Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

Mmm, given the amount of bike edits they may be another wandrer.Earth user trying to game the system https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116654835#map=12/-31.9131/115.8548 From: Phil Wyatt Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2022 6:23 PM To: osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au; 'OSM-Au'

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

Seems to have it in for Perth cyclists: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116655265#map=12/-32.0362/115.8349 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/117224600 Not from Perth so can't judge correctness but it doesn't look right. On 2022-02-10 18:13, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aaronsta/history#map=3/-17.14/139.83 … would be my best guess, Certainly a few strange changeset comments there. Cheers - Phil From: osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2022 5:11 PM To: 'OSM-Au' Subject: Re: [talk-au]

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

Probably https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aaronsta Who is Aaronsta? Is it anyone participating in this mailing list? Have any of these changes been discussed somewhere? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Tagging_Guidelines

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

Seeing the large number of changes to the ATG being made in the last 2 days by Aaronsta , I got some questions. Who is Aaronsta? Is it anyone participating in this mailing list? Have any of these changes been discussed somewhere?

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

No argument at all from me! Just thinking of possible options :-) On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 11:55, Dian Ågesson wrote: > A further thought, > > Tagging permissions that open the road in certain times, rather than close > them, could also lead to better outcomes with less sophisticated routing >

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

A further thought, Tagging permissions that open the road in certain times, rather than close them, could also lead to better outcomes with less sophisticated routing software/offline connections. access=no access:conditional=yes @ (May-Nov) access:conditional= discouraged @ (Dec-Apr and

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

Hey Brendan, Graeme If we wanted to alleviate the explicitly conditional problem, you could combine the following: vehicle:conditional=discouraged @ (Dec-Apr "Impassable during wet season") vehicle:conditional=no @ (Dec-Apr and wet) By leaving it discouraged without further info gives

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

Thanks Graeme, I'll just tweak your brackets a little to be a valid tag: vehicle:conditional=no @ (Dec-Apr "Road is generally impassable during the wet season - seek local knowledge") My only feedback would be an explicit conditional=*no* should only be used if there's signage or other evidence

Re: [talk-au] OSM Notes

On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 13:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Changing subject from tracks for a minute :-), I was reading the weekly > Newsletter yesterday & spotted this article > https://www-openstreetmap-org.translate.goog/user/AngocA/diary/398423?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=EN&_x_tr_hl=en-GB, >

Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

Hi Folks, Thanks for the great discussion on this issue. I have tried to summarise the discussion and it seems like there is some consensus around the following tagging hiking_scale:awtgs= as the general tag for the grade of the WHOLE track as that is what is detailed in the AWTGS

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 08:25, wrote: > > The challenge with specifying months is the "wet"/"dry" season is it is > not always fixed. > True, but if we modify Brendan's suggestion a bit to: vehicle:conditional=no @ Dec-Apr ("Road is generally impassable during the wet season - seek local

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 22:35, OpenStreetMap Wiki < w...@noreply.openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > The OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been > changed on 9 February 2022 by Aaronsta, see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines for > the current

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

  The challenge with specifying months is the "wet"/"dry" season is it is not always fixed.  i.e. Lakefield National Park is not expected to open to June this year, and other roads in the area further north are closed till July. (Some didn't even open at all last year, but that was more to do

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

Yep opening_hours was approved for ways, and an example given was for summer-only roads https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:opening_hours#Voting_addon_.22way.22 Whilst opening_hours is popular on amenities, the tag really doesn't seem to get much usage on highway tags. Perhaps wrapping

Re: [talk-au] Betty's Burgers - fast food or restaurant?

Betty's Burgers & Concrete Co? I've eaten at the one on Clarence St and the one in Darling Harbour in Sydney (admittedly before *waves arms around* all of this, so a couple years ago). They're fast food with dine-in tables - order at the register. On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, at 10:06 PM, Mat Attlee

Re: [talk-au] Betty's Burgers - fast food or restaurant?

I’ve never been to one, but have been to something that looks similar according to the images I found. It appears that you order and pay for your food and then are given a buzzer and then fetch your food. Reading https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drestaurant , the absence of

Re: [talk-au] Betty's Burgers - fast food or restaurant?

You order and pickup at the counter On 9/2/22 22:06, Mat Attlee wrote: I am currently on holiday and stumbled upon the chain that is Betty's Burgers. I didn't go inside so could anyone tell me if these are restaurants or fast food outlets where you order at the counter? I've had a look at

[talk-au] Betty's Burgers - fast food or restaurant?

I am currently on holiday and stumbled upon the chain that is Betty's Burgers. I didn't go inside so could anyone tell me if these are restaurants or fast food outlets where you order at the counter? I've had a look at ones already mapped and they aren't tagged consistently. Happy to create an

Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

On 9/2/22 16:19, Ian Steer wrote: >> I prefer hiking_scale:awtgs= as you know that it is a hiking scale .. >> even if you don't know what awtgs is. >> >Fair comment. > >> Routes are a different problem while the worst one could be >> included .. what happens if/when things change?