Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-10-05 Thread Warin
Please read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle It applies to the world. There is nothing Australian specific that I can see in your thoughts .. Nor can I see why ACT should be different from the rest of the world in how it maps bicycle infrastructure.

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-10-05 Thread Warin
On 06/10/19 09:47, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote: I apologise for the tone of the first post yesterday. I was a bit unwell. *** # The ATG proposed changes for paths in the ACT I have decided to write this as a proposal of changes to the ATG in the ACT (if any) and consideration of the

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-05 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 6/10/19 8:12 am, David Wales wrote: Why did he remove the bridge tag? I think he doesn't understand how to tag man_made=bridge because he took the bridge tags off the other ways as well: http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=69845883 ___

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-10-05 Thread Herbert.Remi via Talk-au
I apologise for the tone of the first post yesterday. I was a bit unwell. *** # The ATG proposed changes for paths in the ACT I have decided to write this as a proposal of changes to the ATG in the ACT (if any) and consideration of the consequences. For the paths found in the ACT, I will

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-05 Thread David Wales
So long as access and gates are correctly tagged, I can't see a reason not to map private roads. On 5 October 2019 8:34:59 pm AEST, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > >5 Oct 2019, 01:44 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: >> The problem here is that some raise the "not map the interiorprivate >roads in

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-05 Thread David Wales
Why did he remove the bridge tag? On 5 October 2019 8:16:35 pm AEST, Andrew Davidson wrote: >On 4/10/19 10:53 pm, Andy Townsend wrote: >> >> >https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1698#issuecomment-134914770 > >> > >Thanks for that. I hadn't realised there was yet another

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5 Oct 2019, 12:53 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > As I see it the options are; > > * Do not map. > * Map the entry only. > * Map it all. > There are some objects where not mapping them and removal of mapped objects is justifiable[1]. Maybe even hiding old entries in history. It is not one of

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-05 Thread Warin
On 05/10/19 20:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 5 Oct 2019, 01:44 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: The problem here is that some raise the "not map the interior private roads in detail" as not mapping them at all Are they not mapping them or also (incorrectly) deleting what others mapped? I

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5 Oct 2019, 01:44 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > The problem here is that some raise the "not map the interiorprivate roads in > detail" as not mapping them at all > Are they not mapping them or also  (incorrectly) deleting what others  mapped?___

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-05 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 4/10/19 10:53 pm, Andy Townsend wrote: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1698#issuecomment-134914770 Thanks for that. I hadn't realised there was yet another prioblem with using the path tag: highway=path bicycle=designated is currently rendered differently to

[talk-au] On the origin of path tags (Was: Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways)

2019-10-05 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 4/10/19 10:53 pm, Andy Townsend wrote: In places like Germany, however, dedicated infrastructure is more common, and there are usually signs telling you exactly what you are allowed to do.  As I understand it (and this was before my time, so this is largely hearsay) "cycleway" and

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-05 Thread Nemanja Bračko
Even I'm not from AU, I would recommend adding private roads, especially because we had a flood situation couple of years ago. In that time we were mapping buildings (for rescue teams) and all kind of trails or roads just to help people to escape flooded area. We didn't pay attention if it is

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-10-05 Thread Warin
On 05/10/19 10:03, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote: # Principle of tagging 1. Tagging should be consistent with the laws of the jurisdiction 2. Tagging should not be code but be explicit 3. Tagging should be useful 4. Tagging should be intuitive 5. Tagging should be easy (regional presets) I

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5 Oct 2019, 02:43 by mapp...@consebt.de: > Thinking of a delivery vehicle I am even considering if access=permissive > would be appropriate. > access=permissive is used in cases where everyone may enter, but owner may revoke access at any time ___

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

2019-10-05 Thread forster
Maybe add the tag norender=yes when the owner or responsible body requests that a feature not be rendered. This might apply to private property, illegal tracks on public land , military bases and more. It would be up to individual map renderers whether they would respect the norender