Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread john whelan
Normally the OSM .odbl license doesn't line up with the Open data license. Cheerio John On 30 July 2012 22:50, Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello There are so many Dataset available with Opendata JOSM plug-in. The only way to import other datasets is to develop a

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Weait
2012/7/31 Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com: what!? do you mean openstreetmap denies opendata !!!? Come on! it's a joke? Dear Bruno, This is an old topic. I'll summarize for you. In short, yes, the OpenStreetMap community does reject a class of Open Data. We don't want data in OSM that we

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: 2012/7/31 Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com: what!? do you mean openstreetmap denies opendata !!!? Come on! it's a joke? Dear Bruno, This is an old topic. I'll summarize for you. On the good side, we have Natural

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Weait
2012/7/31 Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com: Thanks Richard for your considerations. While reading your comments, I'm carried to believe that : wheras Canadian municipalities produce scrap data versus europenan ones I don't believe this. Canadian citizen are less confident in theyr

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Frank Steggink
Hi Bruno, Although there are many more European datasets listed in the catalogue, many of them are very small, covering only a city, province, etc. In North America there are a few, but very large datasets which have been imported or are in the process of being imported. Examples in the US

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Bruno Remy
Hi folks, Thanks all for your comments. Here we go, just as Montreal city does, well think about it (mostly licence considerations) before taking actions: We've added an entry in Import catalog: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue#Ongoing_Imports.2C_Semi-Automated and started a

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Frank Steggink
On 31-7-2012 15:09, Bruno Remy wrote: Does this Quebec city Opendata Licence compatible with OSM? (Y/N) And Why? http://donnees.ville.quebec.qc.ca/licence.aspx I'll give this a try with my understanding of French, so be aware... ;) I'll only pay attention to the clauses which might be an

Re: [Talk-ca] Fixme Files

2012-07-31 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour Osmers First, a few personal news... I am currently transferring my files to François and Nicolas who will take over with the Openstreetmap community. François is already an Osm contributor and Nicolas might soon be a contributor as well. This is not bad news for me as I will soon

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Pierre Béland
Frank has clearly stated the limits of the Québec city license. I agree with his opinion. As Richard Weait said  before Yes, it is wonderful that governments at all levels are learning about the benefits of Open Data but governments   are struggling to participate effectively in the global Open

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Thread Bruno Remy
Well now we have the big picture of what licences allows to us... or not. Indeed, it seems that opendata are more acurate as databases for mobile apps (witch transcend them), than beeing basicaly copy-pasted as row data. Thanks to all folks, and sorry for my 'epidermic' reaction this morning : i

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:40 PM To: talk-us Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags I was unaware of the TLID bug and the fact that TIGER has changed their data model although I kind of wondered about this because I didn't see a

Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags I think the ways tagged with sub_sea would need to be deleted, not just the tag itself. These tend to be hydrological topology connectors under lakes that