On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:38 PM Martin Wynne wrote:
> Sometimes deciding what is and isn't a gate is tricky. Is this a gate?
>
To me that's very clearly a gate 路♂️
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Sometimes deciding what is and isn't a gate is tricky. Is this a gate?
http://85a.uk/beware_bull_960x772.jpg
If not, what is it? Should it be mapped at all?
cheers,
Martin.
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On 26 July 2019 13:35:30 BST, Tony Shield wrote:
>Following on from SilentSpike's import of NaPTAN/Aberdeen I am planning
>
>to perform a similar import for Lancashire.
>
>I've created a wiki page
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Lancashire which I have
>coped
>from SilentSpike
That's always an issue with imported data, the tag naptan:verified helps
in this respect.
In the Lancashire dataset there are HAR (Hail and Ride) and CUS
(Customary) stops which I think are virtual - there is no mark on the
ground, these will not be imported, so I think we have the main
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:08 PM Silent Spike
wrote:
> It might be worth mentioning handling for stops present in NaPTAN which no
> longer exist.
>
To clarify, I mean stops marked as active which are no longer physically
there (implying the NaPTAN record is outdated).
No objections from me obviously!
I like that you included handling for records marked as deleted in NaPTAN.
Not something I considered until it was brought up after my import.
It might be worth mentioning handling for stops present in NaPTAN which no
longer exist. I've been following the
On 2019-07-26 15:47, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 26/07/2019 13:28, David Woolley wrote: On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen
> Colebourne wrote: unless there is an explicit "private" sign
> There is no legal need for "private" signs. The default assumption should be
> that everything is private
... in
On 26/07/2019 13:28, David Woolley wrote:
On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
unless there is an explicit "private" sign
There is no legal need for "private" signs. The default assumption
should be that everything is private
... in England and Wales. Scotland is somewhat more
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 1:15 PM Martin Wynne wrote:
> The tag is *barrier*=gate.
>
> A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be
> tagged as such. At least not across a way.
>
It's a common mistake to interpret keys to match their corresponding word
definitions. The
On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
unless there is an explicit "private" sign
There is no legal need for "private" signs. The default assumption
should be that everything is private (even though the OSM default is
mainly the opposite).
In my part of the country, garden front
Following on from SilentSpike's import of NaPTAN/Aberdeen I am planning
to perform a similar import for Lancashire.
I've created a wiki page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Lancashire which I have coped
from SilentSpike Aberdeen and changed the areas, also slightly altered
the
Op vr 26 jul. 2019 om 13:15 schreef Martin Wynne :
>
> The tag is *barrier*=gate.
>
> A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be
> tagged as such. At least not across a way.
In OSM tagging, the definition isn't strongly tied to the literal
English meaning, but rather
The tag is *barrier*=gate.
A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be
tagged as such. At least not across a way.
You could add a separate node to one side of the way, and tag that as a
gate.
A gate which is often open, but sometimes closed, is just an ordinary
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 11:59, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2019-07-26 12:26, Gareth L wrote:
> This was discussed on the wiki
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dgate with the
> suggestion of using a status tag. And was also discussed (9 years ago?!)
>
On 26/07/19 21:06, Colin Smale wrote:
I guess what we are trying to get out of this, is:
a) as a router, can i feel free to route "Joe Public" through here?
If the gate is open - yes.
If the gate is closed and unlocked - yes.
If the gate is closed and locked - no.
I would expect an access
I guess what we are trying to get out of this, is:
a) as a router, can i feel free to route "Joe Public" through here?
b) as a router, how much time penalty should i factor in for passing
this gate?
Anything else?
On 2019-07-26 12:58, Warin wrote:
> To bring a little international
On 2019-07-26 12:26, Gareth L wrote:
> This was discussed on the wiki
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dgate [1] with the
> suggestion of using a status tag. And was also discussed (9 years ago?!)
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2010-May/thread.html
To bring a little international perspective to this.
In outback Australia the convention is "leave the gate as you found it".
Unfortunately there are some who don't.
To cope with this problem some gates are hung so that they close under
gravity.
To keep these open the farmer locks the gate
This was discussed on the wiki
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dgate with the suggestion
of using a status tag. And was also discussed (9 years ago?!)
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2010-May/thread.html
Tagging things as access=private does impact
On 26/07/2019 10:46, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
I'd like to distinguish between two kinds of gate on private roads:
- those where the gate is closed by default (eg automatic closing)
- those where the gate is open by default (the gate exists, but is
rarely if ever closed)
I'd suggest
If a gate opens automatically I would say it's an access=yes regardless of how
the way is tagged.
Cheers
Andy
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From: Stephen Colebourne [mailto:scolebou...@joda.org]
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Subject: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default
I'd
I'd like to distinguish between two kinds of gate on private roads:
- those where the gate is closed by default (eg automatic closing)
- those where the gate is open by default (the gate exists, but is
rarely if ever closed)
Currently I'm marking both as barrier=gate & access=private, but I
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