Re: [OSM-talk-be] #equalstreetnames

2020-03-03 Thread Karel Adams
Just for the fun of speculating: is way 225291488 named politically correct, or not? ;) KA On 2020-03-03 19:30, Marc Gemis wrote: Hello Seppe thanks a lot for sharing this information. I do like the project (despite my comments on obtaining the data before the start) because: - it uses my 2

Re: [OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
As we map what is on the ground, we do not have to care about that, I would assume. Let someone else fight with the people that place the signs. m Op di 3 mrt. 2020 20:10 schreef Steven Clays : > To make it more complex, not every signposted towpath in Flanders is > legally a towpath. Check > h

Re: [OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
Hgw=service can be unpacked and tracks can be paved. The difference is the function, not the surface m Op di 3 mrt. 2020 19:38 schreef Stijn Rombauts via Talk-be < talk-be@openstreetmap.org>: > Hi, > > 'Jaagpaden' are not always paved roads. Often compacted, gravel, earthen, > grassy, ... road

Re: [OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread s8evq
Hi Pieter, So to be clear, you want to tag the historic usage of a road as a towpath? As a way of finding pleasant cycle ways, it's probably mostly valid. Two things I think about: For example, this (https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/r1iBEQmaUlqv0BHGmDoIGw) would also classify as historic tow

Re: [OSM-talk-be] #equalstreetnames

2020-03-03 Thread Karel Adams
Marc, In zoverre ga ik wel graag met u mee, en dat schreef ik eigenlijk ook al: Het inzamelen van data doen we sowieso al, en bij het filteren en catalogeren van informatie zijn we graag van dienst. De interpretatie die daar dan aan gegeven wordt is politiek, maar dat gaat ons niet meer aan,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] #equalstreetnames

2020-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
Hello Seppe thanks a lot for sharing this information. I do like the project (despite my comments on obtaining the data before the start) because: - it uses my 2 favourite crowd-sourced open data projects - it really requires both projects to create the map - Open Street Maps (sic) is not only us

Re: [OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread Steven Clays
To make it more complex, not every signposted towpath in Flanders is legally a towpath. Check http://www.start2boat.be/vaaropleiding/downloads/reglementen/Bijzondere%20reglementen.pdf Op di 3 mrt. 2020 om 19:38 schreef Stijn Rombauts via Talk-be < talk-be@openstreetmap.org>: > Hi, > > 'Jaagpaden'

Re: [OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread Stijn Rombauts via Talk-be
Hi, 'Jaagpaden' are not always paved roads. Often compacted, gravel, earthen, grassy, ... roads/tracks and then highway=track seems a better choice. Sometimes the only thing that's left is just a path. Then the tag service=towpath is rather odd. I use description=jaagpad.And what about similar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread Pieter Vander Vennet
Hey Marc, Thanks for your response. IMHO all towpaths are indeed peculiar service roads, thus 'highway=service' + 'service=towpath'. The wiki even mentions explicitly that it should be a service road. The examples you sent are excellent examples where the legal signposting didn't catch up with t

Re: [OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
I'm fine with explicitly mapping them. Isn't service=towpath strange on a way that is not tagged as highway=service? (but you know that I think they should have been mapped as highway=service in the first place, but this is not the case) So it's meant for all those that are explicitly signed as "J

Re: [OSM-talk-be] #equalstreetnames

2020-03-03 Thread Karel Adams
Seppe, en collega-mappers, Neem me mijn scepsis niet kwalijk, maar ik vraag me toch af we hier als mappers wel aan de kar moeten trekken. Voorzover ik zie is het onze taak om onze database te onderhouden, en aan te passen aan de permanente stroom van wijzigende informatie; en om uit te kijken

[OSM-talk-be] RFC: explicit tagging of 'Jaagpaden'

2020-03-03 Thread Pieter Vander Vennet
Hello everyone, Even though the legal restrictions of 'Jaagpaden' (towpaths in proper English) is already described in detail on the wiki , it would still be useful to reflect the special status explicitly, in our case to give a comfort bonus in cycl

[OSM-talk-be] #equalstreetnames

2020-03-03 Thread Santens Seppe
Hi all, Today, #equalstreetnames was launched, something Open Knowledge / OSM Belgium (among others) can be very proud of if you ask me. The project combines OSM and Wikidata (+ extra data crowdsourced during a workshop) to make this map: https://equalstreetnames.brussels/ (stunning isn't it?).