Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Evan Sebire
I stuffed up the Longitude of the central meridian, it should be 149.00929483. That being said, I tested 5 different co-ords and some seem to be out/hard to recognise bbq's. I downloaded 7 parameter transformation tool(works with linux/wine) from

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:21 PM, Evan Sebire wrote: If someone knows a bbq that is clearly visible on the satellite imagery that would help to verify the procedure. There are two at http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=17ll=-35.293,149.093layer=BTT I think I did those from waypoints, but

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 03/10/2009, at 5:21 PM, Evan Sebire wrote: If someone knows a bbq that is clearly visible on the satellite imagery that would help to verify the procedure. There are two at http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=17ll=-35.293,149.093layer=BTT I

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out where streets are, although some streets have been consumed and the boundary information doesn't reflect this. Does anyone know how roads drawn from this information should be tagged?

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Evan Sebire
I just took another look at the transformation tool http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/file/0016/5209/geomin32.exe and the spreadsheet is giving out the AMG lat long not MGA. I entered the lat long that the tool states is MGA into g'sat imagery and presto, mark straight on top of bbq!

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: I just took another look at the transformation tool http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/file/0016/5209/geomin32.exe and the spreadsheet is giving out the AMG lat long not MGA. I entered the lat long that the tool states is MGA into g'sat imagery

Re: [talk-au] BTC mapper (Live POI uploader) launch event

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
There is a pro version that is more or less identical to the free version of our POI application for mobile phones, people want something more if they think it's got more perceived value, than something given away as freeware, which I find ironically funny. Any way there is 50 free copies being

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Evan Sebire
The problem is there is not one spreadsheet. The downloadable tool is rough enough for these types of POI. High accuracy between AMG to MGA only can be done with tools that use grid transformation (a bit table of values, NT file), these are also available as a free download, but would then

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Liz
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote: 2009/10/3 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: The problem is there is not one spreadsheet. The downloadable tool is rough enough for these types of POI. High accuracy between AMG to MGA only can be done with tools that use grid transformation (a bit table of

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: The solution exists if we want to use a free download tool.  I do have source code for performing grid transformation from NTv2 files, but I think the effort creating an accurate tool for bbq's isn't justified. The tool from act gov will be within a

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 02/10/2009, at 9:01 PM, John Smith wrote: Might have to be a multipolygon, I just can't get it to render at all if I tell mapnik the tiles are dirty. I've just changed it over to be a multipolygon relation - if that works, I'll go file a bug

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out where streets are, although some streets have been consumed and the boundary information doesn't reflect this. Does anyone know how roads drawn from this information should be

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Brendan Morley
John, How do you mean consumed? Is this related to the comment you made on my diary entry at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/morb_au/diary/8140 ? I've also added my own tagging examples at a new page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data.australia.gov.au/Queensland if that helps.

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au: How do you mean consumed? Some land owners have taken over the land when it's probably still crown land. For example: http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8ll=-26.158115,152.64636spn=0.007184,0.013937z=17 Horswoord Road mostly doesn't exist, yet the

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:29:13 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out where streets are, although some streets have been consumed and the boundary information doesn't

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:29:13 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out where streets are, although some streets have been

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:46:22 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:29:13 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Using the Qld govt boundaries

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Ross Scanlon
I intended to fix it as soon as I could work out what tags were needed, but I thought I'd give an example of what is possible thanks to the new data becoming available. Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this. -- Cheers Ross ___

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: I intended to fix it as soon as I could work out what tags were needed, but I thought I'd give an example of what is possible thanks to the new data becoming available. Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this. Brendan has set up a WMS

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Brendan Morley
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:25:44 +1000, John Smith wrote: 2009/10/3 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au: How do you mean consumed? Some land owners have taken over the land when it's probably still crown land. For example:

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Ross Scanlon
Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this. Brendan has set up a WMS server of property boundaries, and things that aren't boudnaries show up as black areas and it's possible to guess which is roads depending how straight the gaps are between boudnaries. Here's a before shot of

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/4 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au: That's one of the reasons why I'm tagging DCDB-derived roads with note=DCDB indicates a right of way in this location. Needs a field survey to confirm highway type and actual alignment. Sometimes the road formation does not exist! That was just

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread Brendan Morley
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 00:15:21 +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote: Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this. Brendan has set up a WMS server of property boundaries, and things that aren't boudnaries show up as black areas and it's possible to guess which is roads depending how straight the

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 02/10/2009, at 8:33 PM, James Livingston wrote: I converted the World Heritage Area file on my machine, and just uploaded one of the areas[1]. Does it look okay to people? If so, I'll go ahead and do the rest of the WHA data. Right, so it turns out that my randomly chosen one was a

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/4 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: Right, so it turns out that my randomly chosen one was a complete fluke - in most cases the World Heritage Areas and the National Parks don't have the same boundaries. There is however a proposed tagging scheme for UNESCO World Heritage areas/places,

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/4 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 04/10/2009, at 12:33 PM, John Smith wrote: whc:criteria:7=yes whc:criteria:8=yes whc:criteria:9=yes Given there's a finite set of criteria (ten of them) that sounds good. It may be extended in future, which might be problematic for embedding