on forming into a proper entity. Its something that has been spoken
 about off an on for the last 2 years and something which we have done
 little about.

 With that in mind, I spent most of the meetup working on the website
 www.openstreetmap.ie  and its starting to come together nicely.

 Cliff originally designed the logo on that site but pointed out in a
 recent
 email that it was something that was intended as a placeholder only and
 that a better logo is probably achievable.

 On that basis, using the recent JOSM  Hot logo competition parameters as
 a
 guideline, I'd like to announce a competition for a new logo for
 OpenStreetMap Ireland. This logo will primarily be used on the website and
 twitter, however in time and with the right resources there's no reason it
 wouldn't end up on stickers, t-shirts etc.

 On to the competition guidelines

 *Competition Rules*

 - The competition is open to anyone. Entrants can be an individual or
 team of people, even a design company
 - Entries must be in SVG format
 - Entry designs should be emailed to my atdavecor...@gmail.com  as
 attached SVG file(s) with a subject line of Logo entry from XYZ
 - Entries must be received before midnight GMT on 17th July 2015
 - Artists can make variations of other public domain artwork, although
 credit must be given where credit is due (and credit will be given
 when the
 winner is chosen)
 - Individuals are allowed to submit multiple entries, but you are
 encouraged to put work into one or two designs, and no more than five.
 - The winning design will be chosen by a community vote to be held
 during a one week period from 20th-26th July 2015
 - The winning design will be announced on 01st Aug 2015
 - Have fun!

 *Design Brief*

 *Conceptual Suggestions*

 - Remember, OpenStreetMap Ireland is a cross border group so steer
 clear
 of a design that is overtly Southern or Northern focused
 - The logo should use the current OpenStreetMap logo as a basis, but
 don't let that constrain your design, some out of the box surreal
 design
 might look awesome but then something super simple might look just as
 good
 so don't dismiss anything
 - You may find inspiration among other community designs at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos#Logo_design_competitions
 or the
 JOSM competition enterieshttps://
 josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/LogoContest


 *Where will the logo be used?*

 - The twitter account
 - We will also use the logo in the openstreetmap.ie homepage
 - Other electronic materials, proposal documents, presentation slides
 etc.
 - It may get used on printed materials: Letter headings, small
 stickers
 ('moo.com' size), large stickers (to go on boxes), T-shirts.
 - Any other creative uses by the community promoting OpenStreetMap in
 Ireland.

 *Design requirements*

 - *Vector -* The design must be available in a vector format. If you
 do
 not know how to create SVG, team up with someone who does.
 - *Copyright.* You must be willing and able to waive all rights to
 your
 design, handing over copyright ownership to OpenStreetMap Ireland,
 granting
 them a complete and irrevocable right to use, adapt, distribute the
 work.
 Of course, we intend to allow all use and re-use, but we may at some
 point
 need to register the design as a trademark. Let's do away with any
 awkward
 legal barriers up front. We also promise the winning artist(s) will be
 credited, including a link of their choice, on the openstreetmap.ie
 blog, but beyond that we do not guarantee any attribution, and
 certainly
 don't want to require it for downstream uses.
 - *Square -* We're looking for a logo which fits OK in a square area.
 This is to fit with the twitter requirement and also moo stickers.
 The logo
 itself doesn't need to be square shape, but should look OK occupying a
 square area. Text can be added in various configurations afterwards
 (e.g.
 to the right of the logo, to form a horizontal strip for the top of
 the
 openstreetmap.ie homepage)

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] mapping roads

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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:09 PM, da fo43 daf...@outlook.com wrote:

 Thanks for the replies so far, anyone else want to gibe an opinion? To
 address some of the points:
 snip

  Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 00:36:42 +
  From: Ken Guest kgu...@php.net
 ...
  Changing the tagging of roads based on an arbitrary reason such as an
  assigned L ref value where we presume there is a consistent scheme
 applied
  to it is mindless. Not all [county] councils assigned values based on the
  quality of the road, I know of at least one where the assigned value is
  based on the electoral division that the road is in.

 Would you agree that L1000-4999 are called local primary and L5000-
 are called local secondary by all county councils?


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] mapping roads

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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:27 PM, da fo43 daf...@outlook.com wrote:

 Hello All, First
  time posting on the mailing list but I've spoken individually to a
 number of you already. There can't be too many roads still to map in
 Ireland now so I guess the next step would be to improve the quality by
 filling in road numbers, names, etc. So I'm going to propose a few
 standards and see what people think. 1.   Map L roads 1000 to 4999
 (Local Primary) as 'Tertiary' and all other public roads as 'Unclassified'
 or 'Residential'.


Changing the tagging of roads based on an arbitrary reason such as an
assigned L ref value where we presume there is a consistent scheme applied
to it is mindless. Not all [county] councils assigned values based on the
quality of the road, I know of at least one where the assigned value is
based on the electoral division that the road is in.

Changing the tagging of anything based on the self-perceived notion that
you know better where in actual fact you might not, is little more than
mindless vandalism. Good intentions or not. This is why I hope you are
looking for advice first, here and now, before you change anything based on
your gut feel.


  I know people have a lot of differing views on this and will admit that
  some local primary roads seem to have less importance than Local
 Secondary and Local Tertiary roads but really I think it's better to go
 with what is designated rather than making judgement calls. On some
 parts of the map all roads are being set to 'Tertiary' so really I don't
  think the current system works. All other roads are mapped as per
 designation so I personally don't see why this should be any different.



Tag a road as how it is - if a road is primarily residential then tag it as
residential. If a road, no matter what the classification is according to
how you interpret an L-ref number, is only good enough for being
unclassified rather than, say tertiary, then tag it as that. If some
remnant of the old N7 is now little more than a cul-de-sac with a few
houses on it, tag it as such, not highway=primary :-)

Take a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway to see what I
mean, and remember:

  If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and smell's like a duck
then it's a duck.



  2.   Labeling roads L1000- with spaces.
  I see on some parts of the map that roads are being labelled with a
 space 'L 1234' instead of 'L1234'. I would be in favour of sticking to
 one standard, and going with the majority in not using a space.


Not having spaces is good, but please don't readjust the formatting
otherwise! Read on...


  3.   Labeling roads over L.
  I propose the labeling roads listed as L12341 as L1234-1 as
 this makes it easier to read and work out which branch of
 primary/secondary road it belongs to. I guess this might not suit
 everyone.


Ground Truth requires that you map it as you see it, not as how you wish
you saw it.
Please don't remove hyphens from where you think they don't belong and add
them to where you want them. There are enough standards without making up
more - or I suppose you could say people get confused easily enough without
adding reformatting into the mix.



 4.   Non public roads to be displayed as 'Service' or 'Track' only.
  It's not always obvious if some roads are private (especially some
 housing estates) but where it is known for certain they are private then
  I would be in favour of using a 'service' road rather than
 'residential' or 'unclassified'.



If the main use of a road is residential (e.g. down a cul-de-sac or in a
housing estate), then tag it as residential. Tracks are roads for
agricultural or forestry use. Private residential roads should be tagged
highway=residential;access=private not as highway=service which means
something completely different (and used to tag things such as alleys,
parking aisles and the likes).

Remember my duck sentence? :-)


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mapping of farmland

[Ken Guest]

Fair enough. I must've misinterpreted Does this data really belong in OSM?
 Fair enough the fields but the names?  :)

Ken


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Webmaster webmas...@killyfole.org.ukwrote:

 I don’t have an issue with it at all!  The original poster asked why the
 sudden interest in mapping farmland.  In which I was curious about finding
 out as well.  We have now established the reason.

 I asked about the general feeling within the Irish OSM community (people
 subscribed to this list) on giving field's a name.  It does not bother me
 either way.  We are getting field boundary data and those users are getting
 experience mapping, therefore can only be a good thing.  I do however
 support the use of another tag (as suggested by Tom) to record the names,
 but that's just personal feeling on the matter, I wont be losing any sleep
 over it!





 On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:52:34 -, Ken Guest kgu...@php.net wrote:

  I've added one or two names to fields myself and I don't see what the
 issue
 is that our chap in Killyfoyle has with field names being added.
 There are those of us that add reference numbers of streetlamps and post
 boxes to OSM, this isn't much different and with the general attitude of
 tag everything, we'll migrate it if a more specific repository for this
 info comes along this is surely not an issue.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Wicklow town street names added

[Ken Guest]

Sounds like great work Dan!

Ken


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Daniel Cussen d...@post.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I added all the street names in Wicklow town, and most of Rathnew
 using lots of local knowledge and a quick spin in the car. It's now
 more accurate than google maps and garmin.

 Thanks to whoever overlayed the roads in the past, It helped a lot.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Keypad-Mapper 3 released - highly efficient app for house number mapping

[Ken Guest]

I also get a message saying that I can't install it:


This app is incompatible with your O2 Samsung GT-S5363.


k.


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Markus Semm ms...@enaikoon.de wrote:


 the new version 3 of the well known Keypad-Mapper Android app for mapping
 house numbers and addresses has been published on Google Play.
 Lots of new features, an optimized user interface and some bug fixes turn
 this app into the perfect tool for all those enjoying mapping of house
 numbers.


 Looks interesting, but is there a reason that I can't install it on my
 Nexus 7?  My phone has terrible battery life, especially when the GPS is on.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Gift Ideas

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:39 PM, malenki o...@malenki.ch wrote:
 Kate Chapman wrote:

[gifts,] looking for additional ideas.

 What about stickers?
 http://seixahd.notlong.com


If you were really close I'd suggest a mapkin or blanket.
Bit pricey though.

http://softcities.net/


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dublin Bus RTPI Site using OSM

[Ken Guest]

If you're going blind as regards attribution on that site - then so am I.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Richard Cantwell
manaboutco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 You might have seen this site built as part of the RTPI (Real Time
 Passenger Information) project which Dublin Bus are rolling out:
 http://rtpi.ie/

 The first thing I noticed is that is using OSM as a backdrop, which is
 great.  Looking a bit deeper I note that they're overlaying their Bus
 Stop locations onto the map.  Many of these bus stops don't exist in
 the underlying OSM data.  Might there be a case here that we should
 give whoever built the site a friendly nudge asking them to Share
 Alike that data?  I also note that there doesn't seem to be any
 attribution present, but I could be going blind in my old age.

 Regards,

 Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Which software are people using on Symbian?

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On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeremy Stocks jeremyl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi there,

 +

 I'm a newbie to OSM but and oldie in GIS, and am trying to find a decent
 app for my Nokia 6230 Nuron phone. I currently use Trek Buddy but I wondered
 what others use?


  I'm not sure what version symbian that is, but I'm using WhereAmI (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WhereAmI )  on a nokia 9310i for a while
now with no major problems.


 Jeremy.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Released: OpenMaps for iOS v4.0. An idea how to increase OSM awareness.

[Ken Guest]

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Zsombor Szabó zsom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wasn't expecting so poor reception on behalf of the OSM community. No
 one commented on the idea of sharing and checking into OSM places on
 Twitter with OpenMaps for iOS to increase OSM awareness.

 Does this mean that you don't have an iDevice? Don't use Twitter?
 Don't like the app? Or just don't find this idea a good one? Or am I
 missing something?


Would it also work with identi.ca/statusnet?



 Best regards,
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 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 22:46, Zsombor Szabó zsom...@gmail.com wrote:
  Today we released OpenMaps version 4.0 in Apple's App Store. It is a free
  map app based on OpenStreetMap and we believe it is the best. It is as
 slick
  as the built-in (Google) Maps application and if you ever used Maps on an
  iPhone you know that it's not a little thing to say.
  But this is not the reason why I am writing this email.
  I believe in OpenStreetMap. I really do. I want it to be the de facto map
  that everyone uses and I think most of you feel the same way. I also
 believe
  that OpenStreetMap is not getting the deserved user attention that we
 want
  it to receive. I think I have a solution how we could expose it to more
  users with OpenMaps for iOS.
  How? Just launch OpenMaps, find your favorite bar/pub/restaurant/etc. on
 the
  map, tap on it (yes, in contrast with Maps you can tap on POI icons in
  OpenMaps without needing to search for them; innovative, isn't it?) and
 send
  out a checkin tweet. A typical tweet will look like this:
  http://twitter.com/#!/zssz/statuses/7396822796476416http://twitter.com/#%21/zssz/statuses/7396822796476416
  Isn't Foursquare, Gowalla and now Facebook doing something similar you
 ask?
  Exactly. And look how popular they are. I believe that tweeting (checking
  in, commenting, etc.) about OSM POIs is a great way to increase OSM
  awareness. And it is a great way to share places with friends as when
 users
  tap on an openmaps:// link they will be shown the respective OSM element
 in
  OpenMaps (if they have the app installed on their device). They can even
  follow the recent Twitter conversation about an OSM element within the
 app.
  So if they want to share with the public that they serve amazing coffee
 at
  openmaps://n/957085286 then they can do that easily.
  I am enthusiastic about this and encourage you to adopt this because I
  really think it is a great idea to increase OSM awareness. Maybe it will
  catch on, maybe not. It all depends on the critical mass.
  Best regards,
  Zsombor Szabo, CEO
  IZE, Ltd.
  P.S. for OSM Announce list members: If you have questions or have
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Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing the Open Brewpub Map

[Ken Guest]

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Sven Geggus
 li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de wrote:
  Tagging is easy. Just add microbrewery=yes to the node or building
  area object of your local brewpub.

 Whee. Now, please define microbrewery and brewpub.

 Is this a microbrewery:
 http://www.jamessquirebrewhouse.net/melbourne/index.php


yes.

The huge hint is the text Upstairs, our working micro-brewery
produces only the finest of local hand-crafted beers. :D

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Re: [OSM-talk] POI Collection as a Competition

[Ken Guest]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Shaun McDonald
sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote:

 I fear that it would just be gamed and bad data would be entered instead.


That too would be my main worry - unless there was a procedure in place to
verify that data.

k.


 Shaun

 On 10 Jun 2010, at 21:34, Ian Dees wrote:

 I posted this idea as an off-topic message in a thread about the post
 office in talk-us, but I thought it might get more interest over here on
 t...@...

 What if we came up with a way to make POI collection a competition or game?
 Think foursquare/gowalla's checkins mixed in with something like
 http://www.poi-factory.com/. It could be generic enough to encompass any
 sort of POI information (from park benches to trees to mailboxes). Each
 set of data could have some sort of expected information: collection
 times and color might be two things expected for every mailbox, species and
 approx_age might be expected things for every tree.

 A user could join a particular competition (i.e. the tree competition
 or mailbox competition) and attempt to gather as much data as possible to
 get points and fame (badges and maybe cool schwag (I collected 10,000 park
 benches and all I got was this lousy t-shirt) from OSM). If data is
 incorrect, the user could move it or mark it as bad (removing fractional
 points from the original poster for putting in bad data?).

 A user could create a competition if they don't see one they want.

 Maybe the competitions are based on a locale and/or time? The person with
 the most bus stops collected in Chicago over the next 10 days wins a prize.
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Ad

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A nice example of using non-geographic tags (business name, contact details,
opening hours etc)
would be to point out openstreetbrowser ;-)

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:45 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it worth doing a small article on OSM for them?  It might be worth
 pointing out that businesses can be tagged with websites etc. and the tags
 can be read on line.

 Cheerio John


 On 31 May 2010 11:13, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:

 Hey All,

 Yesterday Richard Weait and I got an email about an opportunity to put
 an ad for OSM in a Canadian Business Journal.  Unfortunately the turn
 around was only a couple hours (I'm assuming some advertiser dropped
 out or something).

 Anyway we didn't have anything readily available so we weren't able to
 seize the opportunity.  Does any materials like this exist somewhere
 for OSM?  If not do you think there is a need for it or was this a
 freak occurrence?

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Ad

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On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
 Hey All,

 Yesterday Richard Weait and I got an email about an opportunity to put
 an ad for OSM in a Canadian Business Journal.  Unfortunately the turn
 around was only a couple hours (I'm assuming some advertiser dropped
 out or something).

 Anyway we didn't have anything readily available so we weren't able to
 seize the opportunity.  Does any materials like this exist somewhere
 for OSM?  If not do you think there is a need for it or was this a
 freak occurrence?


When opportunity knocks [next] we should be ready ;-)

Would there not be something in the Press section of the wiki
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Press) that we could use the next
time this happens?

I don't know whether there is or not so this isn't a slight at anyone
about not being able to seize the opportunity with the canadian
business journal - but there's no harm in being prepared for the next
time that this might happen.


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Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

[Ken Guest]

oh yes please. almost all trolleys I've encountered  around home
require 1 euro coins - except the ones at Aldi where 2 euro coins are
required.

Perhaps then I can expand on my script (and someone can update
openstreetbrowser) to filter stores by what denomination of coin is
required for using their trolleys?

What can we do to make this a reality? :D


thanks!

Ken

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote:
 With regards to the fee how would you tag the majority of uk
 supermarkets where the trolleys accept both £1 and €1 coins? This
 seams to be pretty standard on all trolleys introduced since approx
 1998.

 On 4/26/10, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 26 April 2010 11:45, Adrien Pavie dr...@laposte.net wrote:


  Don't forget that we already use the scheme
  vehicle=yes/no/designated/maybe/... to express access restrictions
  for modes of transport - so cart=no actually means no shopping cart
  riding allowed in here ;-)
 
  -Martin

 Ok, I will change it in the wiki, shop:cart=true/false and the other
 tags/propositions.
 But it could be funny create a roadsign No shopping carts =P


 A lot of supermarkets have a system to stop you taking trolleys/carts home
 (sometimes instead of a charge) so they have a sign like No carts beyond
 this line, cart will stop suddenly.

 You could use the fee tag. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fee
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:feebut on the shop=* node that
 seems strange (an entry fee to a shop?) so I would suggest
 shop:cart:fee=yes/no (or cart:fee=yes/no) and link to the fee page.
 I would like to know what coin I need for the trolleys, and I think the fee
 tag is supposed to allow this with something like fee=0.50 (assumes local
 currency!), and I think we can assume you usually have just one coin needed.

 I don't see a need for this information to be rendered on the map, but
 someone could make an application of providing the information at the side
 (along with opening_hours etc) when you click the shop or in a list of
 search results for shops near you. OSM isn't all about 'the' map.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Adrien Pavie dr...@laposte.net wrote:

 Alex S. :
 Why would shops have light-rail trains?

 Yes, it's for shopping cart or caddie, trains in a shop could be strange ^^'.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Promotional OSM Materials

[Ken Guest]

http://blogs.linux.ie/kenguest/2010/03/25/openstreetmap-posters/ and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portal:Press#Resources might be of
use to you.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Ciarán Mooney
general.moo...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have just volunteered to run a stall at the Brixton Spacemakers
 event his weekend[1]. I could do with some stickers and nice leaflets
 to hand out. I know there are some materials on the website I can
 print off, but I was hoping that OSM-F had some resources they were
 willing to give me.

 If anyone has any other hard-copy cool OSM related stuff that would be
 good to show, and is in London (maps you've made etc). That'd be cool
 too.

 Also who can I speak to about getting a hold of the OSM banner?

 Cheers,

 Ciarán


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Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

[Ken Guest]

Out of the other apps that I have tried on my S80 nokia (a 9310i)
whereAmI did seem the best suited.
Not sure if it's still in active development though.

k.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:25 PM, AssetBurned
openstreet...@assetburned.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried to figure out the best way to use OSM abroad, with my equipment.

 I need a way to use downloaded data. So I thought I could use my Symbian 
 S60v3 phone for it. It is a Nokia N82, a good tool for tracking, but to 
 locate yourself?!
 I found the WhereAmI+ app, but I'm not sure if it's still in developing and I 
 also have problems to get maps on it (the export function doesn't work).

 I'm not looking for an app that allows me full TomTom like navigation, just 
 the usual here I am and ok there is a street, in combination with a way 
 to track my position in background.
 I guess that this app is the right one, but if I can't install the maps for 
 another country before I travel it would be totally useless.

 Does someone have a good idea for an alternative?
 I was also thinking about buying a Garmin, but the N82 does basically have 
 the same functionality already. Maybe a tool to use Garmin maps on the N82 
 could be a solution, but I haven't seen such an app.

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreet Maps in Word press

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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:52 AM, John Yumbya jyum...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ho do I have an open street map on my wordpress blog. Thanks



Use this plugin: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/


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Re: [OSM-talk] osm funny poster

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the one that I tend to use is at
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/recruitment_poster/poster.pdfhttp://short.ie/osmposter



k.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Valent Turkovic
valent.turko...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:52:40 +, Valent Turkovic wrote:

  Great and funny poster, I love it.

 Also it would be great to setup a Promote OSM wiki page with different
 posters, flyers and similar accessories that other OSM mappers could use
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:55 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally?


and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM
cheatsheet? ;-)

btw, there is no mention of shipping charges on kernelconcepts website - the
English language version of the Shipping  Returns page is blank. Something
I'd imagine they need to rectify.


k.


 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
 a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has
  produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular
  vi mug that you can see on many geek desks.
 
  The mug boasts 179 of the most important OSM tags (plus a somewhat fake
  amenity=mug, access=private) and is dishwasher safe. Here is a picture:
 
  http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/tasse-big.png
 
  Here are two happy customers:
 
  http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/osm-tasse-kaeufer-froscon.jpg
 
  and here's the full design (spoiler warning):
 
  http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png
 
  I don't earn anything from the mug sales, but FOSSGIS e.V. (the soon to
  be German OSMF chapter...) does: Each mug costs 7.50 EUR to the end
  user, and 1.30 EUR of each sale go to FOSSGIS.
 
  They do international sales and shipping (you can order the mug online
  here: http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/product_info.php?products_id=112)
  but shipping individual mugs is prohibitively expensive. If there is
  interest in the international community then it would probably be best
  if people would pool orders. Their online shop is a bit quirky if you
  use the English interface - contact me offlist if there is a problem and
  I'll check with them.
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

[Ken Guest]

done.
it's a wiki so if anyone wants to tweak what I wrote go ahead and do so...

k.

2009/9/15 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

 El Martes, 15 de Septiembre de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió:
  a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has
  produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular
  vi mug that you can see on many geek desks.

 amenity=mug, amazing=yes

 Could you puh-leeeaze add that at the top of
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Merchandise ??

 With this and the new hi-viz vests, we could re-launch the OSM
 merchandiseparaphernalia shop.


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Re: [OSM-talk] source=(survey, yahoo, gps...)

[Ken Guest]

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/newbies/2007-October/000625.htmlmay
be of interest - if it isn't in the wiki.
just discovered this myself now too.

k.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Valent Turkovic wrote:

  Presets speedup many things, so it would be nice to have also presets for
  source= tag.

 Then create your own presets for your desired source=* tags.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Business listings - a website

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When I expound on why I'm so passionate about contributing towards
OpenStreetMap is this is one of the reasons:

1/ Consider that you've moved into a new area and need to know
* which pharmacy is open the latest
* where the nearest health care centre is
* the quickest route that isn't obstructed by current road works
* list of doctors

2/ And it would be handy to have:
* a list of bbs and other such accommodation that really are in the area
you've moved too - google maps will get this wrong (and does) for data in
ireland (at least) due to lazy parsing off address data. I've seen hotels
that are 20-30 miles away listed and shown with those 'pin point' markers as
being inside the environs of nenagh due to their postal address being too
detailed/inaccurate.

* being able to print off maps for people coming visiting instead of telling
them directions that you just know they won't remember.

3/ also...
something like this could also be used to symbiotically drive websites like
ratemyFOO.com - where FOO is dentist/mechanic/whatever. for existing
businesses pull the co-ords out of OSM and store the ratings elsewhere. for
new ones, enter the co-ords into OSM... ;-)


k.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.comwrote:

 I prefer though that the data shouldn't be directly added to the
 database especially for well-mapped areas.
 Some POIs do not appear in the map (mapnik or osmarender).

 But then you're just mapping for the renderers - omitting data because
 two of current representations of the database as provided by osm.org
 don't show everything the database includes. What about if someone was
 to produce a new renderer from current OSM data?

 Of course, renderers are only the start - if the OSM database
 contained enough information about local businesses somebody could
 start a project involving OSM, Asterisk and some text - speech
 software that would allow you to phone a number and get a list of the
 nearest bicycle shops to your current location that were open at the
 time. Or the nearest car repair shop that was approved by your
 insurance company, or...

 We shouldn't limit ourselves by what could be drawn on a map,
 especially if we limit that even further by what is currently drawn on
 two examples.

 Cheers, Joseph



 2009/7/30 maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com:
  This is really useful and would love this simple service to be
 implemented.
  I prefer though that the data shouldn't be directly added to the
  database especially for well-mapped areas.
  Some POIs do not appear in the map (mapnik or osmarender).  A
  volunteer mapper can subscribe to a boundingbox
  and edit them before upload.  I always prefer a human rather than some
  yellowpages.bot.script.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:05 AM, OJ Wojwli...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Sorry for breaking the thread, but I did a mockup of a website that
  people could use to enter their own businesses into OSM:
 
  http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/SmallAds/http://dev.openstreetmap.org/%7Eojw/SmallAds/
 
  so any user of this website can* create up to 5 OSM nodes, label them
  as amenity=whatever, and enter a description, a phone number, and a
  website.
 
  the idea would be: this is pitched at small business owners who've
  never heard of OSM, and only buy advertising on yellow pages because
  someone knocked at their door and sold it to them.  It should take
  less than 10 minutes to setup, for someone who only once per month
  uses the computer their grandson bought them, and should be simple
  enough that you can guide someone though it over the phone.
 
  Additionally, it should be easy for self-employed salesmen to go
  around their home towns selling this service to every business, taking
  some fixed price to enter the shop's details into OSM, print a map for
  them, and give them an img for their website.  We can't reach
  everybody to help in OSM, but if someone sees a business in creating
  free data then maybe they can help us.
 
  * I've done an basic webapp mockup, but could someone help with coding
  the creation of OSM objects?  It's neanderthal PHP at the moment, but
  you can port it to rails or cake or J2EEmanagementEdition if you
  prefer.
 
  Ideas welcome
 
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[Ken Guest]

thanks Ture - I'll have a look so I can check I'm not entering them wrong
;-)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Ture Pålsson t...@lysator.liu.se wrote:

 2009/7/12 Ken Guest k...@linux.ie:
  [ ... ]
  So anyway...my questions are:
  1//how should these be tagged in OSM
  2//Has anyone already started tagging these?

 FWIW, these routes seem to have gone on holiday to Sweden, where they
 are called Hälsans stig, and some of them are tagged in the database
 (I just typed hälsans stig in the name finder and three turned up --
 none of them where I live; seems there's work for me... :-) ). I have
 no idea whether they are a good example to follow, but at least it is
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thanks Ture - I'll have a look so I can check I'm not entering them wrong
;-)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Ture Pålsson t...@lysator.liu.se wrote:

 2009/7/12 Ken Guest k...@linux.ie:
  [ ... ]
  So anyway...my questions are:
  1//how should these be tagged in OSM
  2//Has anyone already started tagging these?

 FWIW, these routes seem to have gone on holiday to Sweden, where they
 are called Hälsans stig, and some of them are tagged in the database
 (I just typed hälsans stig in the name finder and three turned up --
 none of them where I live; seems there's work for me... :-) ). I have
 no idea whether they are a good example to follow, but at least it is
 prior art...

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[OSM-talk] Path to Health/Slí na Sláinte route s

[Ken Guest]

It occurred to me while looking for examples of what constitutes
Completeness with regards to the mapping of a town, and also after
checking whether my attempts at marking up a portion of a cycle-route
between Nenagh and Cloughjordan were correct, that there are also
established walking routes in most Irish towns.

I'm referring to the *Slí na Sláinte *routes as developed by the Irish
Heart Foundation, which typically range from 3-6 kilometres in length.

So anyway...my questions are:
1//how should these be tagged in OSM
2//Has anyone already started tagging these?

I've read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Walking_Routes and am slightly
unsure of how to proceed. Tagging highways with lwn_ref values might be the
way to go?



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Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC; C = Cool

[Ken Guest]

and it's far too noisy...

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:

 At 00:06 08/07/2009, Russ Nelson wrote:

 On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:53 PM, SteveC wrote:

 
  On 7 Jul 2009, at 23:26, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
 
  After the years of iterations don't you think it sucks that your
  simple
  easy REST-based model is now made so difficult in 0.6?
 
  Mozart had Salieri, I get you guys.


 Mozart got the better deal.

 Ah, I get it now. OSM has ... too many nodes. [1]

 Mike

 [1] Amadeus - the movie.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Photos

[Ken Guest]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Frankie Roberto
fran...@frankieroberto.comwrote:


 On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 
 ava...@gmail.comwrote:


 Here are a bunch of very large correctly georeferenced images images
 I've taken during mapping parties:


 Nice!

 I tend not to upload my mapping photos to Flickr (mainly because I think my
 friends would be a bit bored by hundreds of photos of road names, junctions
 and sign posts).



Create a secondary flickr account? ;-)



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Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

[Ken Guest]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:


 --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Thomas Schäfer tschae...@t-online.de wrote:

  Your horse isn't high?

 I prefer soap boxes personally, they don't tend to shy ;)




or kick...

:(

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Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

[Ken Guest]

A better exercise, I think, would be to create an A4 sized cheatsheet of
common POIs and how they should generally be tagged - something that people
can print out and laminate to either use themselves or distribute at mapping
parties that could be used as an aid for when one is out mapping and wants
to tag-as-you-go.

I'm not sure but I think someone else may have suggested this previously.

k.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 David Earl wrote:
  On 24/06/2009 00:43, Frederik Ramm wrote:
  Hi,
 
  greg...@arenius.com wrote:
  What do people think?
 
  I think why bother. Clearly what we have is chaotic, but any system
  you can think of will become chaotic sooner or later with people
  (ab)using it to their heart's content, so what's the big deal.
 
  +1
 
  If you're not sure what something comes under it's easy enough to look
  it up, and in most cases presets know about it anyway.
 
  Personally I think these categorizations have no value anyway, and if I
  were designing it from scratch, I'd have just a type for each item and

 A reason to do better categorizations would be to ease conversion to mobile
 (or online) routeplanners, which already have some sort of categorization
 in
 amenities. If you don't do that in OSM than you need a conversion for that.
 Not saying that this is a compelling argument to do categories in OSM, but
 it
 does have a value.

 Personally I'm also more inclined to why bother.

 Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

[Ken Guest]

You're correct.
Everybody knows it should centre on Dublin...

k.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over
 the world.

 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Shaun McDonald 
 sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote:


 On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote:

   One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
 is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.

 I checked it (from other random computers, not my laptop) when I was in
 Thailand and Australia and it always showed the UK.  Is the UK the default
 if IP resolution fails?


 It will default to the following if nothing else works (from url, cookie,
 user home location, session cookie, and GeoIP)
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.1lon=-0.1zoom=5

 The code of the algorithm is at

 http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/sites/rails_port/app/views/site/index.html.erb#L55

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Re: [OSM-talk] tagging tyre/tire services?

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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Gleb Smirnoff gleb...@glebius.int.ruwrote:

  Hi!

  Didn't find in Map Features page how to tag a service that
 can mount, unmount and repair motorcar tyres. This is a quite
 important POI for a car traveller.

 Looking at tagwatch, I've found a small usage of service=tire,
 55 instances in Europe.

 Let's define an official tag for this and document it in Map Features
 page. An advice from native English speakers is required:

 which word is better for tag key: service or shop?
 which word is correct for tag value: tire or tyre?



service=tyre I think would be the better choice out of those options.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Using Garmins nüvi 550 for OSM

[Ken Guest]

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Garmin comes to mind, if anyone wants to
update it ;-)

ken

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Ingo Lantschner
listen2...@lantschner.namewrote:


 Hi,
 anyone here, who has experiences on using Garmins nüvi 550 for
 collecting data and exporting this for use in OSM?

 Cheers, Ingo

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Re: [OSM-talk] Castles and Palaces

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:

 2009/6/5 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk:
 
  Burg: a fortress or a walled town
  (according to my 1990 vintage Chambers English Dictionary).
 
  So I'd say the English for burg is burg, and yes this is pointless.

 thanks a lot. In old-English you could also say burh.


and most likely in Old German too.

damn but Tolkien was a fine philologist!



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Re: [OSM-talk] R: RFC: amenity=mortuary (and amenity=emergency_room)

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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM, David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:16:59 +0200, Fabrizio Carrai wrote:

  I agree for the morgue term.

 Well, ok. I'm not particularly in favour of one version over the other ;)

  I would say something to key amenity an why I would prefer the use of
 the
  key landuse

 Well, landuse?!.. it's not land, it usually is a building... Maybe I'm
 missing this, but maybe you forgot your motivations for landuse?

  I don't know in other launguages but in italian the most common meaning
 for
  AMENITY is something nice, beautiful, pleasant...

 Eh già ;)
 However, I'd really stick to amenity: those are meant as facilities
 (maybe
 facility= would be better? But then we would need to change a *lot* of
 tags
 out there)



eh, so somebody would need to write some update rules for a bot to change
them.
I don't see the problem with regards to mass edits such as what would be
required here.

It makes far more sense to use a sensible tag name that can best describe
what is required/being tagged.


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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?

[Ken Guest]

My own answer was a little less vague ;-)

Considering the estate is nowhere to be seen on google|yahoo maps I answered
that personally, in the first instance, I can email friends a link to a map
that not only has that estate on it - but literally has an X marking the
spot of which house is ours.

No vague direction giving or forgetfulness to worry about!

k.

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/5/1 Ken Guest k...@linux.ie:

  Has anyone else been asked similar questions, and what was your response?

 Why does a painter paint?

 Why play football?

 Why give money to charity?

 Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?)

 Why walk up a mountain?

 Dermot

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[OSM-talk] Deriving reference numbers for L roads

[Ken Guest]

I've come across a handy trick for determining the reference number for a L
road here in Tipperary - the county council
publishes the Speed Limit By-Laws; and nicely refers to most roads by the
L-ref value. The by-laws are available for free download off their website.

In most cases this makes it  rather easy to determine what the reference
number for a given road is if there's a speed-limit road-sign on it.

Not all county-councils seem to follow this practice of identifying the
roads in this manner, but where they do checking their By-Laws for such
information is rather useful.

hoping this helps,

Ken

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