Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-14 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > > I would have thought so, because afaik these rules are to reduce > traffic noise. Bicycles not being noisy, I would have thought they > weren't included. Maybe, but it's unclear... Anyone good at chasing down legal definitions of road sign

[talk-au] Interactive map of scale of Haiti earthquake

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Croft
Not strictly OSM, but worth a look to see the distribution and scale of the impact http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/haiti-earthquake/map.htm jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tol

Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > I don't know. What are you basing that on? Can you legally ride a bike > through a Local Traffic Only area? No idea, but I suspect not... I would have thought so, because afaik these rules are to reduce traffic noise. Bicycles not being noisy,

Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-14 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > > Logically, "access=destination" would apply to all forms of traffic. > So you should tag it "motor_vehicle=destination", right? I don't know. What are you basing that on? Can you legally ride a bike through a Local Traffic Only area? No i

Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-14 Thread cam_daw
I've played around with the alcohol relations a bit, changing the type of relation to site, rather than multipolygon. And have created a special relation for St Leonard's park, as it's weird. Alcohol free: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384684 Alcohol prohibited: http://www.openstree

Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > For roads with e.g. "Local Traffic Only" or "Through Traffic Keep > Right" signs, should these be tagged with: > > access=destination (as is, I understand, common practice), OR > vehicle=destination, OR something else? > > Apparently (says Davi

[talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-14 Thread Roy Wallace
For roads with e.g. "Local Traffic Only" or "Through Traffic Keep Right" signs, should these be tagged with: access=destination (as is, I understand, common practice), OR vehicle=destination, OR something else? Apparently (says DavidDean), Gosmore excludes roads tagged with access=destination whe

Re: [talk-au] Naming bridge on road

2010-01-14 Thread Steve Bennett
That relation proposal looks useful. I had one awkward situation recently where a bike path and a road cross a freeway together. But half way over the bridge, the bike path crosses the road (that is, switches from the right side to the left, by making a right angled crossing). Since both bike path

Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-14 Thread cam_daw
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 07:04 +1000, John Smith wrote: I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had > to leave, so well done... > > The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to > do the inner sections of St Leonards Park, when you have the outer > s

Re: [talk-au] Naming bridge on road

2010-01-14 Thread Stephen Hope
Often, if a bridge is named, I think it should be rendered. In Brisbane, for example, everybody knows the Storey Bridge. Hardly anybody recognises the name of the road that crosses it (which is no longer than the bridge plus ramps). If you were given directions in cross the river on the Story bri

[talk-au] Naming bridge on road

2010-01-14 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
Totally missed the Proposed Features as mentioned by Roy. I went with the "bridge_name=..." option, the reasoning being that the road goes over the bridge & therefore labelling the way that crosses the bridge with the bridge name is topologically incorrect. If you name the road section with the bri

[talk-au] Alcohol Free Zones

2010-01-14 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
This is exactly how I envisaged that it would be done - well done. Will use the same methodology for the Alcohol Free Zone in central Bendigo (when I get the chance). I decided tonight I might try and play around with alcohol-free zones > using a few relations using North Sydney as an example. > >

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 : > 1. mapping does exist in the first place which is stored off-site (ie > internationally) Yes, but up to date imagery gives allows us to create up to date maps, which gives emergency services better information so they can come up with better plans to deal with disasters and better p

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-14 Thread edodd
> 2010/1/14 Jim Croft : >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response >> http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ > > I'm not trying to detract from how badly off people are in Haiti... > but nothing like this occurred when Australia had tho

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] OSGeo booth at upcoming international Federation of Surveyor's conference?

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Cameron Shorter Date: 2010/1/15 Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] OSGeo booth at upcoming international Federation of Surveyor's conference? To: John Smith Cc: Jody Garnett , "aust...@lists.osgeo.org" John, We'd welcome OSM on the OSGeo stand if we get one.

Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 John Smith : > 2010/1/14  : >> As always, suggestions are welcome :) > > I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had > to leave, so well done... > > The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to > do the inner sections of St Leonards Park

Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/14 : > As always, suggestions are welcome :) I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had to leave, so well done... The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to do the inner sections of St Leonards Park, when you have the outer section of

Re: [talk-au] Naming bridge on a road

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 Liz : > I just put name=Whatever Bridge on the bridge section. > It'll be interesting to hear how others do this and if there are particular > reasons why. +1 I'm yet to find a roundabout name, so far I've left them all blank, even ones where there is no intersecting streets. _

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/14 Jim Croft : > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response > http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ I'm not trying to detract from how badly off people are in Haiti... but nothing like this occurred when Australia had those really

Re: [talk-au] date time formats

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/14 Jim Croft : > forgotten the context, but there was some chat a few weeks back on > standard date formats, date ranges. etc. > > this may be of interest: > http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/examples.html I think you are referring to the thread on opening hours, but this isn't simple d

Re: [talk-au] Naming bridge on a road

2010-01-14 Thread Roy Wallace
>From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge: "For the name of the bridge itself there are two proposals: bridge_name [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bridge_Name] and one using relations [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Bridges_and_Tunnels#Tags]";

Re: [talk-au] Naming bridge on a road

2010-01-14 Thread Liz
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: > I know I have seen a thread on this but I can't find it again. > I am wanting to name a bridge on a road. Current keys for the road are; > highway=unclassified > name=River Road > layer=1 > > For the bridge section I have added; > bridge=yes > layer=1

[talk-au] Naming bridge on a road

2010-01-14 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
I know I have seen a thread on this but I can't find it again. I am wanting to name a bridge on a road. Current keys for the road are; highway=unclassified name=River Road layer=1 For the bridge section I have added; bridge=yes layer=1 How do I capture the bridge name "Noel Tuohen Bridge"? Do I a

[talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-14 Thread cam_daw
I decided tonight I might try and play around with alcohol-free zones using a few relations using North Sydney as an example. Alcohol free: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384684 Alcohol prohibited: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384683 ("View relation on larger map" mak

[talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Croft
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tol

[talk-au] date time formats

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Croft
forgotten the context, but there was some chat a few weeks back on standard date formats, date ranges. etc. this may be of interest: http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/examples.html jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim