Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Marco Boeringa
Andy, so what is your suggestion right now, do this manually or with automated tools? Personally, I only did a few reverts using the JOSM plugin, only reverting an entire changeset, not selectively as you seem to suggest here. I have no experience with the other tools you mention. Would the to

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread ael
On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 02:35:05PM -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > I think it's very unlikely, however, that these users are editing OSM for a > company. Probably the majority of edits in the UK are done by what you might > call "lone mappers". Generally this works well and people plough their

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/02/2017 21:46, Brian Prangle wrote: Might we tackle this task under the general heading either of "landuse fixes" or "uplands" as our next quarterly project? I thought that was going to be to survey all those "Pokemon parks" :) Cheers, Andy __

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Brian Prangle
I came across glucosamine during the farmyards quarterly projectwhere she/he'd tagged place=farm to every group of isolated buildings all over Herefordshire. I think he/she means well just misinterprets tagging conventions and then rolls on regardless. Might we tackle this task under the general h

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Marco Boeringa wrote: > There may be more... All of these "users" are prolific, leave almost > no changeset comments, and seem to be editing all day. It seems > to me these are editors working professionally for some OSM > related company. Thanks for the detective work and for persisting with t

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/02/2017 20:46, Marco Boeringa wrote: - Sam888, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/413378224 - Glucosamine: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/405845733 - Dyserth: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/388818928 There may be more... All of these "users" are prolific, leave almost no changes

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread ael
On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 06:30:03PM +, Brian Prangle wrote: > Be bold! If you know the area and in your opinion it's junk then delete > it. I've done a couple of areas in Shopshire I know. I don't know what the > consensus is for tagging so I added a placeholder of > landuse=unimproved_grassla

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Andrew Hain
According to http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=2762871 edits in Brazil, Russia, the United Arab Emirates and Senegal have also attracted criticism from locally knowledgeable mappers, looking like someone who is at best out of their depth. -- Andrew _

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Marco Boeringa
Hi all, I now had a very preliminary and short look at some of the changesets involved in the Wales area, which was revealing. I now noticed most of these features seem to have been added by multiple users / accounts: - Sam888, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/413378224 - Glucosamine: h

Re: [Talk-GB] Propose automated edit to update NAPTAN data in the west mids

2017-02-08 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Michael Not sure what the process is now - it was so long ago we did the last one. Can anyone help Michael? Regards Brian On 3 February 2017 at 23:22, Michael Booth wrote: > On a related note, what is the process for getting an import in places > that don't already have NAPTAN data? I'd be

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Brian Prangle
Be bold! If you know the area and in your opinion it's junk then delete it. I've done a couple of areas in Shopshire I know. I don't know what the consensus is for tagging so I added a placeholder of landuse=unimproved_grassland. What should we be tagging with? On 8 February 2017 at 13:09, ael

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: [HOT] Study: validation feedback can provide important social affirmation

2017-02-08 Thread Jez Nicholson
Good thinking Christian. >From the comments we might also monitor the progress of #GeoChicas with getting more women involved with OSM. On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 at 13:22 Christian Ledermann < christian.lederm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry for crossposting, I thought this is valuable information > > ---

[Talk-GB] Fwd: [HOT] Study: validation feedback can provide important social affirmation

2017-02-08 Thread Christian Ledermann
Sorry for crossposting, I thought this is valuable information -- Forwarded message -- From: Martin Dittus Date: 8 February 2017 at 00:34 Subject: [HOT] Study: validation feedback can provide important social affirmation To: HOT List After my talk at State of the Map in Brussel

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread ael
On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 11:22:30AM +, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 08/02/2017 10:49, Brian Prangle wrote: > > It would be great in my opinion if we moved on as a community and > > actually decided to act on our discussions. I agree that at least those changes that have not been subsequently modi

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/02/2017 10:49, Brian Prangle wrote: It would be great in my opinion if we moved on as a community and actually decided to act on our discussions. Well I fixed the northern boundary of the Merthyr "Heath" where it overlapped with stuff that I was mapping a couple of months ago :) Serio

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Marco Boeringa
Hi Brian, Yes, I would especially second Jerry's good comments in the previous discussion thread he started about sticking to a "strict" definition of heath as being characterized by species of the Ericacea (http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/natural-heath-td5888994.html). This is also a quite co

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone Looks like a challenge. We have discussed this before and there were lots of very thoughtful and knowledgeable opinions, but no decisions on any actions. I kind of got the consensus that many were uncomfortable with the spread of heathland landuse data but we never decided to do anyth

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-08 Thread Marco Boeringa
Hi David, I know the opinions about the need to create multipolygons are as diverse as there are political opinions. It was just one example where these features cause issues. My main question is simply if there are any plans or ideas by the British community of how to deal with these feature