Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread SK53
A while back I played with trying to create watersheds using available OSM data. Each group of waterways which interconnect (note I used st_intersects() on osm2pgsql data, not the true topological relations in way_nodes) is given a different colour. The map gives a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 14/03/16 21:09, Andy Townsend wrote: > There is a real benefit of having OSSV streams, ditches and drains in > though - it's often clear that a watercourse hasn't moved for years, and > it can then be used to help align imagery and GPS traces. That would be useful where the source has been

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/03/2016 20:50, Rob Nickerson wrote: My concern with rivers is that we don't have tools to measure progress - taginfo gives a count of nodes/ways/relations whereas we'd want total length of features per region (in miles/km). I'd agree that tracking progress with that one would be tricky.

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 14/03/16 20:18, Neil Matthews wrote: > P.S. Which building is the pub? > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.45246/-2.42691 http://developments.southglos.gov.uk/online-applications/files/6FA7555C98FA66267FE1EC868218327D/pdf/PK11_2312_LB-SITE_LOCATION_PLAN-4150384.pdf I would be looking

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Rob Nickerson
My concern with rivers is that we don't have tools to measure progress - taginfo gives a count of nodes/ways/relations whereas we'd want total length of features per region (in miles/km). Would anyone on this list be able to produce an online tracking tool? *Rob* On 14 March 2016 at 20:47, Rob

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Rob Nickerson
Thanks Brian, I've also put this on Loomio [1] because at some stage we will need to decide and I find it difficult to interpret messages on talk-gb which often provide some pro, some cons but then don't say yes/no clearly enough to judge opinion. For those interested, the healthcare data is all

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Neil Matthews
I'd argue all approaches can be considered correct from the wiki: "Add a node at the centre of the pub and add amenity=pub to it. ... If the whole building is used for this feature and its footprint is present in OSM, you can apply the tags on the area if you prefer." Area obviously applies to

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/03/2016 17:26, SK53 wrote: A quick query on IRC and Andy (SomeoneElse) also maps pubs this way True, but not with a zealous committment to it "absolutely being the best way". I'm open to persuasion. Part of the reason might be that I'm probably more likely to sit in the beer garden

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 March 2016 at 23:46, Edward Betts wrote: Thank you again for your continued work on this. However... > I think the next step is show the list of items to be tagged in human readable > form with a form where mappers can sign their name or username and assert that > they

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-14 Thread Edward Betts
Sorry about that. Thanks for the bug report. I've fixed it. Andrew Hain wrote: > I’m getting internal server errors when I try to look at the previews. > > -- > Andrew > > > From: Edward Betts > Sent: 11

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Hain
I’m getting internal server errors when I try to look at the previews. -- Andrew From: Edward Betts Sent: 11 March 2016 15:46 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland I've added

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 14/03/16 15:08, Dave F wrote: >> * Where do we place tags associated with the pub premises which may >> apply also to other parts of the pub property (an obvious one >> would be opening_hours). > > I'm unsure how common that would be, but it could go on the boundary as > the garden

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Dave F
On 11/03/2016 17:26, SK53 wrote: Earlier today browsing Pascal Neis summary of changesets This is new to me. Is there a way find all changesets with my locale? The disadvantages, at least to my mind, are: * Non-intuitive. Certainly I have never thought of mapping pubs this way,

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread SK53
Anything covered by FHRS has decent Open Data coverage across the country: hospitals, care homes, pharmacies. Charity Care Commission Open Data has a significant overlap with doctors, dentists, care homes, clinics etc. Both contain postcodes so one can locate things approximately, but in many

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 13/03/16 17:31, Brian Prangle wrote: > Following the extraordinary success of the Schools project we need to > decide how to proceed with the next quarter's project. > > There is a view we shoud rollover the project for another quarter so as > to approach completion. Given that there is a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Stuart Reynolds
It might also be worth doing some kind of survey to see what motivated participants in teh Schools project, what they liked, what they didn't like, how we could improve, how they heard of the project (if indeed some of the single editors were even aware they were being counted as part of a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Jez Nicholson
For the quarterly project, would you say that we're looking for something that does all of the following?: * include/attract lots of people * improve the UK map in either accuracy or coverage * attract outside attention * be sort-of interesting to us On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 at 17:33 Brian Prangle

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread John Aldridge
On 14-Mar-16 10:43, Stuart Reynolds wrote: The one pub that I plotted, I added when I was doing a couple of nearby schools and noticed that it was missing. I used exactly the same principle as for the schools - an outer “amenity=pub” polygon and an inner “building=pub” for the actual building.

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Dave F
+1 This corroborates what I said on the changeset & how I mapped it. Dave F. On 14/03/2016 10:43, Stuart Reynolds wrote: The one pub that I plotted, I added when I was doing a couple of nearby schools and noticed that it was missing. I used exactly the same principle as for the schools - an

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Colin Smale
Can I make a plea to keep away from using landuse polygons for this, as SK53 suggested in the original post? In town centres, pubs are often just a "shop" in a row of shops; they are therefore already in a landuse=retail polygon. Having to have an island of landuse=retail within the larger retail

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Stuart Reynolds
The one pub that I plotted, I added when I was doing a couple of nearby schools and noticed that it was missing. I used exactly the same principle as for the schools - an outer “amenity=pub” polygon and an inner “building=pub” for the actual building.

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Jez Nicholson
I normally plot and tag a pub building as an area. I've noticed a few points appearing for existing pubs. They may be coming from the new OSM online editing programs. On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 at 22:48, Neil Matthews wrote: > It's not my preferred style -- I prefer to draw the