Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-10 Thread Steve Doerr
From: "Robert Scott" > That's great! I can stop reading about Harris operators. I totally agree > about orthogonal snapping. Orthogonal snapping would be useful more generally - do any of the editors have this feature for manually drawn buildings etc.? -- Steve __

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-10 Thread Glenn Proctor
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: > Orthogonal snapping would be useful more generally - do any of the editors > have this feature for manually drawn buildings etc.? JOSM has an "Orthogonalise shape" option which is very useful for buildings. Glenn. __

Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView accuracy: caution!

2010-04-10 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Kevin Peat wrote: > > On 9 April 2010 18:40, Robert Scott wrote: > >> >> Hasn't one of OSM's (many) mantras been "doesn't matter if it's >> approximate: someone can always improve it later" or "rough is better than >> nothing"? Sure, some of the OS data is rough, b

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-10 Thread Ed Avis
Simon Ward writes: >Having looked at some of the StreetView data aroud my area, it is not >very accurate at all (probably out of date). > >This isn’t something we can just blindly import, trace, or otherwise use >and assume it’s of better quality. In areas where we already have some mapping cove

Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView accuracy: caution!

2010-04-10 Thread Ed Avis
Kevin Peat writes: >Maybe some people will be put off if the empty areas are filled in with OS data >so they don't have a blank canvas but I bet there are just as many people out >here not knowing where to start who would add street names and POIs and >clean-up >any OS errors. I think the histo

Re: [Talk-GB] Separation of sources

2010-04-10 Thread Ed Avis
Simon Ward writes: >I’d just like to see something where ground surveyed data is the >ultimate, and it’s not clear to me that it is the ultimate now. I've done a fair bit of ground surveying, but all of it has been from the starting point of an existing map - usually one traced from the aerial i

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-10 Thread Dave Stubbs
> It's worth noting that the Yahoo aerial photography is also out of date; in > some > cases [1] people have traced streets from the photo which bear no relation to > what's on the ground.  Yet nobody suggests we should stop tracing from it. Yes they do. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/t

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-10 Thread Ed Loach
Glenn wrote: > JOSM has an "Orthogonalise shape" option which is very useful > for buildings. And a terracer plugin which I find useful for converting traced buildings to semi-detached* (or however many) properties. Ed * Slight issue when the width of the two semi-detached houses together is le

[Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-10 Thread TimSC
Hi again, thanks for the comments. > How well would this scale up to the whole country? (!! Not automatically > importing the results of course !!) I'm thinking about tile/batch sizes, tile > boundary issues, I was thinking about using a sliding window approach, by loading in an extra margin fr

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-10 Thread Robert Scott
On Saturday 10 April 2010, TimSC wrote: > Converting edge fragments to polygons is the slow step at the moment - > about 15 minutes a tile. I am using the approach describe in the link > below. Fortunately, I know a bit of Boost.Python and C++ if we need the > speed. I suspect a better algorithm

Re: [Talk-GB] Nonsense edits in Durham & London - revert required

2010-04-10 Thread Gregory
Well spotted ddixon, some of those edits seem like clear "he he, you can change wikipedia to say what you like" edits. There have just been some accidental deletes in Canada and it seems like the way to deal with them is manually. > To undelete a way, press u, wait 5–10 seconds for the deleted way

Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView accuracy: caution!

2010-04-10 Thread Dave F.
Tim François wrote: > I think OS *is* more accurate on the whole, I think you're probably correct, but the problem arises when we *assume* that it's more accurate in areas where we're not knowledgeable of what's on the ground. That's not to say we shouldn't map, but I think we should, as we've

Re: [Talk-GB] VectorMap District: Completely crazy idea, maybe, but...

2010-04-10 Thread Dave F.
Mike Harris wrote: > The lack of public right of way information is disappointing - but it > is within OSM's capabilities to walk and map it. However, the lack of > field boundary information is a serious deficiency as these are > invaluable in practice to walkers attempting to plan, navigate,

Re: [Talk-GB] VectorMap District: Completely crazy idea, maybe, but...

2010-04-10 Thread Lester Caine
Dave F. wrote: > Mike Harris wrote: >> The lack of public right of way information is disappointing - but it >> is within OSM's capabilities to walk and map it. However, the lack of >> field boundary information is a serious deficiency as these are >> invaluable in practice to walkers attempting