Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Andrew Hain
Richard Fairhurst writes: > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/announce/ :) > (it's a bit unloved though... needs more people volunteering for CWG to > help) Could that go into the community blogs for people who follow OSM bu web pages? -- Andrew ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Andy Allan
On 2 December 2013 20:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: > So, we have an announcements list, but there was no announcement there > about the recent change, which people are complaining was > inadequately, er, announced? I think they may have a case. And here you are, complaining that nobody is volunteerin

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Woollacott
Hi Wintonian, As long as you use the shapefile or KML and manipulate the data itself, then there wont be a problem. However, the Hants online map uses OS data which is crown copyright, and has data which has not been released under OpenData, so you can't use copy the data from that. Jason

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Barry Cornelius
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, wintonian wrote: Can use this data from Hants CC ( http://www3.hants.gov.uk/row/row-maps.htm )? It has been released under the 'Open Goverment License' ( http://www3.hants.gov.uk/opendata/licence.htm ). I wish to use it to set the designation for 'rights of way' and for creat

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 3 December 2013 02:51, wintonian wrote: > Can use this data from Hants CC ( http://www3.hants.gov.uk/row/row-maps.htm > )? It has been released under the 'Open Goverment License' ( > http://www3.hants.gov.uk/opendata/licence.htm ). Data released under the "Open Government Licence" would be fin

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread wintonian
Thanks for the input all, I'll reply more fully later when I have time but for now I'll just say this. 1, I had considered the potential contradictions of definitive map, dataset and usage but had not yet tackled the question. Interestingly I know of a recent case where the on-line maps at HC

[Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Roger Calvert
On the new front page, the search button seems to have a broken link - if you type in a place name (I tried 'Kendal' and 'Barrow') it goes to http://www.openstreetmap.org/search, and says File not found Couldn't find a file/directory/API operation by that name on the OpenStreetMap server

Re: [Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/12/13 14:08, Roger Calvert wrote: On the new front page, the search button seems to have a broken link - if you type in a place name (I tried 'Kendal' and 'Barrow') it goes to http://www.openstreetmap.org/search, and says First of all, if you find a bug please report it in the bug track

[Talk-GB] Norfolk editors' help needed

2013-12-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
My Twitter contact @Mistlemoon, who works for a library service in Norfolk, would like to contact a local editor to ensure that coverage of branch libraries is complete and accurate. If you're not on Twitter, I can put you in touch. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread david
On 03/12/13 14:22, Tom Hughes wrote: On 03/12/13 14:08, Roger Calvert wrote: On the new front page, the search button seems to have a broken link - if you type in a place name (I tried 'Kendal' and 'Barrow') it goes to http://www.openstreetmap.org/search, and says What browser are you using

Re: [Talk-GB] Norfolk editors' help needed

2013-12-03 Thread Filip Chirita Rares Cristian
Why not introduce him to OSM and let him make sure the coverage is complete and accurate, as he seems to be an expert on this? On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > My Twitter contact @Mistlemoon, who works for a library service in > Norfolk, would like to contact a local editor

Re: [Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Barry Cornelius
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, david wrote: For me it is broken on Firefox, both on Ubuntu and Android, works OK on android browser. That's strange. For me, it works fine when I use Firefox, both on Ubuntu and Android. My Ubuntu is Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and Firefox is 25.0.1. My Android is 4.2.2 and Fir

Re: [Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/12/13 16:44, david wrote: On 03/12/13 14:22, Tom Hughes wrote: On 03/12/13 14:08, Roger Calvert wrote: On the new front page, the search button seems to have a broken link - if you type in a place name (I tried 'Kendal' and 'Barrow') it goes to http://www.openstreetmap.org/search, and s

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi, The Hants data was one of the first Rights of Way datasets that we got access to. It is my understanding that we did get the permission for using this OS OpenData licensed data above and beyond what the OS OpenData license says (we have permission from both OS and Hants CC). Having said this,

Re: [Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread david
I've been working with Roger on this for the last couple of hours and I think we have got to the bottom of it now. Basically, this works: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ but this doesnn't: http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html If you use the second one to load the site then you will ge

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread UrbanRambler1
With all this importing going on it's worthwhile remembering the basics. If a footpath has been surveyed it'll have at least one gpx track. If the gpx looks reliable it's probably the best indication of where the footpath goes. Rgds, Vic On 03/12/13 19:32, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi, The Hants

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Robert Norris
Given the efforts of AndyS, NickW, myself and many others - most of Hampshire is very well mapped. An interesting question is how much? (Compared to the Hants CC). There is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hampshire/Rights_of_Way but that was last updated over 2 years ago :( I suspect in term

Re: [Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Jonathan
Well done Tom & Roger on tracking that one down. Those can be a real pain to find. But surely www.openstreetmap.org redirects to index.html at least that's the Apache default? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 03/12/2013 19:41, david wrote: I've been working with Roger on this for the l

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Jonathan
Can someone clarify the situation for me. I'm in Worcestershire where permission was previously sought to use the Worcs CC PRoW. However, what is the advice in a situation where you can't use official PRoW data, Bing shows a path across a field, a ground survey also shows a clear path across

Re: [Talk-GB] Changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-03 Thread Roger Calvert
Thanks, Tom. I can also confirm the same thing as David. I can't take any credit for this - I just ran various tests under Tom's instructions until he identified the problem. Roger On 03/12/2013 19:41, david wrote: I've been working with Roger on this for the last couple of hours and I thi

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Meet us in Birmingham on Thursday

2013-12-03 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, We are fast approaching the first Thursday of the month and that means it's time for the local West Midlands group to meet up for a drink or two in the evening. All are welcome, so please join us from 7:30pm at The Bull, Price Street, Birmingham. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_M

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread wintonian
This was one of the other things I was wondering about. If we are mapping what is actually on the ground (which would seem to be the sensible approach) and then assigning the relevant legal status to the feature i.e. a footpath/ bridleway etc. in this case and the legal line RoW is diffident t

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Andy Street
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 21:36:03 + Robert Norris wrote: > An interesting question is how much? (Compared to the Hants CC). > > There is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hampshire/Rights_of_Way > but that was last updated over 2 years ago :( I used to update page manually each month but lost in

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Robert Norris
> A quick comparison of HCC's numbers with the latest Geofabrik > Hampshire extract yields the following: > > 51% designation=public_footpath > 60% designation=public_bridleway > 58% designation=restricted_byway > 111% designation=byway,public_byway,byway_open_to_all_traffic Nice - thanks for the

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Andy Street
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:00:20 + Jonathan wrote: > Can someone clarify the situation for me. I'm in Worcestershire > where permission was previously sought to use the Worcs CC PRoW. > However, what is the advice in a situation where you can't use > official PRoW data, Bing shows a path across

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread wintonian
Really what I meant was where the is a RoW (as evidenced by the definitive map) but the actual line that is used has moved over time, perhaps to avoid a fallen tree or an area that has become wet and boggy over the years or otherwise more difficult to traverse than the new line. Therefore what

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-03 Thread Andy Street
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:35:30 + Robert Norris wrote: > >> Some of the 'Green Lanes' (ex Roads Used as Public Path?) are a bit > >> mysterious - (seemed to be called 'Public Ways' in West Sussex > >> speak). These don't seem appear in OS Locator or OS Streetview, nor > >> are they covered by the