Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO -apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Miller
On 14 Jun 2010, at 15:11, David Groom wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Avis" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - > apostrophes > > >> >> At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point i

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Ed Avis" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes > > At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such > as > Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Avis
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Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Loach
I went out at the weekend to resurvey all the highlighted roads in this district (Tendring, Essex - about 38 IIRC). Many of these were apostrophe related and I was beginning to think that the district had a policy of not including apostrophes on street signs until I came to one where they had. Whil

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Doerr
From: "Ed Avis" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:54 PM > At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such > as > Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, are not ones that can > be > resolved by survey. They are merely orthographic conventions. Similarly, > w

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Avis
You are right that OS data can have mistakes, and should not automatically override what's in OSM now. To resolve a difference (whether of apostrophes or anything else) you need to use independent sources such as postal addresses, local knowledge or histories of the area. Rather than adding a not

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Chris Hill
Tim François wrote: > "...issues such as Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, > are not ones that can be resolved by survey. They are merely > orthographic conventions" > > Is this true? I was under the impression that we mapped what we saw - > i.e. the definitive name is the

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Avis
Richard Mann writes: >I've got a road that's Arnolds Way in OSM and on the street signs, >Arnold's Way in OSSV. How should it be tagged? In such situations I usually do some research to find out who is correct. The local council which puts up the street signs certainly has some authority, howeve

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Mann
I've got a road that's Arnolds Way in OSM and on the street signs, Arnold's Way in OSSV. How should it be tagged? name=Arnolds Way alt_name=Arnold's Way ? Richard On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such as >

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Tim François
"...issues such as Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, are not ones that can be resolved by survey.  They are merely orthographic conventions" Is this true? I was under the impression that we mapped what we saw - i.e. the definitive name is the one we see on the street signs d

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Avis
At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such as Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, are not ones that can be resolved by survey. They are merely orthographic conventions. Similarly, we do not report a mismatch between High Street and HIGH STREET, even