Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-30 Thread Richard Colless
Thank you, John. I couldn't have expressed it better. Throughout this whole sorry story, I have only ever received ONE communication form OSM. It was a begging letter asking me to reconsider. If not for the discussion of the forum, I would not have even known about the licence change. AI think

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-30 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi Richard, Like or loathe the licence change, and the manner it has been pursued, sure. But I really don't think anyone in OSM has tried to keep the knowledge of the licence change quiet. I think a fair few people have been trying to get in touch with as many people as possible. I've personall

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-30 Thread Richard Colless
I did decline the new terms. And I was contacted, as I said, just once, by someone trying to persuade me to change my mind. My point was that OSM never contacted me to say that a licence change was being considered. That is hardly the right way to go about making a major change to the system.

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-30 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi Richard, There are a couple of hundred thousand registered members of OSM, and much effort has gone into contacting those who are genuinely out of touch. There are around 25 Australian contributors who have declined, and all of them are fairly significant contributors. They went to the same si

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Simon Poole
Richard while IMHO communications in OSM and out of OSM leave much to desire, in the case of the licence change there has been a substantial amount of communication to the mappers. The only reason I can see for you -not- getting a mail from the OSMF early on, is that you must have practically imm

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Colless
No! Wrong! I've never actually declined at all. I have just never accepted the new CT's. I didn't decline because I wasn't asked. From my point of view, there wasn't _*any*_ communication directly with the mappers. I knew about the changes *only *because I am on the Talk-Au list. OSM never c

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Richard Colless wrote: > No!  Wrong! > > I've never actually declined at all. I have just never accepted the new > CT's. I didn't decline because I wasn't asked. From my point of view, there > wasn't any communication directly with the mappers. [ ... ] The intent

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Richard Colless wrote: > I followed the discussion with much interest, and only decided not to accept > the new CT's when I observed the rudeness with which the objections were > handled. The recent spate of correspondence has done nothing to make me > reconsider.

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Colless
On 1/04/2012 10:08 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Richard Colless wrote: I followed the discussion with much interest, and only decided not to accept the new CT's when I observed the rudeness with which the objections were handled. The recent spate of correspondence h

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Richard Colless wrote: > I'm not taking out any resentment on anybody. I'm simply choosing not to > participate. So don't say that I'm hurting anybody.. I'm quite happy for any > of my data to remain. If someone else chooses to delete it, blame them for > any hur

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Colless
On 1/04/2012 2:16 PM, Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Richard Colless wrote: I'm not taking out any resentment on anybody. I'm simply choosing not to participate. So don't say that I'm hurting anybody.. I'm quite happy for any of my data to remain. If someone else choo

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Richard Colless wrote: > As to your suggestions: >    My e-mail address has remained the same for the last 15 years or so >    I run several junk filters, and check their contents for incorrect > diversions before I delete them > > Any other guesses? Your screen

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-04-01 Thread waldo000...@gmail.com
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > But I think declining the CTs is taking out your resentment on the wrong > people. > By not allowing your contributions to be part of OSM, you mostly hurt > the people for whom we're all doing this: the wider open content > community, and all