0> In article <1535573378846-0.p...@n8.nabble.com>,
0> Richard Fairhurst mailto:rich...@systemed.net> ("Richard") wrote:
Richard> Toby Speight wrote:
>> That's why we have
>> rendering rules - if you don't like the rendering, change the rules.
Richard> What you're suggesting would imply that
All "ref" values are relative to some authority who is responsible for
maintaining the list. The "A1" in ref=A1 is not unique unless you
specify that (for example) the UK Department for Transport issued that
value. A C-number is still a valid ref, but the maintainer of the list
is a local council.
On 29/08/2018 20:32, Toby Speight wrote:
I consider it a "niche" that wants them hidden.
The vast, vast majority are hidden on the ground.
I don't see
that we have to mis-tag them all to have them hidden - I can see it
would be useful to have a map with less clutter, but it shouldn't be
On 29/08/2018 20:44, Toby Speight wrote:
0> In article ,
0> Dave F. mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> ("Dave") wrote:
Dave> Point about OSM wiki: IMO giving multiple options for the same
Dave> entity leads to confusion & errors so should be avoided.
That's exactly what's problematic about
Toby Speight wrote:
> That's why we have
> rendering rules - if you don't like the rendering, change the rules.
What you're suggesting would imply that every worldwide site using OSM data
to display a consumer-facing map, or provide routing, needs to write a
special exception for Great Britain.
0> In article ,
0> Dave F. mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> ("Dave") wrote:
Dave> Point about OSM wiki: IMO giving multiple options for the same
Dave> entity leads to confusion & errors so should be avoided.
That's exactly what's problematic about "highways_authority_ref": it
creates a tag
On 29/08/18 20:25, Toby Speight wrote:
Thanks for that - it predates my joining this list. It seems to (partially)
answer only my first question - it's to benefit those who don't like their
rendering (on paper/screen or on a navigation device). That's why we have
rendering rules - if you don't
On 29/08/2018 20:25, Toby Speight wrote:
Thanks for that - it predates my joining this list. It seems to (partially)
answer only my first question - it's to benefit those who don't like their
rendering (on paper/screen or on a navigation device). That's why we have
rendering rules - if you
0> In article <1535456684095-0.p...@n8.nabble.com>,
0> Richard Fairhurst mailto:rich...@systemed.net> ("Richard") wrote:
Richard> Toby Speight wrote:
>> Who is responsible for coordinating the related changes to software -
>> editors, renderers, converters and QA tools - that are required? I
>>
0> In article
,
0> Andrew Hain mailto:andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk> ("Andrew") wrote:
Andrew> Toby, I really think you need to read through the conversation
Andrew> archived at
Andrew>
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2018-August/thread.html
Andrew> and answer the points
On 28/08/18 12:54, webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote:
The objection is that you are undoing the effort and time spent by mappers
The data has not been destroyed, just more correctly tagged.
In general most of this information can only be obtained from armchairs,
so it is irrelevant as to
Toby Speight wrote:
> Who is responsible for coordinating the related changes to software -
> editors, renderers, converters and QA tools - that are required? I
> see no sign of any of this having started.
No changes are required to core OSM software, but if your own niche requires
a map on
Hi Toby
You've been given the link to the previous discussions, which explains
the reasons.
What is your objection to the reasons given for this amendment?
The wiki is a guide, not the law. It hasn't been updated yet as you &
others still wish to discuss the situation. If it had, I suspect
Hi Adam
On 28/08/2018 08:35, Adam Snape wrote:
The UK tagging guidelines have always advised against using the ref
tag:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines
although you'll notice from that there's still no overall agreement on
exactly which other tag to
Hi Tony,
Please do read the conversation, but I think it's important to stress that
no one is changing the standard tagging here. It has never been standard
to map unsigned references for tertiary/unclassified roads under the ref
tag; indeed there has long been a consensus against doing so.
The
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From: Toby Speight
Sent: 27 August 2018 19:15
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Road refs
Recently, all the tertiary roads in my region had their ref tags
removed, and replaced with "highways_authority_ref". A week later the
unclassified and residential roads suffere
Recently, all the tertiary roads in my region had their ref tags
removed, and replaced with "highways_authority_ref". A week later the
unclassified and residential roads suffered similar attack.
* Who is supposed to benefit from hiding these data?
* Who is responsible for documenting what this
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