Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-19 Thread Simon Poole
I believe these are the same paragraphs in CC BY 2.0 and 3.0, but in any case you need to check the licence text as particularly in the case of AUS the licences are sometimes customized and the numbering may have changed. Simon On 17.03.2017 22:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks everyone

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
Huge thank you Simon, and those who helped out with this! The cover is a great summary we can pass on to rights holders and the form to be signed appears to provide legal rigour for organisations to grant the additional rights required. On 18 March 2017 at 06:46, Simon Poole

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks everyone for your input here - it's all getting very hard :-( Simon, thanks for the info re the "official" position. That page mentions "a similar document for obtaining the necessary waivers for the 2.0 and 3.0 versions of CC BY

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-17 Thread Simon Poole
See https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ for our (LWG) position. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
I completely agree with you that the blanket data.gov.au permission doesn't sit right, and we should be getting the source agency to grant additional terms to their license that attribution can be done on the Contributors wiki page. On 16 March 2017 at 09:33, Andrew Davidson

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
I think even if you're manually importing, it's still importing and it's helpful if it's discussed here first. Working out what tags to bring across is top of mind. On 16 Mar 2017 4:57 PM, "Graeme Fitzpatrick" wrote: > Hi > > re: "I'm interested to know which datasets

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Have been reading those old threads - what a bunfight! :-( Thanks Graeme On 16 March 2017 at 08:33, Andrew Davidson wrote: > Sigh...I was hoping that no-one would ever re-open the data.gov.au > permission can of worms. > > The general view is that to use CC-BY data in OSM

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi re: "I'm interested to know which datasets you plan to import, your mapping of the tags, and the process you'll use (will you manually merge existing objects?)" Importing datasets is WAY above my level of skill!!! If we're able to make use of this data (stay tuned!), I myself would

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-15 Thread Andrew Davidson
Sigh...I was hoping that no-one would ever re-open the data.gov.au permission can of worms. The general view is that to use CC-BY data in OSM we need explicit permission from the *rights holder* (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility). data.gov.au is a dataset

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-15 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, at 05:38 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > G'day all > > A while back, mentioned about using Gold Coast City Council data. > > Been too many other things going on to contact them, but just looked into it again & found this new page:

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
G'day all A while back, mentioned about using Gold Coast City Council data. Been too many other things going on to contact them, but just looked into it again & found this new page: http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/open-data-access-project-21818.html Could some clever person please translate it

[talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks everyone for your thoughts! I'll have a look at the data.gov.au info when I have a chance (& can figure out how to open a KMZ file! :-() Will also get in touch with GCCC re authorisation. Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, at 05:10 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Gold Coast City Council have (fairly) recently set up an online city plan:  > http://cityplanmaps.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/CityPlan/, which shows planning > zones etc as well as street names. Have you taken a look at the open data they

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Thread Ralph Aytoun
Hi all, I have to disagree with the idea that you can use this material. It is very explicitly “under copyright” and that copyright is clearly not compatible with Openstreetmap “open” policy. No CEO of the Council will have the authority to give “permission” to use their data as the CEO

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Thread Ross
Basically no unless you have explicit approval from Gold Coast Council. It has more to do with osm user conditions than whether or not GCC licence is compatible. It's the section that says something like "you own the data or have explicit permission to use it". If the data licence was

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, at 05:10 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > So, how about that one, can we use it? No, the license you quoted is too restrictuve and doesn't allow including data in OSM. > Has anybody ever dealt with GCCC re access to their data? Any luck? > May be a letter to the CEO asking

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Thread Andrew Davidson
You may reproduce the contents of this website in your web browser (and in any cache file produced by your web browser) for the sole purpose of viewing the content. Good gravy. I've seen some stoopid terms and conditions but really? You're granting me the right to render your website for the

[talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
G'day all Been mapping on & off for a few years now but have recently got into it more actively due to having more time available. Mainly working around the Gold Coast / SEQ but occasionally further afield as well. Have only just found the talk list & forum, & have read quite a few threads re