Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-12 Thread Peter Miller
Just spotted all the activity on this thread which is great to see. Personally I am reasonably neutral on what policy emerges from this conversation. I do agree that few schemes are really really certain until the diggers arrive. By way of example, I personally removed the Longdendale bypass ( htt

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-12 Thread Lester Caine
Jason Cunningham wrote: (just noticed my work on the South Devon Link Road and surrounding area has been deleted, then the same info re-added by someone else! I've been cleansed from the history.) This is the more 'irritating' bit here. People spending a substantial amount of time doing work t

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread Jason Cunningham
This subject kind of came up when the HS2 route was announced and made available as open data. I didn't agree with that proposed route being added to Openstreetmap, because I didn't feel the likelihood of it happening was high enough. Below is my, slightly amended, views on 'proposed' routes *"I'v

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread Lester Caine
David Earl wrote: http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a11-fiveways-to-thetford-improvement/ Yes indeed, it's true, they have been clearing the trees through the forest alongside the existing road and levelling the ground. It's been closed overnight in sections to do this so I had to

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/12/2012 12:29, Andy Robinson wrote: From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] wrote: Sent: 11 December 2012 12:16 Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM On 11/12/2012 11:18, John Sturdy wrote: Yes

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread Dave F.
On 11/12/2012 12:29, Andy Robinson wrote: http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a11-fiveways-to-thetford-impr ovement/ Great. Then tag the fencing, access tracks & construction site. They're physical. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstr

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread Andy Robinson
> From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] wrote: > Sent: 11 December 2012 12:16 > Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn > Statement in OSM > > On 11/12/2012 11:18, John Sturdy wrote: > > Yes --- adm

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread Dave F.
On 11/12/2012 11:18, John Sturdy wrote: Yes --- administrative boundaries, for example. __John Fine, but that's kind of missing the point. That boundary is physical in that it does actually exist in statute books & maps. The proposed autumn statement developments aren't (and probably won't

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread John Sturdy
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Dave F. wrote: > On 10/12/2012 08:18, Kevin Peat wrote: > > > On Dec 10, 2012 1:25 AM, "Dave F." wrote >> >> No. We should be mapping physical objects... > > There are plenty of non-physical objects mapped in OSM > > > As primary tags? Yes --- administrative boun

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-10 Thread Dave F.
On 10/12/2012 08:18, Kevin Peat wrote: On Dec 10, 2012 1:25 AM, "Dave F." > wrote > > No. We should be mapping physical objects... There are plenty of non-physical objects mapped in OSM As primary tags? Dave F. ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-10 Thread Lester Caine
Kevin Peat wrote: > No. We should be mapping physical objects... There are plenty of non-physical objects mapped in OSM but I don't see the point of adding road schemes to the db before contracts are awarded. The South Devon Link Road near me was in the planning stage for more than 25 years be

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-10 Thread Kevin Peat
On Dec 10, 2012 1:25 AM, "Dave F." wrote > > No. We should be mapping physical objects... There are plenty of non-physical objects mapped in OSM but I don't see the point of adding road schemes to the db before contracts are awarded. The South Devon Link Road near me was in the planning stage fo

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-09 Thread Dave F.
On 07/12/2012 14:10, SomeoneElse wrote: Peter Miller wrote: Just to say that I have added tagging and a relations for both of the main road schemes mentioned specifically in the Autumn Statement. Is there any actual benefit to doing this before construction actually starts? No. We should

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 7 December 2012 14:10, SomeoneElse wrote: > Peter Miller wrote: > >> Just to say that I have added tagging and a relations for both of the >> main road schemes mentioned specifically in the Autumn Statement. >> > > Is there any actual benefit to doing this before construction actually > starts

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-07 Thread Peter Miller
On 7 December 2012 14:10, SomeoneElse wrote: > Peter Miller wrote: > >> Just to say that I have added tagging and a relations for both of the >> main road schemes mentioned specifically in the Autumn Statement. >> > > Is there any actual benefit to doing this before construction actually > starts

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-07 Thread SomeoneElse
Peter Miller wrote: Just to say that I have added tagging and a relations for both of the main road schemes mentioned specifically in the Autumn Statement. Is there any actual benefit to doing this before construction actually starts? Until that point nothing on the ground has changed - only

[Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-07 Thread Peter Miller
Just to say that I have added tagging and a relations for both of the main road schemes mentioned specifically in the Autumn Statement. I have also updated a couple of other schemes to use the same tagging as outlined in prefix (: = ) method of tagging life-cycle details as outlined on the wiki her