Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ?

2012-10-11 Thread Jean-Louis Stanus
Hello all, I will answer or respond to what i read Julien : about the question: "what to do in this asbl" and "what to do with the > money", i thought about such things: > - organising some mapping parties and events and communicate about it > (to let know OSM) ; > - let do some research by uni

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2012/10/11 Sander Deryckere > For what it's worth. > > Btw, this can help sometimes when having problems with > acronyms:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FWIW > thanks a lot -- Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc - gsm : +32 496 24 55 01 Lepacte.be - « promouvoir les libertés numériques en

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Sander Deryckere
For what it's worth. Btw, this can help sometimes when having problems with acronyms:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FWIW 2012/10/11 Nicolas Pettiaux > 2012/10/11 wannes > >> FWIW >> > > I don't understand FWIW > > -- > Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc - gsm : +32 496 24 55 01 > Lepacte

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2012/10/11 wannes > FWIW > I don't understand FWIW -- Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc - gsm : +32 496 24 55 01 Lepacte.be - « promouvoir les libertés numériques en Belgique » - hetpact.be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.opens

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread wannes
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > This is a real pleasure on this list. We are IMHO effective and > respectful of each other. > I like it a lot in this country where languages and associated feelings > too often creates the problem. > +1 > My proposal : let's go with F

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2012/10/11 wannes > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > >> Because Brussels is bilingual it would make things easier moving to a >>> bilingual ASBL/VWZ afterwards (altough I don't see any benefit from being >>> bilingual officialy, now we do almost everything in English ...

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread wannes
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > Because Brussels is bilingual it would make things easier moving to a >> bilingual ASBL/VWZ afterwards (altough I don't see any benefit from being >> bilingual officialy, now we do almost everything in English ...) >> >> as long as we work

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Dennis Bollyn
The only problem I see with Triodos is that it doesn't seem to be possible to do any cash transactions (withdraw or deposit money) or have a card. This would make simple purchases quite difficult. Keytrade doesn't seem to have these problems, but I have no personal experience with them. On Thu, O

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 11 October 2012 16:11:52 wannes wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > > As I live in Brussels, I also propose and would like to be involved in the > > association. > > Would it be possible to have te official adress at your place? Because > Brussels is bi

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2012/10/11 wannes > Yes. > Please go for French bylaws and unofficial translation, if speed is > important. > > indeed > As I live in Brussels, I also propose and would like to be involved in the >> association. >> > > Would it be possible to have te official adress at your place? yes > Beca

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Sander Deryckere
Online this will probably take long. Is anyone willing to organise a meeting in real life (preferably on some central place)? Maybe make a doodle to see when most people are available. 2012/10/11 Nicolas Pettiaux > > +1 to the idea to get input from the person who proposed bylaws in Flemish > .

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread wannes
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > > > As far as I know, we can start with the statuts/Statutes in 1 language and > the have them translated, either officially (= published to the moniteur > with the first one) or unofficially (= just for us and interested people) > Yes. P

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2012/10/11 Ben Abelshausen > I would also like to fully support this any way I can... Also 1 > organisation please! :-) > > +42 (the answer to the question of the universe) until as said, the country is splitted or we are forced or convinced to split. As far as I know, we can start with the sta

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Ben Abelshausen
I would also like to fully support this any way I can... Also 1 organisation please! :-) On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Ben Laenen wrote: > On Thursday 11 October 2012 15:19:45 Julien Fastré wrote: > > I was proposing voting on the modifications, not on the bylaws ! I am > > sorry you misunder

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 11 October 2012 15:19:45 Julien Fastré wrote: > I was proposing voting on the modifications, not on the bylaws ! I am > sorry you misunderstood... > > Of course, it is not the time to vote !!! and we will need a real > meeting for that !! My bad :-) Ben _

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Julien Fastré
I was proposing voting on the modifications, not on the bylaws ! I am sorry you misunderstood... Of course, it is not the time to vote !!! and we will need a real meeting for that !! Julien Le 11/10/12 15:17, Ben Laenen a écrit : On Thursday 11 October 2012 15:06:47 Julien Fastré wrote: I

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 11 October 2012 15:06:47 Julien Fastré wrote: > I made my proposals on the talk page: it may be easier... > > Should we organize vote ? You guys are moving so fast, you just announced this yesterday evening and now you're already voting on the statutes? Statutes have to be reviewed q

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Julien Fastré
I made my proposals on the talk page: it may be easier... Should we organize vote ? Julien Le 11/10/12 14:53, eMerzh a écrit : about the bylaws published i have some comments but should i set them on the wiki (discussion? ) or here? like the "Object de l'assoc.. " (art 3.1 ) .. we need t

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread eMerzh
about the bylaws published i have some comments but should i set them on the wiki (discussion? ) or here? like the "Object de l'assoc.. " (art 3.1 ) .. we need to be more OSM specific . I like the opendata mouvement but OSM-belgium is about OSM ..; if we can in the process give access to other o

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Julien Fastré
Ok. +1 for me. Until now, we have never heard on this list the proposal to have 2 organisations. Thinking about that, I was imagined also a possibility to have two organisations with a representation of the other one in the board of each one... But for thoses people, it means having to keep

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rijwoningen nummeren

2012-10-11 Thread Sander Deryckere
Op 11 oktober 2012 14:00 schreef Jo het volgende: > Ik heb er hier een aantal gedaan: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.870346&lon=4.7068&zoom=18&layers=M > > Maar om dat in groot detail te doen, gaat algauw vervelen. > > Daarenboven zijn ze ondertussen in Frankrijk begonnnen met een ander

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rijwoningen nummeren

2012-10-11 Thread Joren
Op 11/10/12 14:00, Jo schreef: Ik heb er hier een aantal gedaan: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.870346&lon=4.7068&zoom=18&layers=M Maar om dat in groot detail te doen, gaat algauw vervelen. Dat is inderdaad wel netjes in detail. Echter heb ik in mijn buurt niet zo'n goede satellietbeelde

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Jo
My vote goes to 1 organisation (until we split the country, lol, just kidding). I don't see a problem with only having the bylaws in 1 language, even if it is French :-). Jo 2012/10/11 eMerzh > I can help too... (i live in brussels) > > The first thing to choose is if we do 2 or 1 organisatio

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread eMerzh
I can help too... (i live in brussels) The first thing to choose is if we do 2 or 1 organisation (with maybe regional points) Then we need to discuss the object of the association ... and i think we need to become a real "local chapter" to be able to use osm logo / ... _

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Julien Fastré
Did you ever heard about some association having two statuts/statuten ? In case of problem, which one should we refer to ? I think we should choose one language for the statuts/statuten, and having a place in it where we say that we accept document in another language (PV/verslag, enz) Julie

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread wannes
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dennis Bollyn wrote: > I would also prefer to have a single organization for Belgium. This does > have some practical implications. For one, the "siège > social/maatschappelijke zetel" should probably be in Brussels. This allows > the statuts/statuten to be biling

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rijwoningen nummeren

2012-10-11 Thread Jo
Ik heb er hier een aantal gedaan: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.870346&lon=4.7068&zoom=18&layers=M Maar om dat in groot detail te doen, gaat algauw vervelen. Daarenboven zijn ze ondertussen in Frankrijk begonnnen met een andere aanpak: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.579735&lon=7.75

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Dennis Bollyn
I would also prefer to have a single organization for Belgium. This does have some practical implications. For one, the "siège social/maatschappelijke zetel" should probably be in Brussels. This allows the statuts/statuten to be bilingual. This does mean we need a volunteer in Brussels. There is q

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rijwoningen nummeren

2012-10-11 Thread Joren
Op 11/10/12 00:46, Jo schreef: Op 11 oktober 2012 00:25 schreef Ben Laenen > het volgende: On Thursday 11 October 2012 00:06:16 Joren wrote: > Natuurlijk. > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.136865&lon=4.56644&zoom=18&layers=M > De rijwoning op

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rijwoningen nummeren

2012-10-11 Thread Joren
Bedankt voor je antwoord zo laat op de avond nog. Is het de bedoeling dat ook elke uitstulping van een rijwoning ook meteen getekend wordt? Volgens mij is dat met vrij onduidelijke satellietbeelden en zelf niet daar wonen blijkbaar onmogelijk om elke uitstulping goed te tekenen. Ik ben ter plaa

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Sander Deryckere
2012/10/11 wannes > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Ben Laenen wrote: > >> >> Also, living on the other side of our linguistic border, what do we >> actually >> prefer: one such organization to span Belgium, or two separate ones? >> Right now >> I don't see many Flemish people involved... >> >

[OSM-talk-be] mapcss om fietsknooppunten extra in de verf te zetten in JOSM

2012-10-11 Thread Jo
Hallo, Dit is enkel voor JOSM-gebruikers die aan fietsroutes werken. Naar mijn bescheiden mening is het ook het beste om JOSM te gebruiken om die relaties te bewerken. Het zorgt ervoor dat er i.p.v. een dikker wit puntje het knooppuntnummer wordt getoond in een groot lettertype op een gekleurde c

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread wannes
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Ben Laenen wrote: > > Also, living on the other side of our linguistic border, what do we > actually > prefer: one such organization to span Belgium, or two separate ones? Right > now > I don't see many Flemish people involved... > I prefer just one. Makes it ea

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
Hi, one question I have of course: if you do get the money, what will you be doing with it :-) Also, living on the other side of our linguistic border, what do we actually prefer: one such organization to span Belgium, or two separate ones? Right now I don't see many Flemish people involved...

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Le 11 octobre 2012 10:29, Pol a écrit : > Je suis dispo pour aider ! > > -*φol d.*- > super. Merci de partager avec nous tes suggestions dans cette liste et dans la proposition de statuts éventuellement. Que proposes-tu de faire ? De prendre en charge ? D'organiser ? Où habites-tu ? Nicolas

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Association/Veriniging OpenStreetMap Belgium ? (very soon ?)

2012-10-11 Thread Pol
Je suis dispo pour aider ! -*φol d.*- 2012/10/10 Julien Fastré > Goeieavond, > Bonsoir, > > (français ci-dessous) > > Ik ga mij in het Frans uitdrukken: het is gemakkelijker voor mij. Maar > ik heb geen probleem als iemand liever in het Nederlands schreeft ! > > Een klein samenvatting, toch!