Re: [Talk-GB] Canal & River Trust maps

2015-04-03 Thread Brian Prangle
Couldn't agree more with Jerry's post which shows a pragmatic and real world view (also Richard F's elsewhere). To me what this highlights is the need for a more organised and diplomatic approach to promoting OSM in the UK. Also the need for a whole host of internal housekeeping tasks. Regrds Bri

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 2 April 2015 at 10:42, Brian Prangle wrote: > So, on to our next project: all things delivery-related > > This could be Royal Mail postboxes (still loads to do); Royal Mail delivery > offices and sorting offices; delivery areas/gates to factories and town > centre shopping malls; maxheights and

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread David Woolley
On 03/04/15 13:43, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: Should everything be amenity=post_office, or would it be better to have different tags for sorting offices / distribution warehouses and also for parcel collection points? Different. In particular, if it is not open to the public, I would

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread SK53
A while back I did have a go at doing delivery offices (using amenity=delivery_office) because a) these are often in funny places and b) finding the local one which is the parcel collection point was non-trivial (so useful map feature). I started because I noticed that some places have masses of p

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread John Aldridge
On 03/04/2015 13:43, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: While I'm here, one thing it might be good to discuss in relation to this project is how best to tag some of the different types of delivery/collection infrastructure... I had a go a while ago at working out what the consensus was on this

Re: [Talk-GB] Canal & River Trust maps

2015-04-03 Thread pmailkeey .
On 3 April 2015 at 09:02, Brian Prangle wrote: > Couldn't agree more with Jerry's post which shows a pragmatic and real > world view (also Richard F's elsewhere). To me what this highlights is the > need for a more organised and diplomatic approach to promoting OSM in the > UK. Also the need for

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread John Aldridge
On 02/04/2015 10:42, Brian Prangle wrote: Our first attempt at a quarterly project has just finished, where fixing road names was the target. This may entertain you... This email reminded me that I'd meant to check out one or two more mismatches round here, so went out this morning to finish

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread Colin Smale
Why not tag both spelling variants? They are both correct in their own frame of reference. If it differs to what is "on the ground", we can use official_name=* for the name given by the local authority, warts an' all. Even council employees and contractors make mistakes occasionally. Should

[Talk-GB] Actual names

2015-04-03 Thread pmailkeey .
On 3 April 2015 at 14:41, John Aldridge wrote: > On 02/04/2015 10:42, Brian Prangle wrote: > >> Our first attempt at a quarterly project has just finished, where fixing >> road names was the target. >> > > This may entertain you... > > This email reminded me that I'd meant to check out one or two

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread John Aldridge
On 03/04/2015 14:59, Colin Smale wrote: Why not tag both spelling variants? They are both correct in their own frame of reference. If it differs to what is "on the ground", we can use official_name=* for the name given by the local authority, warts an' all. I wouldn't have a problem with this

Re: [Talk-GB] Canal & River Trust maps

2015-04-03 Thread Lester Caine
On 03/04/15 14:38, pmailkeey . wrote: > OSM's actually global, Brian. And other countries handle their area of the map with a lot more active support. All we are talking about here is UK data on the UK list. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread pmailkeey .
On 3 April 2015 at 13:49, David Woolley wrote: > On 03/04/15 13:43, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > >> Should everything be >> amenity=post_office, or would it be better to have different tags for >> sorting offices / distribution warehouses and also for parcel >> collection points? >> > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread pmailkeey .
On 3 April 2015 at 14:41, John Aldridge wrote: > > FWIW, the previous editor had used "St Bedes Gardens", which seemed not > unreasonable given the range of possibilities, so I left it like that and > just added a not:name tag to shut the validator up. > > > It's likely the right version - as wit

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread Colin Smale
So now instead of having two versions of the name (1. according to the council and 2. according to the sign) we are to have a third version, according to OSM? I am also thinking of our "conventions" with regard to punctuation and abbreviations (not to mention capitalisation), which lead to mappe

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread David Woolley
On 03/04/15 15:29, pmailkeey . wrote: Delivery offices are open to the public. I was thinking of sorting offices, which are not, although may be co-sited with a delivery office. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.opens

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread David Woolley
On 03/04/15 16:04, David Woolley wrote: On 03/04/15 15:29, pmailkeey . wrote: Delivery offices are open to the public. I was thinking of sorting offices, which are not, although may be co-sited with a delivery office. Also, the actual public amenity tends to be a small cubbyhole at one corne

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread ael
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:43:35PM +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > > For anyone interested in mapping Royal Mail Post Boxes, or Post Office > Ltd Post Office branches, you may find the tools I run at > http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ useful. Amongst other things, This seems

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:31:32 +0100 "pmailkeey ." wrote: Hello pmailkeey, >It's likely the right version - as without punctuation is Royal Mail >preferred and it's a new street. Royal Mail don't decide the correct spelling/punctuation, the relevant Local Authority does(1). They (Royal Mail) migh

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread Brian Prangle
Wow! What a fantastice resource. There'll almost be no time this quarter to do anything else but postboxes. There's masses to do within just 2 miles of where I live and I thought I'd got most of them. Might be the same for others too - a great incentive to resurvey areas that might not have been to

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread John Aldridge
On 03/04/2015 15:55, Colin Smale wrote: So now instead of having two versions of the name (1. according to the council and 2. according to the sign) we are to have a third version, according to OSM? That's not what I meant, unless I've misunderstood you. There's the definitive name "according

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread pmailkeey .
On 3 April 2015 at 16:49, ael wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:43:35PM +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) > wrote: > > > > For anyone interested in mapping Royal Mail Post Boxes, or Post Office > > Ltd Post Office branches, you may find the tools I run at > > http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/pos

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread pmailkeey .
On 3 April 2015 at 17:55, John Aldridge wrote: > On 03/04/2015 15:55, Colin Smale wrote: > >> According to the National Street Gazetteer, the official source of >> > street names is the local authority in their Local Street Gazetteer >> which they have to feed into the NSG. Is this the "other dat

[Talk-GB] Postbox refs

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi, I've noticed recently that postbox references have started appearing with a "D" on the end (same ref as before just with a D added to the end). This seems to be in areas where RM have updated the collection times. Does anyone know what the D means? Does RobW's tool allow for this D (as in do

Re: [Talk-GB] Postbox refs

2015-04-03 Thread John Aldridge
On 03/04/2015 18:49, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi, I've noticed recently that postbox references have started appearing with a "D" on the end (same ref as before just with a D added to the end). This seems to be in areas where RM have updated the collection times. Does anyone know what the D means?

Re: [Talk-GB] Postbox refs

2015-04-03 Thread Dan S
2015-04-03 19:01 GMT+01:00 John Aldridge : > On 03/04/2015 18:49, Rob Nickerson wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I've noticed recently that postbox references have started appearing >> with a "D" on the end (same ref as before just with a D added to the >> end). This seems to be in areas where RM have update

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 3 April 2015 at 16:57, Brian Prangle wrote: > Robert presumably you can give us some regular metrics along the way to see > if having a quarterly project actually impacts mapping behaviour? I've got some historical progress data that I've been recording for Post Boxes and Post Offices. There a

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

2015-04-03 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 3 April 2015 at 16:49, ael wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:43:35PM +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: >> >> For anyone interested in mapping Royal Mail Post Boxes, or Post Office >> Ltd Post Office branches, you may find the tools I run at >> http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/