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From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:28 AM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: OSM US Talk; steve...@softworkers.com
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects
I believe I recall seeing that Kansas already has erected USBR 66 signs.
I'm down
[mailto:mve...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Martijn van Exel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 2:49 PM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: OSM US Talk; steve...@softworkers.com
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects
Great to see progress on this, kudos to you and Steve both for investing all
that time
...@gmail.com [mailto:mve...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Martijn van Exel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:35 PM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: OSM US Talk; steve...@softworkers.com
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects
Hey Kerry - thanks for clarifying and for bearing with me as I learn about
To: KerryIrons
Cc: Paul Johnson; steve...@softworkers.com; OSM US Talk
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects
KANSAS
Model: Not Determined
Phase I: Planning
There is interest in the U.S. Bicycle Route System with momentum behind USBR
66 and 76. To find out more about bicycle
, October 21, 2013 6:55 PM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: OSM US Talk; steve...@softworkers.com
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Route mapping projects
OK let me know if I can help, I know a few bike folks at the local government
here and some folks at UDOT I could ask.
Martijn
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:46 PM
the route number. Especially since as far as I'm aware,
only USBR 76 and possibly USBR 1 has a name.
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
On 6/8/2013 4:18 PM, KerryIrons wrote:
Herere just some of the comments from OSM members:
I'll add my opinion that I don't see
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
So Paul, what you really want is advocacy mapping. Not mapping reality but
mapping what you want to have. It comes as a great
Association
From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org]
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 12:45 PM
To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
It sounds like you want to add
route, not
connected with actual efforts to develop and designate a USBR.
Kerry Irons
Adventure Cycling
From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:20 PM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: OpenStreetMap talk-us list; Andy Allen
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Removing US
Again, a number of points of clarification are needed.
First, there is a single body in the US for assigning numbers to US Bicycle
Routes. AASHTO owns the process, just as they do for all federal highways
in the US. There can be any number of state and local bicycle routes,
proposed or
in
removing those tags. Others who are interested in this issue can contact me
off-list.
Kerry Irons
-Original Message-
From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 10:17 AM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: 'Greg Troxel'; 'Frederik Ramm'; talk-us@openstreetmap.org
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To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
Again, a number of points of clarification are needed.
First, there is a single body in the US for assigning numbers to US Bicycle
couldn't be discussed
with the community, so you're just as guilty as he is right now with that
request.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
Yes, these routes have been labeled with USBR numbers. This is the issue I
raised back in March and the only issue
:16 AM
To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list; Andy Allen
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
Actually Paul, people have disagreed. There are those who have taken the
position in this exchange that Who does
Some clarification is needed.
It is not that these roads might be good bicycle routes or even that they
are perhaps part of existing or proposed bicycle routes. But they are not
approved US Bicycle Routes and therefore do not have a USBR route number.
The maps show them as having a USBR route
Exact same situation in Michigan where end speed limit signs are
frequently used when leaving a small town. Our 55 mph limit applies to all
secondary roads as well as state roads. Rarely do you see a speed limit
sign on these secondary roads and speed limit signs on state roads are
widely
Jeff,
I hope you are aware that the RAGBRAI route changes every year. And that is
not just adjustments to the route but rather completely different routes
each year. While routes may repeat after a few years, if you did the
RAGBRAI route every year you would eventually show a large fraction of
Minh,
The USBR numbering system is the same as the US Federal Highways system for
dealing with scenic routes or alternates. So if there is an alternate to
USBR 50 (whether as a scenic route or simply an alternate) then it would be
numbered USBR 50A. Spur routes and bypass routes follow the same
of how to
document a developing route being done by the Ohio DOT. This is the kind of
communication and coordination we are seeking.
Kerry
-Original Message-
From: Greg Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:32 PM
To: KerryIrons
Cc: 'OpenStreetMap talk-us list
To: KerryIrons
Cc: Greg Troxel; OpenStreetMap talk-us list
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA
This is a concern about there being no active project to develop a route but
having a route showing on OSM/OCM.
If that's the situation it seems we have a clear cut case at hand
in
KY and TN and USBR 21 in Ohio. We would have no concerns about tagging that
route as UGRR rather than 21 or 25.
Kerry
-Original Message-
From: Minh Nguyen [mailto:m...@1ec5.org]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:55 AM
To: KerryIrons;
public-talk-us-3+rWM/WnaLOn4i5uJCXUsti2O/jbr
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA
Let's not chide people for keeping this discussion on the list in the open
where it belongs.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
Alex,
I am in contact with the mappers involved
Richard,
Thanks for your comments. While we do not have the reach or funding of
Sustrans, our efforts are very similar in developing the US Bicycle Route
System. We use the UK's National Cycle Network (as well as EuroVelo and the
Canadian Route Verte) as one of our example templates when we
Steve,
I understand the concept you are putting forth and my concern is to be sure
that whatever mechanism is used for mapping US Bicycle Routes that there is
communication and coordination in the process.
And this is a bit off topic (forgive me as I am new here) but why is there
no scale
at Sustrans is ultimately driving
the same point.
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
Paul,
The challenge is between wanting to move the USBR process forward with a
push from having a proposed route out there and the risk of push back when
some official basically
PM
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
It's fine to tag a route as proposed but proposed by who?
Let's not get hung up in the semantics; it basically means
All,
I am heavily involved in the development of US Bicycle Routes (see
www.adventurecycling.org/usbrs) and it has come to my attention that
OpenStreetMap/OpenCycleMap have proposed maps for US Bicycle Routes 21, 25,
80, and 84 in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA. The routes are shown as dashed lines
but
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