Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Stéphane Guillou via Talk-au
I am not local, but just my two cents: I agree with Andrew that such specific state-wide rules (or exceptions to the rules) should be tagged as a single regional default, and highway features should have generic tags (unless there are relevant signage and routes, obviously), especially since

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
> (Personally I do have a whole bunch of country, state and even > county-specific adaptions for cycle.travel's routing, but I'm very aware > that I'm the outlier. And I've never even heard of "def:*" tags.) > For example https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2316593 has

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Harvey wrote: > Well your router would need to look up the specific default whether > that's something in the routing engine configuration, pulled from > the OSM wiki, or pulled from the Victoria state relation def:* tags. With the best will in the world, that's not going to happen. I can

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/04/2022 06:31, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 14:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 12:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: I think this is getting too much into mapping regulations, we could just have no bicycle tag and leave it to data

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-07 Thread stevea
On Apr 7, 2022, at 10:31 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Well your router would need to look up the specific default whether that's > something in the routing engine configuration, pulled from the OSM wiki, or > pulled from the Victoria state relation def:* tags. Right, I agree: that's part of the

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 14:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 12:50, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> >> I think this is getting too much into mapping regulations, we could just >> have no bicycle tag and leave it to data consumers to apply the regional >> defaults. >> > >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-07 Thread stevea
On Apr 7, 2022, at 9:53 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I think this is getting too much into mapping regulations, we could just have > no bicycle tag and leave it to data consumers to apply the regional defaults. > > What would that do to bike routing? There is bicycle infrastructure tagging

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 12:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I think this is getting too much into mapping regulations, we could just > have no bicycle tag and leave it to data consumers to apply the regional > defaults. > What would that do to bike routing? Thanks Graeme

[talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 07:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 17:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bicycles are allowed on footpaths in Victoria . . . >> > > Which, to me, means that all footpaths should be bike=yes, as "some" > people are allowed to ride on