Hi Tom, IpswichMapper forwarded me this note, apparently received from NLS via an enquiry made by Rob-from-OSMF:
> “I wish I could give you better news on the 1940s OS maps of south-east > England. > Unfortunately, you’re right, they were scanned by a third-party commercial > company > who have placed commercial re-use restrictions on this layer – there are > further > details under our Copyright Exceptions list at > https://maps.nls.uk/copyright.html#exceptions. These restrictions will last > for > another couple of years – until the end of 2022 – which I know might seem a > long > way off, but hopefully will pass quickly. Then we’ll be happily able to share > them with the OSM community, along with the rest of England and Wales > National Grid 1940s-1960s mapping, that will be of interest too.” --- https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain spiregrain_...@ksglp.org.uk On Tue, 1 Dec 2020, at 9:41 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > If we assume that a new copyright is created by the scanning (which is > a complicated question) then there is no way it expires next year. > > What exactly do you think the term is for this copyright and when do > you think it starts from? > > I don't think it's relevant anyway as I thought NLS had given us > permission to use their scans? > > Tom > > On 01/12/2020 09:32, Ken Kilfedder wrote: > > SO, > > > > It turns out - we cannot use these images until the scanner's copyright > > expires at the end of next year. Happily, it seems like there will be > > GB-wide coverage available at that point, not just the > > London-Southend-Brighton area. > > > > However, I have been happily using these images for a bit less than a year > > now, so I'm looking for advice on How to redact. I've tagged all the > > relevant changesets with the name of the TMS, so it should be possible. > > > > 1. Is there an overpass syntax that would let me download (to JOSM) - all > > ways with addr:housenumber added or changed via a changeset with a certain > > source tag? (and not updated by something else later) > > 2. Could I then wipe all such addr:housenumbers and re-upload? > > 3. Could I keep a JOSM session file around to reupload the > > addr:housenumbers once the scanner's copyright has elapsed? > > > > > > > > This has come to light thanks to IpswitchMapper's tireless efforts to set > > up a tasking manager for adding housenumber, and thank to Rob-from-OSMF's > > communications with NLS. > > > > --- > > https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain > > spiregrain_...@ksglp.org.uk > > > > On Mon, 16 Nov 2020, at 10:55 AM, Ken Kilfedder wrote: > >> Hi Mark, > >> > >> If there is absolute confidence in that, can it be added to the wiki page > >> here: > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Library_of_Scotland > >> > >> And can it be added to the default set of old maps in JOSM? > >> > >> If it is available for use, not point in keeping it a secret. > >> > >> --- > >> https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain > >> spiregrain_...@ksglp.org.uk > >> > >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, at 6:47 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 30/10/2020 18:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Oct 30, 2020, 16:28 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org: > >>>> > >>>> It has come to my attention that the "Town Plan" map from 1944-1967 > >>>> in NLS is available freely. > >>>> > >>>> What are its licensing terms? > >>>> > >>>> "available freely" does not mean "compatible with OSM license" > >>> > >>> It's out of copyright, so there aren't any licensing issues in deriving > >>> data from it. > >>> > >>> I would, though, be a little reluctant to use it as a basis for > >>> wholesale numbering without any supporting local knowledge or survey. > >>> House numbers can, and sometimes do, change, particularly when streets > >>> are renamed or rebuilt. So you can't be 100% certain that a house number > >>> in the 1950s is the same number it is now, even if the building is still > >>> the same. > >>> > >>> Mark > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Talk-GB mailing list > >>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk-GB mailing list > >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > > -- > Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) > http://compton.nu/ > _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb