Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Stewart C. Russell
Hi Bjenk, > Most participants here agree that open data initiatives exist so that > we, the public, organizations including OSM, everyone can use the > data. The OSM project can't accept data that might have hidden licensing issues that might jeopardize OSM's existence. All new licenses are

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Bjenk Ellefsen
Most participants here agree that open data initiatives exist so that we, the public, organizations including OSM, everyone can use the data. With that said, It has not yet been clearly explained what are the issues nor the sources raising concerns. Many have asked for clarifications and these

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Alan Richards
Exactly. Local governments are using this license presumably because the federal government has gone to the work of creating it. The intention of all these bodies is to release the data for public use, the license is to cover them from lawsuits. In New West in fact, they are having an innovation

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread James
The only differences I could see is with the province of quebec (OGL-QC), but they publish their data under CC-BY 4.0 so we just need to ask for their approval to mark refs on contributors page (indirect reference which CC-BY requires) I think it would be logical for other provinces(excluding

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread john whelan
I'm under the impression that we are talking about two things. The first is the Open Data licence which I think we are agreed is roughly the same except that BC governments reference the BC privacy law, the Ontario ones the Ontario privacy law and the Federal Government references the Federal

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Alan Richards
Most BC cities seem to be using a version of the OGL-BC now as well. This is similar to the OGL-CA with references to BC privacy and FOI laws, similar to the Ontario changes mentioned earlier. This business of having to get explicit permission for each dataset from each government entity is a bit

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Blake Girardot
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on top of > the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data incompatible. Hi Paul, The above sounds like an interpretation of the answer, not

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread John Marshall
Paul, The City add the the building footprints to their open data portal in order to have it add to OSM. Also the City of Ottawa uses OSM: http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset /sledding-hills Ottawa Hydro which is owned by the City uses OSM. https://hydroottawa .com/outages/info/outage-centre Let's