Re: [talk-ph] Nodes vs. Areas in the Garmin map

2010-08-11 Thread maning sambale
Yes that is correct and I am doing that for other POIs like amenity=parking. The problem is that there is no direct poly hex assignment for amenity=place_of_worship. Suggestions welcome. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... doesn't mkgmap's

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-08-11 Thread Ben Laenen
Ivo De Broeck wrote: With 2 relations you can put the stops at the right relation. If you work with one relation you have a way in both directions, a stop 'forward' and a stop 'backward' . You could fill in the roles of those nodes in the relation of course. I've even seen the bus stop nodes

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-08-11 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Le mercredi 11 août 2010 à 13:26, Ben Laenen a écrit : You could fill in the roles of those nodes in the relation of course. I've even seen the bus stop nodes being numbered, so you'd get something like stop_15 as a role. The number was used before API0.6, when relations didn't preserve

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Two questions to LWG

2010-08-11 Thread TimSC
Hi LWG, cc legal-talk I noticed that the wording on the relicensing web page has not been updated [1]. I expressed my concern that the PD wording is rather vague. According to the LWG minutes, you are already have people using it. Aren't you going to address this? Now the LWG have decided

[OSM-talk] Kyrgyzstan - looking for Russian speaking people

2010-08-11 Thread Frédéric Bonifas
Hi, Thanks to the ICRC, I have a map (pictures of a paper map) of Bazar-Korgon with about 300 POIs. These are written in Russian and I unfortunately don't speak this language. Would someone be interested in getting them integrated into OSM ? Thanks in advance -- Frédéric Bonifas +33672652807

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

2010-08-11 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:49:48PM -0400, Anthony wrote: Maybe the idea started out well. Using CC-BY-SA isn't consistent across different jurisdictions, so we want a ShareAlike license which Make that a You or I I dont want/need share-alike -

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-11 Thread Jaak Laineste
2010/8/10 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jaak Laineste jaak.laine...@gmail.com wrote: I like this test because it will make things easy. No fuzzy shades of grey like some Richard is suggesting. Can you give an example of a thing that is done by a human being and

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Peter Körner
Am 10.08.2010 23:04, schrieb Liz: On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Ian Dees wrote: 'Poison' is opinion. I regard these efforts as attempted censorship take this back to legal-talk where it belongs don't reply to poisonous posts censorship would it be if posts were deleted (or not filtered on the ML

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

2010-08-11 Thread 80n
Thanks to everyone who offered me spare accounts. I now have more than I need. If anyone else needs one please ask. 80n On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:34 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a spare / unused OSM account that was created before the new Contributor Terms were

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

2010-08-11 Thread 80n
Thanks to everyone who offered me their spare accounts. I now have more than I need. If anyone wants one just ask. 80n On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:34 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a spare / unused OSM account that was created before the new Contributor Terms were

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Dave F.
On 11/08/2010 12:24, Peter Körner wrote: Am 10.08.2010 23:04, schrieb Liz: On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Ian Dees wrote: 'Poison' is opinion. I regard these efforts as attempted censorship take this back to legal-talk where it belongs don't reply to poisonous posts censorship would it be if posts were

[OSM-talk] The License Change

2010-08-11 Thread 80n
Steve Coast has observed that there is dissent in the community. What he ignored was the cause. The elephant in the room is obviously the license change. It's inevitable that there will be disagreement about anything to do with licensing. If not handled correctly then it will poison the

Re: [OSM-talk] The License Change

2010-08-11 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El día Wednesday 11 August 2010 14:43:26, 80n dijo: [...] Whichever way the vote goes there will inevitably be a fork in the project. Let's get this dirty business resolved as quickly as possible so that we can all go back to doing what we love as quickly as possible. +1. The sooner we get

Re: [OSM-talk] The License Change

2010-08-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Körner wrote: Okay, then let's collect the different possible answers: - I don't mind, let the LWG do what they need to. - I want ODbL - I want ODbL without relicensing clause - I don't want ODbL but will accept it if the license change takes place anyway - I don't want ODbL and

Re: [OSM-talk] The License Change

2010-08-11 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El día Wednesday 11 August 2010 15:09:25, Frederik Ramm dijo: - I'm beyond caring now but I support ODbL becauseI want to kick the ass of obnoxious obstructionists whom I have spent far too much time listening to. Oops, was that poisonous? BAN FREDERIK!!!1!!1!one -- Iván Sánchez Ortega

Re: [OSM-talk] The License Change

2010-08-11 Thread John Smith
2010/8/11 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: El día Wednesday 11 August 2010 15:09:25, Frederik Ramm dijo: - I'm beyond caring now but I support ODbL becauseI want to kick the ass of obnoxious obstructionists whom I have spent far too much time listening to. Oops, was that poisonous?

[OSM-talk] OpenJUMP supports live GPS with OSM data now

2010-08-11 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi, OpenJUMP GIS (http://openjump.org/) is about to get a brand new live GPS extension. I did some testing with the rc4 version and wrote some lines with screen captures into https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=GPS_plugin Some features: - Unlike GPSD based

Re: [OSM-talk] The License Change

2010-08-11 Thread Lester Caine
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El día Wednesday 11 August 2010 14:43:26, 80n dijo: [...] Whichever way the vote goes there will inevitably be a fork in the project. Let's get this dirty business resolved as quickly as possible so that we can all go back to doing what we love as quickly as

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-11 Thread Robert Kaiser
Anthony schrieb: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: As Matt noted, there's a growing legal opinion that our current data is in fact in the PD, as the CC-BY-SA can't be legally applied to it. Is that the state you want to have in the future? Better than it

Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat?

2010-08-11 Thread Komяpa
Hi, 2010/7/30 Tomas Straupis tomasstrau...@gmail.com: Hello Is anybody else experiencing landsat problems in JOSM? For about three days now landsat images are not available to JOSM. http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/ says something about evil „repetitive requests for non-cached, small WMS

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Mapping/Naming mountain ranges, valleys, other geographic areas

2010-08-11 Thread Shalabh
Thanks a ton, will take this forward. The Stavanger transformation on OSM is an inspiration, I hope to improve my hometown's situation to a similar extent. :) Cheers On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Gorm E. Johnsen osml...@gorm.cc wrote: Shalabh 1. As someone aptly described us, we are a

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
What are your ideas? How should we block people? For how long? What process should it be? What are the best practices from other projects you're involved in? agree 99% with all of this posting and the only part is this. osm has open in the name and there is no need to block people.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenJUMP supports live GPS with OSM data now

2010-08-11 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Am 11.08.2010 15:34, schrieb Jukka Rahkonen: Some features: - Unlike GPSD based solutions like JOSM livegps plugin, OpenJUMP GPS extension works with Windows Gpsd/JOSM livegps does work on windows (you need cygwin, but it works) -- Dirk-Lüder Deelkar Kreie Bremen - 53.0901°N 8.7868°E

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Al Haraka
Steve, On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:26 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I plan only to moderate people (for 24 hours) after taking a poll of key people including Andy Allan, Matt Amos, Katie Filbert, Tom Hughes, Emilie Laffray, Frederik Ramm, Ivan Sanchez, Grant Slater and Richard Weait. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:22:22AM -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: What are your ideas? How should we block people? For how long? What process should it be? What are the best practices from other projects you're involved in? agree 99% with all of this posting and the only part is this.

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-08-11 11:26, SteveC wrote: ...Any moderation will be announced to those people I just mentioned, and not publicly. Why not publicly? On balance, it seems better to not call out individuals publicly which might only make things worse and make them feel more upset, which is not the

Re: [OSM-talk] The License Change

2010-08-11 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
+1 P.D.: I want ODbL without the relicensing clause. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 11.08.2010 14:43, schrieb 80n: There needs to be an immediate vote, open to the whole community Okay, then let's collect the different possible answers: - I

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Peter Körner
Am 11.08.2010 00:17, schrieb TimSC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_bureaucracy But where did it lead to? Random deletions in wp/de? That's not where OSM should go... Peter ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Peter Körner
Am 11.08.2010 20:56, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: Several people yesterday mentioned and requested a Code of Conduct. I have a draft of what several of us at OSM US were working on at: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcschwqz_36cgv47g88 This is a draft that was never voted on and needs revision,

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:26 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:        • If you've made your point already, you don't need to tell us all again Not sure how that's supposed to work. If someone on the list asks a question that's already been asked by someone else and answered, or expresses a

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
I think I figured out what's been specifically bugging me about this. When I joined OSM about eight months ago, I knew vaguely that there was a license change process going on, and assumed the OSMF knew what they were doing. (I still think they know, but I now have concerns about what they're

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:26 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I have posted Andy's draft etiquette to the wiki        http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette I've edited the new etiquette page as well, please improve it. I also like the Ubuntu Code of Conduct derived documents.

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Peter Körner
Am 11.08.2010 21:45, schrieb Nathan Edgars II: So the older folks are getting annoyed with the threads. I admit that I'm starting to get annoyed too. But we have to remember that people are just joining now and don't have the same knowledge that we have. I believe the LWG is doing a great

Re: [OSM-talk] Shameless Promotion/New OSM Renderer

2010-08-11 Thread pavithran
On 12 August 2010 00:45, John Harvey j...@johnharveyphoto.com wrote: Hey! I'm one of the many people who make offline maps for the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch.  I charge for my products but for a limited time, I'm making one (Atlanta) free: I am more shameless to ask if you can make one for India

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: So the newbies have chosen to join this mailing list, so they at least have seen the list of mailinglists. Why didn't they join legal? or dev= because they're not interested in those topics, they have enough to do with

Re: [OSM-talk] Shameless Promotion/New OSM Renderer

2010-08-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
John, John Harvey wrote: * No code past planet.osm was written by Frederick Ramm. ;) I think failed to parse that sentence. What exactly is the connection between myself and your renderer? Do I get royalties? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Steve, SteveC wrote: I plan only to moderate people (for 24 hours) after taking a poll of key people including Andy Allan, Matt Amos, Katie Filbert, Tom Hughes, Emilie Laffray, Frederik Ramm, Ivan Sanchez, Grant Slater and Richard Weait. If you think more than these would be good then let me

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Liz
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Simon Ward wrote: I see two problems in the threads so far: * The dissenters keep repeating themselves, with the same arguments already discussed to death This doesn’t help with: * The dissenters have some real issues that people keep ignoring or

Re: [OSM-talk] Shameless Promotion/New OSM Renderer

2010-08-11 Thread John Harvey
Sorry - I was trying to be funny. The point was there is no code in my renderer or data pipeline written by you or anyone else but me. For instance I don't use Osm2pgsql, Osmosis, Mapnik or Osmarender. Generally a standard gets stronger the more independent implementations there are.

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 11 August 2010 20:22:22 Apollinaris Schoell wrote: the real question is how to move forward as fast as possible and get the whole license discussion out of our mind. As several asked already let's open the vote for old accounts to dual license and get a strong vote for a license.

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Liz
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: I think we can easily accept loosing a handful of poisonous people because all others will spend less time dealing with them and be more productive. sure some will continue but then it's definitely time to think about blocking them. This is

Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?

2010-08-11 Thread pavithran
On 15 July 2010 19:07, Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu wrote: of course that will happen in the next weeks but shouting like this isn't gonna motivate people i guess... pavithran wrote: yes, both tracks will be recorded. Could some one please take time to upload the videos ! Also those

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Tim McNamara
On 12 August 2010 00:26, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: But Steve C. is going on about banning people purely for posting more messages than others, *even* if they're are on topic. This is unacceptable. No, it's not. If someone is being really difficult, then they distract everybody.

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread steve brown
Hey As BFDL, do you still want a Code of Conduct, or does your wiki page suffice? I'm happy to abandon it and get back to coding if it's not needed in the new system of dictatorship (which I support). I've updated it to merge in various changes suggested by people, and especially lots of stuff

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:29 PM, steve brown st...@evolvedlight.co.uk wrote: Hey As BFDL, do you still want a Code of Conduct, or does your wiki page suffice? I'm happy to abandon it and get back to coding if it's not needed in the new system of dictatorship (which I support). I've updated

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread SteveC
I agree with all Andy said. Steve stevecoast.com On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:29 PM, steve brown st...@evolvedlight.co.uk wrote: Hey As BFDL, do you still want a Code of Conduct, or does your wiki page suffice? I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Simon Ward
Post count was one metric in the video SteveC linked yesterday. I don't think using that as the sole measure of a contributor would be reasonable. That wasn’t the sole metric in the video, and neither did I think Steve suggested that it should be _the_ metric either. I can see that people

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:05:25AM +0100, Andy Allan wrote: self control common sense advice from peers guidelines policies 'official' warnings interventions backstop What we've come to recently is the final five steps have been pretty much non-existent, and things have broken down

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Dave F.
On 11/08/2010 22:20, Liz wrote: I wrote about censorship, and this is the aim at this point, as I see it. +1 (touché Liz :-) ) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 11.08.2010 20:26, schrieb SteveC: Despite the discussion resulting from my post yesterday, there continue to be individuals on the talk@ mailing list disrupting the community. Well, who is really disrupting the community?!? People like John Smith with a usually high volume output, or the

[OSM-talk] American Samoa road data

2010-08-11 Thread Richard (Abe) Coughlin
The road layer in American Samoa has several problems: Firstly the bulk of it is misaligned; secondly some of it is replicated (ie some roads occur twice and the second layer appears to be in the correct location); and thirdly there are some nodes that are way out of place. How do I go about

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-11 Thread Simon Ward
You guys obviously didn't read Steve C's post at 10/08/2010 19:13. Please read the full thread before posting. Err, would that be the one where he merely said “interesting statistics” and didn’t state any conclusion? Simon -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Dave F.
On 12/08/2010 00:20, Ulf Lamping wrote: Am 11.08.2010 20:26, schrieb SteveC: Despite the discussion resulting from my post yesterday, there continue to be individuals on the talk@ mailing list disrupting the community. Well, who is really disrupting the community?!? People like John Smith

[OSM-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-11 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: As several asked already let's open the vote for old accounts to dual license and get a strong vote for a license. The vote is at http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms You're only allowed to vote yes, though.

Re: [OSM-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-11 Thread Sam Vekemans
hi, after checking the 'in addition make pd' box, is there a way to 'uncheck' that box if we change are mind at a later date? say, if i discover more information that would make me change my mind. (i can with google photos, as an example) thanks, sam ps, great work everyone involved :-) On

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:48 -0600, SteveC wrote: I agree on the transparency, but like you I'm not sure how to do it thought the way you outline is reasonable. Anyone know how other projects do it? How did subversion do it? most lists where this has been necessary announce the fact on the list

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Foppe Benedictus
Oi oi, mag ik dan ook wensen dat er een pagina komt voor de wandelnetwerken? Ik weet eigenlijk niet hoeveel daarvan is, maar in Twente hebben we er 1 in ieder geval ;), deze hebben neem ik aan dezelfde tagging schema als de fietsroutes. Overigens denk ik dat het overzicht voor de LF routes

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Foppe Benedictus
Oi oi, even iets anders; zullen we de knooppuntennetwerken qua naam op lijn zetten? Op dit moment zijn er grofweg 4 vormen: FRN, Fietsroutenetwerk, alleen de naam en overige (CCN, FKPsysteem). Voor de vindbaarheid lijkt me alleen de naam het makkelijkst. Door het schema weten we wel dat het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [tagging] Outside seating at a cafe or bar

2010-08-11 Thread Martijn van Exel
Eigenlijk niet zo goed. Wat wij in Nederland een terras noemen heeft volgens mij geen algemeen begrepen tegenhanger in het Engels. Outside seating wordt veel gebruikt in de VS, en is zo algemeen dat ik het een goede kandidaat vind voor een terrastag in OSM. Een Biergarten is vziw een

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Foppe Benedictus
Ik ben al zo bijdehand geweest om de namen te wijzigen. On 11-08-10 15:22, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Voorstel: Zullen we de fiets/wandel knooppunten met de naam van het netwerk taggen.. Dus name = Rotterdam RCN 35 bijvoorbeeld Dit lijkt me duidelijkheid niet

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread René Affourtit
2010/8/11 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: Voorstel: Zullen we de fiets/wandel knooppunten met de naam van het netwerk taggen.. Dus  name = Rotterdam RCN 35  bijvoorbeeld Nee. Waar ga je de bestaande namen laten dan? Ik weet zo een tiental knopen die op een

[OSM-talk-nl] paalkamperen

2010-08-11 Thread Rob
Weer een leuke tagging uitdaging of niet ;) tourism=camp_site impromptu=yes ? http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=V82TRUH0 ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Misschien kan je de bijdehandjes even laten wachten op het eind van de discussie ? Zoveel schade is er niet aangebracht op een paar voorbeeld nodes. Argumenten voor zijn er genoeg: - Er staat echt een bord met een naam ! - We spreken ook over een punt met een knooppunt naam ; spreekt de burger

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Ook jij hebt dus behoefte aan aanvullende info blijkens je waypoints. Die name is echt niet zo gek, anders dan dat die er nog niet is afgesproken. Alternatief kan dus zijn dat we JOSM zo gek krijgen om ook de refs van de knooppunten weer te geven, maar je begrijpt er zijn tig veel soorten POI

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Lennard
On 11-8-2010 20:30, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Misschien kan je de bijdehandjes even laten wachten op het eind van de discussie ? Dan heb je geen discussie, maar eenn ja-knikkersmonoloog. Argumenten voor zijn er genoeg: - Er staat echt een bord met een naam ! En

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Lennard
On 11-8-2010 20:33, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Alternatief kan dus zijn dat we JOSM zo gek krijgen om ook de refs van de knooppunten weer te geven, maar je begrijpt er zijn tig veel soorten POI die best een icoon willen in JOSM. Daarom zou het goed zijn om in je

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Als ik begreep wat je bedoelde,:)) Die ticket editor is voor mij onwerkbaar.. Je krijgt altijd onbeleefd commentaar van eigen gelijk overtuigde programmeurs, die altijd wel een shortcut kunnen ophoesten dat hetzelfde kan, maar die je nooit kan reproduceren. Gert -Oorspronkelijk

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Lennard , analoog aan je argumenten om de borden geen name te geven kunnen we ook alle woonplaatsen van zuid holland in een relatie opnemen, en alle cafés, en alle andere geoverwante POI. Waarom makkelijk als het moeilijk kan. Hee, dat bord staat er fysiek, net als het cafe, ik zie

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Roeland Douma
Wat spreek je jezelf heerlijk tegen. Als OSM zo open is dan kan dus iedereen tags weggooien en niet alleen jij. En een ieder kan dat doen ook discussie, voor de discussie, tijdens de discussie etc. Het bord heeft geen naam. Het netwerk heeft een naam. Of zet jij ook name=A4 op de Rijksweg A4?

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Wimmel
Als aanvulling op de discussie wil ik vermelden dat in delen van Gelderland wel degelijk knooppunten bestaan met een naam. Zie als voorbeeld deze foto (in Duitsland): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/a/a0/Emmerich_knotenpunkt_3_info.JPG Zie de bijbehorende node hier:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Lennard
On 11-8-2010 23:17, Wimmel wrote: Als aanvulling op de discussie wil ik vermelden dat in delen van Gelderland wel degelijk knooppunten bestaan met een naam. Wat dus keihard botst met het idee van Gert. In het algemeen lijkt het me beter om de tag name= te gebruiken voor zaken die iemand in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Lennard
On 11-8-2010 22:11, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Lennard , analoog aan je argumenten om de borden geen name te geven kunnen we ook alle woonplaatsen van zuid holland in een relatie opnemen, en alle cafés, en alle andere geoverwante POI. Waarom makkelijk als het moeilijk

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 11 August 2010 12:01:24 René Affourtit wrote: Het gaat niet zozeer om checks, maar een up to date en compleet overzicht. Mijn vraag die het triggerde: is er al een relatie voor de Rijndelta route. Als je die relatie vindt of aanmaakt dan kun je daar ook het deel van de LF4 tussen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread Lennard
On 11-8-2010 12:01, René Affourtit wrote: Mijn vraag die het triggerde: is er al een relatie voor de Rijndelta route. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/23491 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/61898 -- Lennard ___ Talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Het bord heeft geen naam. Het netwerk heeft een naam. Naam + nummer is een unique identifier = name Er is al een soort relatie die alle cafe's , woonplaatsen, etc in Zuid Holland. Dat is namelijk de administrative grens van Zuid-Holland (welke ook een relatie is overigens). De

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
On 11-8-2010 23:17, Wimmel wrote: Als aanvulling op de discussie wil ik vermelden dat in delen van Gelderland wel degelijk knooppunten bestaan met een naam. Wat dus keihard botst met het idee van Gert. En nu dus ook in Rotterdam !! Name = Rotterdam RCN 33 In het algemeen

[Talk-br] Öpnvkarte

2010-08-11 Thread Bráulio Bezerra da Silva
Para quem mexe com as rotas de ônibus / trens / metrôs, o Öpnvkarte agora cobre o mundo inteiro: http://öpnvkarte.de/ http://xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br

Re: [Talk-br] Öpnvkarte

2010-08-11 Thread Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
Muito legal, não conhecia... Quando se tem uma renderização temática como essa, o trabalho feito sobre assunto aparece - a primeira coisa que eu procurei foi verificar o trabalho que o Arlindo tem feito com rotas de ônibus no Rio - legal mesmo. 2010/8/11 Bráulio Bezerra da Silva

Re: [Talk-br] Öpnvkarte

2010-08-11 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Finalmente \o/ http://xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/?zoom=11lat=-22.91712lon=-43.31429layers=BT Um dos trampos que eu tenho que fazer é continuar a importação das ferrovias do IPP para criar as rotas de trem direito. Até o final do ano eu faço isso... []s Em 11 de agosto de 2010 08:09, Claudomiro

Re: [Talk-br] Öpnvkarte

2010-08-11 Thread Alexandre Parente Lima
Acho que não cobre mais Em 11 de agosto de 2010 10:14, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com escreveu: Finalmente \o/ http://xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/?zoom=11lat=-22.91712lon=-43.31429layers=BT Um dos trampos que eu tenho que fazer é continuar a importação das ferrovias do IPP

[Talk-br] Ajuda com boundaries

2010-08-11 Thread Rafael Gassner
Olá pessoal, Estou precisando de uma ajuda para criar uma relação de boundaries de dois bairros que estão encostados (usando o JOSM). Trecho compartilhado: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/72011875 Bairro A: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/72011876 Bairro B:

Re: [Talk-de] Tag access = designated kann was bedeuten?

2010-08-11 Thread Steffen Wolf
Hi Tom Müller, eine weitere Frage die bei mir aufkam bezieht sich auf das Tag access = designated. Du fragst zwar nach der Dokumentation, ich antworte aber mal zur Benutzung: Wenn's von mir ist, dann ist es sicher ein Schreibfehler und sollte access=destination lauten. Ich hab ohnehin erst

[Talk-de] OSM in KDE 4.5.0

2010-08-11 Thread Pascal Neis
Hi, als Info. Gestern bei heise.de: KDE 4.5.0 stabiler und mit mehr Funktionen Größte Neuerung ist Routingapp mit #OSM und #ORS ... http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/KDE-4-5-0-stabiler-und-mit-mehr-Funktionen-1053029.html viele gruesse pascal

[Talk-de] öpnvkarte.de noch aktiv?

2010-08-11 Thread Jonas Stein
Hallo, den gerenderten Haeusern nach muss die Karte schon fast ein viertel Jahr alt sein. Ist die Seite eigentlich noch aktiv? Konnte weder Betreiber darauf finden, noch einen Hinweis zur Lizenz sehen. Welche Seite rendert Buslinien derzeit am schnellsten? Gruesse, -- Jonas Stein

Re: [Talk-de] öpnvkarte.de noch aktiv?

2010-08-11 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Hallo Jonas, den gerenderten Haeusern nach muss die Karte schon fast ein viertel Jahr alt sein. Ist die Seite eigentlich noch aktiv? Konnte weder Betreiber darauf finden, noch einen Hinweis zur Lizenz sehen. Auf der Seite einfach mal nach unten scrollen? (Du wärst nicht der Erste, der das

Re: [Talk-de] Breitband Versorgung aufnehmen ?

2010-08-11 Thread Jonas Stein
Die Bandbreite haengt sehr stark von der Technik des Netzanbieters ab und davon, wieviele Kunden schon an der Leitung angeschlossen sind. Es ist also keine Eigenschaft, die in eine Landkarte gehoert. Wenn ueberhaupt koennte man den Verlauf von Glasfaser und Kupfer in der Erde mappen. Ohne

Re: [Talk-de] Breitband Versorgung aufnehmen ?

2010-08-11 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo, Jonas Stein schrieb: Die Bandbreite haengt sehr stark von der Technik des Netzanbieters ab und davon, wieviele Kunden schon an der Leitung angeschlossen sind. Das ist richtig! Und gerade deshalb fände ich die Info als Overlay schon interessant! Es ist also keine Eigenschaft, die

Re: [Talk-de] Animierte Gifs

2010-08-11 Thread Steffen Wolf
Hi Jacques Nietsch, wenn man Tracks hochlädt, findet man im Web (z.B. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jacques_N/traces/765574) hübsche animierte Gifs. Ach, die sind animiert?! Ich muss wohl doch ab und zu mal einen anderen Browser verwenden ... stw -- Then what is good way of sayink:

[Talk-de] Rettungswache

2010-08-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! wie würdet Ihr eine Rettungswache taggen - keine Feuerwehrstation ! Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Grenzen: multipolynom - boundary

2010-08-11 Thread fly
Was ist die Bezeichnung von Grenzen? type=multipolynom oder type=boundary ? In D wurden die Grenzen als multipolynome importiert, aber was spricht gegen type=boundary ? Auf der deutschen Wiki-Seite steht kein Verweiß zu multipolynome, jedoch auf der englisch-sprachigen:

Re: [Talk-de] öpnvkarte.de noch aktiv?

2010-08-11 Thread Jonas Stein
Auf der Seite einfach mal nach unten scrollen? (Du wärst nicht der Erste, der das übersieht..) Ahhh jou... Besser waere es eine kleine erste Zeile oben einbinden. Offenbar gibt's momentan grössere Probleme; vor ein paar Tagen waren beim Neu-Rendern plötzlich nur noch Nodes, aber keine

Re: [Talk-de] Grenzen: multipolynom - boundary

2010-08-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, fly wrote: Was ist die Bezeichnung von Grenzen? multipolygon. (Ein Polygon ist ein Vieleck. Ein Multipolygon ist eine Gruppe von einem oder mehreren solchen Vielecken.) In D wurden die Grenzen als multipolynome importiert, aber was spricht gegen type=boundary ? Dagegen spricht,

Re: [Talk-de] öpnvkarte.de noch aktiv?

2010-08-11 Thread nimix
Jonas Stein wrote: den gerenderten Haeusern nach muss die Karte schon fast ein viertel Jahr alt sein. Es ist genau wie Thomas vermutet hatte, das Update der Karte ist Fehlgeschlagen und so hab ich kurzfristig auf den Testserver umgeschaltet mit Daten von Ende April/Anfang Mai, um die

Re: [Talk-de] Rettungswache

2010-08-11 Thread Jonas Stein
wie würdet Ihr eine Rettungswache taggen - keine Feuerwehrstation ! und wie eine Bergwacht? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/838090296 -- Jonas Stein n...@jonasstein.de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Rettungswache

2010-08-11 Thread yzemaze
On 11.08.2010 10:56, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: wie würdet Ihr eine Rettungswache taggen - keine Feuerwehrstation ! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dambulance_station ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Grenzen: multipolynom - boundary

2010-08-11 Thread fly
Am 11.08.2010 11:24, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, fly wrote: Was ist die Bezeichnung von Grenzen? multipolygon. (Ein Polygon ist ein Vieleck. Ein Multipolygon ist eine Gruppe von einem oder mehreren solchen Vielecken.) das habe ich mich ja fürchterlich vertippt. Das nächste Mal wohl

Re: [Talk-de] Rettungswache

2010-08-11 Thread olvagor
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: wie würdet Ihr eine Rettungswache taggen - keine Feuerwehrstation ! Ich hab schonmal eine als amenity=ambulance_station getaggt. Aber so richtig glücklich bin ich damit nicht. Hatte die Übersetzung aus dem Forum von dict.leo.org [1], da wird aber auch emergency_station

Re: [Talk-de] Animierte Gifs

2010-08-11 Thread Walter Nordmann
Steffen Wolf-2 wrote: Ach, die sind animiert?! Ich muss wohl doch ab und zu mal einen anderen Browser verwenden ... wie wär's mit http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(Browser) ? ;) lg walter - Machen Sie sich erst mal unbeliebt, dann werden Sie auch ernst genommen - Konrad Adenauer --

Re: [Talk-de] Rettungswache

2010-08-11 Thread yzemaze
On 11.08.2010 11:31, Jonas Stein wrote: und wie eine Bergwacht? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/838090296 Eine weitere Suche brachte http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Emergency_service zum Vorschein, erscheint mir dann doch sinnvoller als emergency=*

Re: [Talk-de] Rettungswache

2010-08-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 11.08.2010 11:41, schrieb yzemaze: On 11.08.2010 10:56, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: wie würdet Ihr eine Rettungswache taggen - keine Feuerwehrstation ! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dambulance_station hierzu habe ich gerade noch passend

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