Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Facebook et MapBox sont dans un bateau

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Jean-Christophe Becquet
Le 14/07/2020 à 18:29, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : > Certes la situation est un peu différente mais après avoir essayé > (souvent avec succès) de récupérer les développeurs de bibliothèques et > d'outil OpenSource (comme Dane Springmeyer ouVladimir Agafonkin), voici > que MapBox

Re: [Talk-us] Importing data for Prince William County, VA

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Matthew Woehlke
On 13/07/2020 17.46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us wrote: Jul 13, 2020, 20:29 by mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com: It is still required to use a separate account for manually audited changes? Is it going to be "by comparing dataset X and OSM I found places to map roads that I added using aerial

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Jmapb
On 7/14/2020 7:44 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: Around me the norm is that residential driveways (98% of them) are not signed no trespassing, but that it is considered reasonable to use them if 1) you live there 2) you are delivering something 3) you are a guest 4) you are going there for some other

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Mike Thompson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:46 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > So a router that does not allow use of access=private for a final > segment, by default, is broken. +1 Even if we go with the idea that driveways are not access=private unless posted, there are some driveways that are posted, and people

Re: [Talk-GB] Call to action: Translators needed

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Simon Poole
On 14.07.2020 17:21, o...@poppe.dev wrote: > ... again, your wording sounds like you don't trust the organizations further > that you could throw a rock and basically discard their efforts as those of > money-hungry, evil corporations that aren't interested in the humanitarian > aspect at all

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden ael
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:30:00PM +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > > this point if we're actually advocating the hitherto undocumented usage of > segregated=yes to mean 'cycleway is separate from main carriageway' because > I suspect I'm not the only one whose been using it as per the wiki to show >

[Talk-ca] Pont Gouin Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Révision relations routes vélo empruntant le Pont - Travaux 2020

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
A noter que le nouveau pont comprend une piste à une voie côté nord et une piste à deux voies côté sud. J'ai vérifié aujourd'hui, ce qui confirme que les travaux ne sont complétés que pour la voie côté nord et la voie côté sud ne sera pas opérationnelle avant l'automne. Aucun accès à proximité

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Adam Snape
I'm not saying it's terrible but as you note it's not exactly an optimum example of good mapping. Just as with roads, I tend to view cycleway surface tags as distinctly optional/low priority where they confirm to the default of being asphalt and of great importance where they deviate from that

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Gareth L
I do have to say that surface info is very useful. A lot of cycleways have gravel sections and that can be no fun on, say, a Brompton bike with 16” wheels. Much like pavements, I’d start my focus on the details which are not what you might expect, like where a road doesn’t have a pedestrian

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Adam Snape
Quite agree, whilst harmless oneway=no seems a bit OTT, as tbh does marking the surface on every single asphalt cycleway... I have utmost respect for cyclestreets but that tagging guidance does seem garbled at points Since when has the segregated=yes/no tag on a cycleway referred to the

Re: [Talk-at] OpenStreetMap in Österreichs Bildung und Lehre, Frage id 70000

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Andreas
Am 13.07.20 um 22:42 schrieb Manuela Schmidt: > Hallo, > >> Vielleicht kannst Du mir aber helfen. Gibt es Arbeiten welche sich mit >> dem Potential im Einsatz von OpenSource Software wie Fossgis, und >> OpenStreetMap auseinandersetzen. > Es gibt eine Vielzahl akademischer Arbeiten in diesem

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
At least in English, "not reuse the Information in a way that suggests that it is official or that Licensor approves your use of the Information; take all reasonable steps to ensure that the uses permitted above do not mislead others and that the Information itself is not misrepresented." reads as

Re: [OSRM-talk] Comparing routes from different datasets

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Florian Lohoff
Hi Martin, On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 05:07:04PM +0200, Martin Schmidl wrote: > Hi, > > In a project of mine I am using OSM data from a city for 7 different years. > Recent data from 2020 acts as the reference. I want to see how different > changes in the data will affect the routing for quality

[OSM-talk-fr] Facebook et MapBox sont dans un bateau

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden osm . sanspourriel
Certes la situation est un peu différente mais après avoir essayé (souvent avec succès) de récupérer les développeurs de bibliothèques et d'outil OpenSource (comme Dane Springmeyer ouVladimir Agafonkin), voici que MapBox continue sa politique de sortie du libre. On les avait déjà vus à l’œuvre

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 15:28, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Maybe they assume that it is covered > anyway by moral rights? > > But ODBL waives moral rights if allowed > by law, > it attempts to block asserting such claims, > and so on. > > Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer etc

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Adam Franco
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:46 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > ... > > As for access=private 'breaking' routing, this discussion feels very > much like tagging for the router, instead of tagging what is and fixing > the router. If you are driving someplace and you have permission, then > it should be

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Black Country Geopark

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Brian Prangle
Hi Andy and mappamercia I've delved into this some more and it appears that the Geopark is a collection of pre-existing sites so mapping them as a relation shouldn't be too difficult. However the list of sites is published on the geopark website

[Talk-bo] visores de conjuntos de cambios en página osm.org

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Marco Antonio
Hola, Hace 1 mes aproximadamente escribí un script que añade el enlace de los visores de conjuntos de cambios (achavi y osmcha) a las páginas en osm.org de detalles de los elementos OSM (punto, línea, área), página de historial, página de cambios de amigos, y página de ediciones de usuarios

Re: [Talk-GB] Call to action: Translators needed

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden osm
> I've been asked to clarify this as it might come across as a personal > attack which was not intended, sorry. Apology accepted, but ... > The, very well funded, organizations in OSM space that claim > "Humanitarian" for themselves, market themselves mainly by having a > never ending stream of

[OSRM-talk] Comparing routes from different datasets

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Schmidl
Hi, In a project of mine I am using OSM data from a city for 7 different years. Recent data from 2020 acts as the reference. I want to see how different changes in the data will affect the routing for quality reasons (e.g: If i used data from 2014 today, will my route be better or worse?). For

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:15 AM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > The (possible) problem with having access implied by service=driveway is > that a lot of access roads to stores/businesses/offices are also >

Re: [Talk-GB] Call to action: Translators needed

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Simon Poole
I've been asked to clarify this as it might come across as a personal attack which was not intended, sorry. The, very well funded, organizations in OSM space that claim "Humanitarian" for themselves, market themselves mainly by having a never ending stream of emergencies (some real, some not,

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Does OSM have a similar concept as the "Organisation" from Mappilary?

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Donal Hunt
First I heard about it. I created teams for Cork and Ireland. On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 15:14, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 07/07/2020, Donal Hunt wrote: > > https://osmcha.org has a teams function which allows you to see changes > > over time. See https://osmcha.org/teams > > Pascal Neis also

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Matthew Woehlke
On 14/07/2020 09.44, Alex Hennings wrote: Regarding: a driveway to a house should not be tagged access=yes because a no trespassing sign cannot be seen. That is a complete violation of verfiability, becuase the mapper has zero evidence that access should be yes. *Given our defaults, no access

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Does OSM have a similar concept as the "Organisation" from Mappilary?

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden moltonel 3x Combo
On 07/07/2020, Donal Hunt wrote: > https://osmcha.org has a teams function which allows you to see changes > over time. See https://osmcha.org/teams > Pascal Neis also has some tools. e.g. you can visualise by hashtag here: >

[Talk-cat] Estat de les vies (velocitat maxima)

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Xavier Barnada
Hola llista, He fet un repàs amb el overpass de les velocitats màximes a Catalunya per tindre una idea orientativa de com estan i es el següent: *Tipus de via* *Elements sense maxspeed* motorway 36 trunk 610 primary 5407 secondary 8424 tertiary 21527 Jo usant OpenStreetCam i Mapillary he pogut

Re: [Talk-it] Controllo coordinate dataset Biblioteche

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden maurizio galli
Per quelle che conosco nel Nord Milano sono spesso indicate le sedi vecchie di almeno 10 anni. Il mar 14 lug 2020, 15:02 Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: > Ciao, > > se qualcuno vuole fare qualche valutazione sulla precisione delle > coordinate: > > http://u.osmfr.org/m/480434 > >

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Alex Hennings
Regarding: > a driveway to a house should not be tagged access=yes > because a no trespassing sign cannot be seen. That is a complete > violation of verfiability, becuase the mapper has zero evidence that > access should be yes. *Given our defaults, no access tag is equivalent> to that.* You're

Re: [Talk-it] Controllo coordinate dataset Biblioteche

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrea Musuruane
Ciao, nella mia zona, tranne qualche eccezione, le biblioteche sono posizionati abbastanza male. Inoltre, sono presenti anche biblioteche chiuse o trasferite da diverso tempo. Ciao, Andrea On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:02 PM Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > Ciao, > > se qualcuno vuole fare

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk
14 Jul 2020, 14:54 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > >> On 14. Jul 2020, at 12:40, Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk >> wrote: >> >> Such data is incompatible with >> OSM requirements, must not be >> imported, must be removed as >> copyright violation if added already. >>

Re: [Talk-it] [Import] civici Bergamo

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 14:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > ho anche trovato un paper che lo dice: > https://www.jlis.it/article/downloadSuppFile/5461/271 in realtà dice che è “probabilmente“ ok, visto la dichiarazione del license steward, per la IODL2, mentre per la

Re: [Talk-it] Cancelliamo gli opening_hours:covid19 ?

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Cascafico Giovanni
Non per fare il menagramo, ma quando è stata decretata l'emergenza c'erano molti meno casi di oggi ...e la discesa ha rallentato. Il 14/07/20, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 14. Jul 2020, at 13:13, Francesco Ansanelli >> wrote: >> >> Gli orari di apertura covid

[Talk-it] Controllo coordinate dataset Biblioteche

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Cascafico Giovanni
Ciao, se qualcuno vuole fare qualche valutazione sulla precisione delle coordinate: http://u.osmfr.org/m/480434 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 12:40, Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk > wrote: > > Such data is incompatible with > OSM requirements, must not be > imported, must be removed as > copyright violation if added already. on the plus side there is a declaration of the license steward

Re: [Talk-it] [Import] civici Bergamo

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. Jul 2020, at 19:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > non è questione della ODbL, la questione è il progetto OpenStreetMap, che > consente a chiunque di modificare tutto in realtà sembra che sia problema della compatibilità con la Odbl, così hanno scritto in ml

Re: [Talk-it] Cancelliamo gli opening_hours:covid19 ?

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 13:13, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > Gli orari di apertura covid andrebbero trasformati in orari di apertura o > assumi che sia tutto come prima? assumo che sia tutto come prima. Se pensate che avrebbe senso lasciare i tag un altro po’, potrebbe

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapillary -> opensStreetCam

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Gad Jo
Après essai la gestion des doublons est prisent en compte. Un message d'information indique que l'envoi est déjà prévu ou déjà fait. J'ai tellement de séquences à envoyer que la file d'attente est longue mais d'autres tests doivent être fait. J'ai constaté que si un envoi est déjà prévu et

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapillary/Osmose/*signs

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Gad Jo
Perso j'indique la limite sur la voie concernée. Pour le panneau et pour alléger les modifications pour le jour où les limites changent je m'abstient de créer les panneaux. Prends le cas ou la vitesse est changée sur place et tu a les deux informations. Si tu en oubli une, un autre

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
"Is it one-way? oneway=yes / oneway=no" is it really a good idea to always include oneway=no? I would consider it as kind of pointless to require oneway tag to be always present I added some advertisement for StreetComplete (I implemented for example bicycle_parking quests as part of my plan for

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Jul 14, 2020, 13:17 by jm...@gmx.com: > On 7/14/2020 4:53 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us wrote: > >> >> Jul 14, 2020, 02:20 by >> jm...@gmx.com>> : >> >>> If there was reason to believe you needed explicit permission to >>> be on >>> that way, then access=private would be

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Greg Troxel
Tod Fitch writes: > There are “gated communities” where you can’t get in unless you have a > card key or speak with a gate keeper. Those should, I think, have > access=private as you need explicit permission on each entry. > > But for the case where the road is privately owned but the owner >

Re: [talk-cz] nečeský name=*

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Michal Fabík
Ahoj, eh, jo, pardon, v mezičase jsem to smazal, protože jako chorvatština to byl zjevný nesmysl. Vráceno tedy jako němčina. BTW, tady[1] je z nějakého důvodu arabsky napsáno prostě "rovník", takže je otázka, jestli tyhle věci vůbec dávat do "name:xx", a ne třeba do "inscription:xx". [1]

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Jmapb
On 7/14/2020 4:53 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us wrote: Jul 14, 2020, 02:20 by jm...@gmx.com: On 7/13/2020 4:09 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 13/07/2020 15.16, Kevin Kenny wrote: The immediate curtilage of a house is presumed to be private; at least

Re: [Talk-it] Cancelliamo gli opening_hours:covid19 ?

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Francesco Ansanelli
Ciao Martin, Ti riferisci solo all'Italia, vero? Gli orari di apertura covid andrebbero trasformati in orari di apertura o assumi che sia tutto come prima? Grazie Francesco Il mar 14 lug 2020, 11:02 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > Come da oggetto, propongo un edit automatico per cancellare

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk
14 Jul 2020, 11:37 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > Can we guarantee that the contained information is not "misrepresented"? > No. ODBL has no such restrictions. Therefore OSM data can be used in  several evil or non-evil ways that would violate such clauses. Such data is incompatible with OSM

Re: [Talk-es] Ediciones usuario JosefoLGV (o jlcc78)

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Miguel Sevilla-Callejo
El usuario en cuestión fue bloqueado ayer para 6 meses: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3799 On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 13:29, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo wrote: > Hola, > > En su mensaje a esta misma lista de correo la persona que está detrás del > usuario jlcc78 (José Sánchez) afirma [1]:

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Jmapb
On 7/13/2020 3:22 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: Out of curiosity, I looked at the tagging of a neighborhood I know of which has privately owned roads (maintained by the homeowner’s association) but no gate blocking entry. There are signs indicating that the roads are “private” but that state road

[OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
In recent local discussions it has emerged that some license has conditions for the reuse of the data, which may eventually not be completely compatible with OSM. In particular it relates to an Italian license which states as a condition you have to "not reuse the Information in a way that

[OSM-talk-fr] Mapillary/Osmose/*signs

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Jacques Lavignotte
Bonjour, Je fais des capture d'itinéraires avec Mapillary. Quelques temps plus tard Osmose me propose les panneaux maxspeed / maxweight. Autant que possible je reporte les restrictions sur la route. Mais j'en fais quoi de ces panneaux ? - posés sur le bord/dans le fossé ? - sur la way de

[Talk-it] Cancelliamo gli opening_hours:covid19 ?

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
Come da oggetto, propongo un edit automatico per cancellare gli opening_hours:covid19=* (e forse altri tag covid19, se ci sono). Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Jul 14, 2020, 02:20 by jm...@gmx.com: > On 7/13/2020 4:09 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > >> On 13/07/2020 15.16, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> >>> >>> The immediate curtilage of a house is presumed to be private; at least >>> in the US, one does not drive or walk directly up to someone's house >>>

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Des panneaux de direction

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Éric Gillet
Le 19/06/2020 à 11:59, Jean-Christophe Becquet a écrit : Bonjour, Comment bien taguer ces points qualifiés par erreur comme panneaux publicitaires alors qu'il s'agit de panneaux de direction ? Les 2 premiers indiquent des quartiers ou des équipements structurants pour la ville.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tagrequest :: "Nouveau lieu de loisirs et d’animations familiales"

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Éric Gillet
Le 10/07/2020 à 13:36, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : Ce noeud https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7701888072 "Nouveau lieu de loisirs et d’animations familiales" selon : https://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/vienne/a-biard-ce-soir-le-mana-ouvre-ses-portes-en-fanfare comme on y joue à la

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Hatfield, Pretoria - Add Shp File

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Reuben Honigwachs
Hi Calayde, have you seen the following advice already? https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/28829/upload-shapefile-to-osm Best, Reuben On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 09:45, Calayde Davey wrote: > Thank you, > > I am unfamiliar with the details - I will try my best this week, and reach > back out

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Best of OpenStreetMap : améliorer la page FR:Cartothèque sur le wiki

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden osm . sanspourriel
Bonjour, Le site http://bestofosm.org ne répond plus. Si, c'est juste le certificat qui a expiré depuis... mars. Jean-Yvon ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping of Dover Harbour Board

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Jez Nicholson
Thanks Frederik, Looking on the positive side, it's nice to know that people out there want our maps. Regards, Jez On Mon, 13 Jul 2020, 20:56 Frederik Ramm, wrote: > Hi, > > the DWG has received the following message: > > > Hi, > > > > A bit of feedback. > > The openstreet map

[OSM-talk-fr] Best of OpenStreetMap : améliorer la page FR:Cartothèque sur le wiki

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Jean-Christophe Becquet
Bonjour, Le site http://bestofosm.org ne répond plus. La page FR:Cartothèque sur le wiki OpenStreetMap qui propose de recenser des exemples de qualité n'a pas été mise à jour depuis 2018. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Cartoth%C3%A8que Je trouve très utile d'avoir sous la main une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapillary -> opensStreetCam

2020-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Gad Jo
J'ai testé cet nuit et ça fonctionne bien. Par contre ce matin sur mon petit écran j'ai appuyé de nouveau sur upload. J'espère que ça ne va pas repartir en double. Tu a des infos à ce sujet ? Le July 11, 2020 7:52:48 PM UTC, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : >Lu sur le foroum Mapillary : > > >I