Brisway gets it right:
http://www.street-directory.com.au/sd_new/mapsearch.cgi?star=5&x=153.006352992&ftsSearch=quandeine%20st&y=-27.406181504&level=6&StateID=4
But welcome aboard :)
Steve
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Chris Barham wrote:
> Hi,
> I thought I'd share this story with the list
Hi,
I thought I'd share this story with the list:
The reason I'm getting into OpenStreetMap because of a frustration with
incorrect online maps.
I needed a map of a local park off Quandeine Street in Stafford, Qld and the
correct name is Keong Park
( See Brisbane City Council parks site for the a
I think the easiest way to do this would be to upload all points once
tags are sorted, and then fix them, I've reviewed quite a few now and
the location data is out on all of them, usually it points to the
middle of streets or roundabouts etc.
To make finding/fixing these points easier I added the
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Alex Kwiatkowski <
alex.kwiatkow...@nearmap.com> wrote:
> Which part is contradictory so a can give them a starting point.
>
"If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include
that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:39 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
> The 2 BP's along the Bruce Highway north of Brisbane aren't located
> properly either, it looks like they've simply used address to geo
> lookups and when the addresses are specific they co-ords go wonky,
> wonder if they want more accurate co
Hi John,
Which part is contradictory so a can give them a starting point.
Regards Alex Kwiatkowski
Email: alex.kwiatkow...@nearmap.com
Mobile: 0421 794 183
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2009/12/10 John Smith :
> Also I think some of the co-ords are way off, there is 2 BP locations
> in Carnarvon for example and when you zoom in on them there doesn't
> look to be a service station anywhere within the vicinity.
>
The 2 BP's along the Bruce Highway north of Brisbane aren't located
p
Also I think some of the co-ords are way off, there is 2 BP locations
in Carnarvon for example and when you zoom in on them there doesn't
look to be a service station anywhere within the vicinity.
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2009/12/10 Steve Bennett :
>> [26] => ATM
>>
>
> You could add a separate (or same?) amenity=atm (or whatever it is) point?
I added
Also if people have better suggestions for tag names I'm happy to
update the file, just the best ones I could think of at the time.
2009/12/10 Alex Kwiatkowski :
> I hope that clears it up for you guys and feel free to get in contact with
> me if you have any other queries.
You might want to get the legal dept. to sort out the contridictory
clause about owning the data and what license you must license it
under etc.
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I've just got a response from our legal team and this is what they say.
"We are always keen to clear up any uncertainties regarding derived works.
Our requirement is that derived works are availlable to others, using a
Creative Commons style license. In other words, we share the same approach
as O
>
>[26] => ATM
>
>
You could add a separate (or same?) amenity=atm (or whatever it is) point?
Steve
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Ok, getting back on topic, I spent a little time this morning
generating an OSM file that can be opened in JOSM.
For those curious/interested:
http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/BPtest.osm.bz2
I haven't included all fields, I left out the following:
[16] => Trailers
[17] => LPGBottle
I'm sure Alex is reading the list, but I am too :)
If there are concerns with our license, we'll work to address them - a key
goal of ours is to support OSM and that was a firm requirement when the
license was drafted.
Cheers
Ben
2009/12/9 James Livingston
> On 09/12/2009, at 6:38 PM, Roy Wall
2009/12/10 Sam Couter :
> People don't starve for a worldwide lack of food, they starve because the
> excess of food is in the wrong place, ie, not their belly. This is caused
> by world politics, corruption, local warlords, complete lack of central
> government in some places, etc, and the applica
John Smith wrote:
> As if the govt doesn't get enough tax already, and they get tax on top
> of tax when the GST kicks in.
The government gets *less* money from E10. Fuel excise is reduced and
its production is subsidised.
> Anyway, this is getting off topic,
Yes, but a near-incoherant rant is
John Smith wrote:
> The problem with E10 for most cars is it doesn't recognise the extra
> oxygen atom
Australian electronic fuel injection systems have O2 sensors, this isn't
a problem. The reduced energy of E10 compared to the same volume of petrol
is a problem, is basic physics, and can't be c
On 08/12/2009, at 12:27 AM, Nick Hocking wrote:
BTW, my new years resolution is to survey Gundagai. It's a total
discrace, It was traced and has never been visited and SURVEYED
properly.
I did some GPS traces of some streets in Gundagai in November, but I
haven't had the chance to add t
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:14:32 +1100
Sam Couter wrote:
> Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > Make sure if you are going to enter fuel information then you include all
> > types, (lpg, 91, 95, 98 octane, diesel, etc)
>
> More: Automotive LPG is different tax-wise from barbecue LPG and
> therefore sold and dis
On 09/12/2009, at 8:44 PM, John Smith wrote:
> 2009/12/9 James Livingston :
>> I'd suggest doing something like "import if there is not an existing
>> amenity=fuel within X distance, flag it for manual checking if there is".
>
> The only problem with that is where you get 2 or 3 service stations
On 09/12/2009, at 8:41 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:37 PM, James Livingston wrote:
> I'd suggest doing something like "import if there is not an existing
> amenity=fuel within X distance, flag it for manual checking if there is".
>
>
> Ah, didn't know that kind of thing w
2009/12/9 James Livingston :
> I'd suggest doing something like "import if there is not an existing
> amenity=fuel within X distance, flag it for manual checking if there is".
The only problem with that is where you get 2 or 3 service stations
close/next to each other.
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:37 PM, James Livingston wrote:
> I'd suggest doing something like "import if there is not an existing
> amenity=fuel within X distance, flag it for manual checking if there is".
>
>
Ah, didn't know that kind of thing was possible, cool.
Steve
On 09/12/2009, at 8:26 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Can we really maintain this? These services come and go fairly frequently.
Individual things like whether they have LPG filling for bbqs maybe, but servos
don't move that often (usually taken over by another one). In any case, it's
probably not g
2009/12/9 Steve Bennett :
> Can we really maintain this? These services come and go fairly frequently.
Just keep a list of nodes/ways and the location ID and it should be
trivial to keep up to date.
> Also, if you're doing a bulk import, how do you avoid double tagging
> existing servos?
You can
On 09/12/2009, at 6:38 PM, Roy Wallace wrote:
> "If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include
> that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute
> it to others under a Creative Commons licence."
>
> Does that not imply that the derived information may o
2009/12/9 Liz :
> give us some practical examples and we can go and visit our local BP servos
> and try to work out what "Other" is
AA Oakleigh 145.09 -37.88 5362162 - 168 Warrigal Rd Oakleigh
VIC 3166
AA Reservoir145.02 -37.72 372235 - 37 Gisborne Cres Reservoi
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:52 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
> "NAME","X","Y"," LocationNo"," Street"," Town"," State"," Postcode","
> Phone"," Unlead"," PremiumUnlead"," BPUltimate"," E10"," Diesel","
> Any_Autogas"," Hours_24"," Trailers"," LPGBottle"," Toilets","
> CarWash"," CleanGo"," SuperWash"," Oth
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote:
> Anyway, this is getting off topic, the fields from the BP are as
> following, most are binary fields (Y or N), no idea what the other
> field is for.
>
> "NAME","X","Y"," LocationNo"," Street"," Town"," State"," Postcode","
> Phone"," Unlead"," PremiumUnlead"
2009/12/9 Liz :
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Sam Couter wrote:
>> Ethanol is
>> for drinking and swindling motorists and governments out of some cash so
>> it should be noted for those of us who'd rather push the car than put E10
>> in it.
>
> I thought E10 was so I didn't have to pay a 30c per litre prem
2009/12/9 Sam Couter :
> and usually only sold during the winter months in alpine areas. Ethanol is
> for drinking and swindling motorists and governments out of some cash so
As if the govt doesn't get enough tax already, and they get tax on top
of tax when the GST kicks in.
Anyway, this is getti
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Sam Couter wrote:
> Ethanol is
> for drinking and swindling motorists and governments out of some cash so
> it should be noted for those of us who'd rather push the car than put E10
> in it.
I thought E10 was so I didn't have to pay a 30c per litre premium to put 95
octane fue
Steve Bennett wrote:
> don't like about Potlatch. I started with Potlatch, switched to JOSM, then
> went back to Potlatch. There weren't enough extra features in JOSM to
> justify using a separate app in offline mode, for my liking...
IMO there is one very important feature to be mentioned: The v
Ross Scanlon wrote:
> Make sure if you are going to enter fuel information then you include all
> types, (lpg, 91, 95, 98 octane, diesel, etc)
More: Automotive LPG is different tax-wise from barbecue LPG and
therefore sold and dispensed differently, sometimes you can refill your
own LPG bottle a
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote:
> Although. If CC-BY-SA isn't likely to stand in Australia for OSM
> it isn't likely to stand for anyone else either
If its good enough for the Au guvmint, who can afford lawyers, it is probably
protective in Au.
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You have had a long-term stimulat
2009/12/9 Liz :
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote:
>> Nearmap allows in their T&C's to derive data, the data is under the
>> license of the person deriving it chooses to release it under.
>>
>> The bigger issue was the AU Govt data, but that has fixed it self
>> since it was relicensed as cc-b
2009/12/9 Roy Wallace :
> Hmm...the following is from
> http://www.nearmap.com/legal/community-licence.aspx:
>
> "If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include
> that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute
> it to others under a Creative Commons lic
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, John Smith wrote:
> 2009/12/9 Roy Wallace :
>> If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the
>> legality of tracing from nearmap imagery?
>> Does it appear as though some contributions will have to be removed if The
>> License Change ha
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote:
> Nearmap allows in their T&C's to derive data, the data is under the
> license of the person deriving it chooses to release it under.
>
> The bigger issue was the AU Govt data, but that has fixed it self
> since it was relicensed as cc-by from cc-by-sa
but it
2009/12/9 Roy Wallace :
> If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the
> legality of tracing from nearmap imagery?
> Does it appear as though some contributions will have to be removed if The
> License Change happens?
> If so, what kind of contributions?
Nearmap allo
If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the
legality of tracing from nearmap imagery?
Does it appear as though some contributions will have to be removed if The
License Change happens?
If so, what kind of contributions?
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