[Talk-GB] NLS maps

2020-12-01 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, A few points of clarification related to the other thread. 1. I am Rob, ex OSM UK Director (not that that makes me any more special than anyone else in our community) and not "Rob from OSMF". 2. National Library of Scotland keep the OSM wiki page up to date themselves. Chris Fleet is

[Talk-GB] FWD: Re: High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB
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[Talk-GB] FWD: Re: High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB
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Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 01/12/2020 09:32, Ken Kilfedder wrote: 1. Is there an overpass syntax that would let me download (to JOSM) - all ways with addr:housenumber added or changed via a changeset with a certain source tag? (and not updated by something else later) 2. Could I then wipe all such addr:housenumbers

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Russ Garrett
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 10:53, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > Looking at https://maps.nls.uk/copyright.html#exceptions am I right in > thinking that the non-commercial contract restriction also applies to > some other NLS layers (e.g. OS 1:25k and 7th series scans) which have > been

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 09:53, Ken Kilfedder wrote: > IpswichMapper forwarded me this note, apparently received from NLS via an > enquiry made by Rob-from-OSMF: > > > “I wish I could give you better news on the 1940s OS maps of south-east > > England. > > Unfortunately, you’re right, they were

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread David Woolley
On 01/12/2020 10:11, Tom Hughes via Talk-GB wrote: Of course it's only claiming they do have a copyright that they can make such a license necessary. Not necessarily. If you can establish a contract at every stage in the chain, you may be able to impose restrictions that go beyond copyright.

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Tom Hughes via Talk-GB
So that can't possibly be when the copyright expires, rather it's a question of contractual provisions in a license agreement between them and NLS not copyright as such. Of course it's only claiming they do have a copyright that they can make such a license necessary. Tom On 01/12/2020 09:49,

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Stephen Colebourne
As a side note to the legal aspect, the house numbers can be horribly inaccurate. I compared Oxted to a ground survey, and the old map simply numbered the houses consecutively, which isn't reality on the ground. One possible explanation is that brand new estates (1940s) were done this way, as the

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Ken Kilfedder
Hi Tom, IpswichMapper forwarded me this note, apparently received from NLS via an enquiry made by Rob-from-OSMF: > “I wish I could give you better news on the 1940s OS maps of south-east > England. > Unfortunately, you’re right, they were scanned by a third-party commercial > company > who

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Tom Hughes via Talk-GB
If we assume that a new copyright is created by the scanning (which is a complicated question) then there is no way it expires next year. What exactly do you think the term is for this copyright and when do you think it starts from? I don't think it's relevant anyway as I thought NLS had given

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-12-01 Thread Ken Kilfedder
SO, It turns out - we cannot use these images until the scanner's copyright expires at the end of next year. Happily, it seems like there will be GB-wide coverage available at that point, not just the London-Southend-Brighton area. However, I have been happily using these images for a bit