Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

2012/8/28 Ben Laenen > On Tuesday 28 August 2012 12:01:25 Jo wrote: > > I sent emails to the mailing lists of the 3 countries that are involved. > > I'll probably split the relations at the border if there are objections. > > And sending that to the German mailing list made it appear on the taggi

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

On Tuesday 28 August 2012 12:01:25 Jo wrote: > I sent emails to the mailing lists of the 3 countries that are involved. > I'll probably split the relations at the border if there are objections. And sending that to the German mailing list made it appear on the tagging@ mailing list as well: http

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

I sent emails to the mailing lists of the 3 countries that are involved. I'll probably split the relations at the border if there are objections. Jo 2012/8/28 Ben Laenen > On Tuesday 28 August 2012 09:49:54 Jo wrote: > > This query results in a 45 MB file, containing all relations where > > rou

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

On Tuesday 28 August 2012 09:49:54 Jo wrote: > This query results in a 45 MB file, containing all relations where > route=foot in an area more or less covering Belgium. There are some routes > going into the neighbouring countries. Hopefully they won't mind the > retagging. Watch out with that: if

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

Thank you for that tip. It could be more error prone when there is something wrong with that area relation though. There are some parts going into Germany as well. I was hoping they wouldn't mind the change from foot to hiking, but maybe I better go and ask on their mailing lists first. Cheers,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

You can download features within a boundary also with overpass api. This will download all city nodes in the relation 3600058974. see http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/12554/is-there-a-web-service-exposed-to-get-all-cities-in-a-country Just watch out, some Belgian node networks h

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

2012/8/27 Ben Laenen > On Monday 27 August 2012 10:14:47 Jo wrote: > > I created a page where we can all vote: > > > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Walking > > _Routes/VoteForHikingOrFoot&action=edit > > > Just a little question: why did this need its own

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

On Monday 27 August 2012 10:14:47 Jo wrote: > I created a page where we can all vote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Walking > _Routes/VoteForHikingOrFoot&action=edit Just a little question: why did this need its own page? It's what the discussion pages

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

I created a page where we can all vote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Walking_Routes/VoteForHikingOrFoot&action=edit Cheers, Jo ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/list

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

OK let's vote (and thx for your proposal). 2012/8/27 Jo > For the record: I'm also unhappy about having two tags wich are synonyms > for the same concept in OSM. Since foot was first, it is unfortunate that > hiking started to be used. Now that hiking seems to be more established > international

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

2012/8/26 Ben Laenen : > On Sunday 26 August 2012 23:33:31 Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: >> What about finding a temporary solution for OSM-be that does not use >> GR but also asking (to whom ?) for the permission >> use the GR label of the routes on OSM ? I suppose the GR system would >> not be opposed

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

I give you an extract of the OSM wiki ( I hope you can see the different colors in this text below or go to whatever page with the word hiking or foot.) --- Hiking routes are extensively mapped with route relations, and the Lonvia map will render route relations

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

For the record: I'm also unhappy about having two tags wich are synonyms for the same concept in OSM. Since foot was first, it is unfortunate that hiking started to be used. Now that hiking seems to be more established internationally I'd also prefer we use route=hiking everywhere. What will be ne

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

2012/8/27 Ivo De Broeck : > If foot is not depreciated, why has foot another color in de OSM wiki, like > on > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Route#Walking_routes_.28also_hiking_and_pilgrimage.29 > and all other pages? Why will Potlach preset are always hiking? Sorry, I do not understand your

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

If foot is not depreciated, why has foot another color in de OSM wiki, like on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Route#Walking_routes_.28also_hiking_and_pilgrimage.29and all other pages? Why will Potlach preset are always hiking? I think is not a good idea to use 2 possible tags, because its conf

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

On Sunday 26 August 2012 23:33:31 Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > What about finding a temporary solution for OSM-be that does not use > GR but also asking (to whom ?) for the permission > use the GR label of the routes on OSM ? I suppose the GR system would > not be opposed. At least I hope so. I don'

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

What about finding a temporary solution for OSM-be that does not use GR but also asking (to whom ?) for the permission use the GR label of the routes on OSM ? I suppose the GR system would not be opposed. At least I hope so. Regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

Original question: foot doesn't appear to be depreciated, so no need to change the wiki for that reason. However, I share your opinion that 'hiking' would be better than 'foot' for hiking routes, certainly for the long distance hiking routes. The description on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiking

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

> The way I thought trademark works, it doesn't matter if you use a name or logo > for something completely different. It does. A trademark is registered for a specific area of use. > Using the Ford logo to sell potting soil > would still be a trademark violation. No, it wouldn't be. It would be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

Can we start a new tread about trademarks and talk about the original question? Thx 2012/8/26 Jan Herrygers > Op zondag 26 augustus 2012 21:49:02 schreef u: > > Oh, that was easy. The name "GR" is protected: > > > http://register.boip.int/bmbonline/details/trademark/show.do?markNumberType= > > R

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

Op zondag 26 augustus 2012 21:49:02 schreef u: > Oh, that was easy. The name "GR" is protected: > http://register.boip.int/bmbonline/details/trademark/show.do?markNumberType= > REG&markNumber=151720&markID=199392 > > Also note that the services overlap (cartography), so we can't use that > name as

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

On Sunday 26 August 2012 21:42:13 Sander Deryckere wrote: > The name "GR" can't be copyrighted (there's not creativity in two letters), > but it can be a protected brand. > > But therefore, it has to be registered in Belgium (a brand has to be > registered in each country separately): > http://en.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

Agree that you can not copyright two letters. If there ever has been a copyright on it, it is public domain now since the author that put for the first time an 'r' behind a 'g' must be dead for ages. Even if it is a trademark, I fail to see why we could not map it. That would imply that we can not

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

Oh, that was easy. The name "GR" is protected: http://register.boip.int/bmbonline/details/trademark/show.do?markNumberType=REG&markNumber=151720&markID=199392 Also note that the services overlap (cartography), so we can't use that name as our reference or name on the relation without permission.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

The name "GR" can't be copyrighted (there's not creativity in two letters), but it can be a protected brand. But therefore, it has to be registered in Belgium (a brand has to be registered in each country separately): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark I'll check if it's registered in Belgium

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

Hi, just one tiny note about GR, i don't know the situation here in belgium, but i know that in France, the usage of the name GR is copyrighted so they do not enter any GR waiting for the approval of the FFRP (french federation of trail walking) owner of the copyright. it may be usefull to check t

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Route#Walking_routes_.28also_hiking_and_pilgrimage.29 route=hiking is more used then route=foot hiking is IMHO a better name for GR (difference with lwn) and Potlach presets in "hiking", i know Potlach has to follow the Belgian rules and mappers are not so imp

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

On Sunday 26 August 2012 20:49:42 Ivo De Broeck wrote: > On the wiki is on several places mentioned that route=foot is depreceated > and they suggest to use "hiking". Can we use route=hiking in the > convencions for GR-routes? No idea where it says on the wiki that route=foot is deprecated. There

[OSM-talk-be] GR en hiking

On the wiki is on several places mentioned that route=foot is depreceated and they suggest to use "hiking". Can we use route=hiking in the convencions for GR-routes? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinf