Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

Good idea - I've added a pull request to Osmose https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/pull/714 - please take a look and weigh in if you think it could be improved. On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 4:47 PM Ken Kilfedder wrote: > Is it worth adding this to Osmose and the other QA tools? > > --- > https:

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

Hi Edward, On 18/12/2019 16:31, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: Further to this - if you want to look for barrier=kerb + highway=crossing nodes in your area, which may be disrupting routing, the Overpass query is node["barrier"="kerb"]["highway"="crossing"] : https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/P5YJa

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

It sounds like traffic_calming=table (not 100% sure). 18 Dec 2019, 17:20 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org: > Returning to the original issue, I think I've worked out what the problem is. > It's that on a crossing node, kerb=* is fine (it describes the > presence/attributes of the kerb on the subsid

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

On 18/12/2019 16:26, David Woolley wrote: > On 18/12/2019 15:59, Robert Skedgell wrote: >> It's parking a car on a >> footway which is illegal in London (an offence which is only subject to >> civil enforcement), unless explicitly allowed by the local authority. > > It's potentially a criminal off

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

Is it worth adding this to Osmose and the other QA tools? --- https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain spiregrain_...@ksglp.org.uk On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, at 4:31 PM, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: > Further to this - if you want to look for barrier=kerb + highway=crossing > nodes in your area, whi

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

Thank you Edward Found one in Leicester, maproulette seagull adds barrier=kerb to crossing=toucan / kerb=lowered. Will fix. Cheers Phil (trigpoint) On Wednesday, 18 December 2019, Edward Catmur wrote: > Further to this - if you want to look for barrier=kerb + highway=crossing > nodes in your a

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

Further to this - if you want to look for barrier=kerb + highway=crossing nodes in your area, which may be disrupting routing, the Overpass query is node["barrier"="kerb"]["highway"="crossing"] : https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/P5Y On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 4:20 PM Edward Catmur wrote: > Returning to

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

On 18/12/2019 15:59, Robert Skedgell wrote: It's parking a car on a footway which is illegal in London (an offence which is only subject to civil enforcement), unless explicitly allowed by the local authority. It's potentially a criminal offence anywhere see sub-paragraph 17 of

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

Returning to the original issue, I think I've worked out what the problem is. It's that on a crossing node, kerb=* is fine (it describes the presence/attributes of the kerb on the subsidiary highway) but barrier=kerb should *not* be used. Combining kerb=* with highway=crossing is blessed by Wiki:

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

On 18/12/2019 15:36, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Wednesday, 18 December 2019, David Woolley wrote: >> On 18/12/2019 13:31, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: >>> That said, the same goes for cars - other than the lowest bodied sports >>> cars, pretty much all motor vehicles are capable of taking a ker

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

On Wednesday, 18 December 2019, David Woolley wrote: > On 18/12/2019 13:31, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: > > That said, the same goes for cars - other than the lowest bodied sports > > cars, pretty much all motor vehicles are capable of taking a kerb at low > > speed. > > Although raised ker

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

On 18/12/2019 13:31, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: That said, the same goes for cars - other than the lowest bodied sports cars, pretty much all motor vehicles are capable of taking a kerb at low speed. Although raised kerbs are generally there to stop that happening and the resultant tres

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

I think your new mapping is correct, as it reflects reality - which is what most matters. You could improve it by curving the cycle path/sidewalk up to the crossing and aligning the kerb nodes to the aerial photo, but that's nitpicking. That said, there's still a problem in that at least one routi

[Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

Hi, After investigating two reports of OSRM routing failures around North Tyneside, the common factor I can see is barrier=kerb tags added to highway=crossing nodes intersecting highway=tertiary and highway=cycleway/ footway ways. Here are links to the two map note reports: https://www.open