[talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 539

2020-12-02 Per discussione Tom Ka
Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 539 týdeníku WeeklyOSM: https://weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/13975 * Nabíječky pro auta. * Sdílení tras. * Chodník slávy. * 10 let WeeklyOSM. * Mapování pro bezpečnost. * Mapování Joe Bidena. * Výuka jízdy na kole. * Německé týdenní mapování. * Solární elektrárny UK. *

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione stevea
While I have travelled widely, I call California home (and have for several decades) so I unapologetically have a parochial perspective from the USA. Clifford, I deeply respect you, Frederik and many others in OSM: it is a global project about all of Earth (and its humanity, among other

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Clifford Snow
Frederik, I've had it with four years of listening to Trump. Not only don't I want to hear it on OSM but it's completely inappropriate for a mailing list. Can you please respond in a constructive manner. Thanks, Clifford On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 3:45 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/2/20

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Dec 3, 2020, 00:44 by frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > On 12/2/20 23:09, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> FB’s attribution to OSM is available to any viewer in a place that >> is commonly associated with attribution. >> >> Barely visible icon that must be clicked is not a standard place

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mike Thompson
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 2:56 PM Michal Migurski wrote: > In some specific cases there may be a conflict of interest where I’d > recuse myself, but in general it’s much more likely that FB and other > companies’ need for a high-quality, free, global map with a healthy org > behind it is *strongly

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/2/20 23:09, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > FB’s attribution to OSM is available to any viewer in a place that > is commonly associated with attribution. > > Barely visible icon that must be clicked is not a standard place for > attribution. Agree with Mateusz, and I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Niels Elgaard Larsen
Michal Migurski: Hi Robert, Martin, Alexandre, Jochen, Richard, Tom: Thanks for your followups in this conversation! I am speaking here as an individual and not on behalf of Facebook, great. ... First, the text of the ODbL is explicit about “reasonably calculated” awareness. FB believes

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Alexandre Oliveira
> First, the text of the ODbL is explicit about “reasonably calculated” > awareness. FB believes its maps comply with this. The ODbL does not require > that “every” person see the attribution. It requires that “any” person can. > FB’s attribution to OSM is available to any viewer in a place

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Phil Wyatt
Hi Michal,, > Successful attribution guidelines published by the OSMF will make it much > easier to decide how to interpret the ODbL. The problem is, I expect the current draft will not get support from the community so for me its back to my original question. Given the community

Re: [OSM-talk] time to review

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mario Frasca
Dear Steve, thank you for reminding me there's something called ESRI. they approached the Telegram group in March last year: https://t.me/Comunidad_OSM_Panama/1641 we were invited to a meeting, and I was able to accept the invitation.

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Dec 2, 2020, 22:50 by m...@teczno.com: > The ODbL does not require that “every” person see the attribution. It > requires that “any” person can. > Untrue. "notice associated withthe Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses,views, accesses, interacts with, or is

Re: [OSM-talk] time to review

2020-12-02 Per discussione john whelan
I would suggest that if someone could identify a list of mapping tasks suitable for beginners that might help this sort of thing happening again. I'd done a fair amount of validation of HOT tasks in the past which I'm sure are similar and I'm more than aware of the amount of effort needed to

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Michal Migurski
Hi Robert, Martin, Alexandre, Jochen, Richard, Tom: Thanks for your followups in this conversation! I am speaking here as an individual and not on behalf of Facebook, so I’m going to focus on the areas relevant to board candidacy. First, the text of the ODbL is explicit about “reasonably

Re: [OSM-talk] time to review

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mario Frasca
I forgot to include links to the tasks: in Colón I had created a project to assist a mapper from USA keep the rest of us informed about his progress, and as said YMUP requested a project on top of it.  I have marked as unavailable the area of their project.

Re: [OSM-talk] time to review

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mario Frasca
Hi Rory, let's include the list, so you're talking with the whole community, not just to me. BACKGROUND: we're trying to have the YouthMappers Chapter of the University of Panama consider they're mapping within OSM, that there's a local community of mappers already mapping, and with some

[Talk-pt] Tutoriais em vídeo

2020-12-02 Per discussione Alexandre Moleiro
Olá! Deixo aqui links para 2 tutoriais em vídeo que fiz: 1.Tomar notas de Voz com o OSMAND e editar com o JOSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35WRtD2Oi4E 2.Como usar o JOSM com queries Overpass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_utXmMgyU Não sei se existe um local onde estejam agregados

Re: [talk-cz] Dokumentace k instalaci traceru

2020-12-02 Per discussione Jan Macura
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:01, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Aktualizoval jsem > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:JOSM/Plugins/Tracer > a smazal z toho starý balast. > Díky moc, tohle chtělo! H. ___ talk-cz mailing list talk-cz@openstreetmap.org

[talk-cz] Dokumentace k instalaci traceru

2020-12-02 Per discussione Miroslav Suchy
Tak dneska na pivě jsme se dost bavili o Traceru a díky trpělivosti Mariana jsme si ho minimálně dva lidi nově rozchodili. Aktualizoval jsem https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:JOSM/Plugins/Tracer a smazal z toho starý balast. Takže pokud někdo chcete vyzkoušet Tracer, tak směle do toho. :)

Re: [talk-cz] Moderní komunikační kanál?

2020-12-02 Per discussione gebylist via talk-cz
Dne 02.12.2020 v 16:14 Jiri Vlasak napsal(a): komunikace přes email *je standardní* (nikoli poměrně.) OSM (nejen cz) komunita mailing listy používá s úspěchem po celém světě [1]. Já bych navíc dodal, že email má opravdu každý! Už jen proto, že registrace na kdejakých jiných komunikačních

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osmose + BANO = dégommer du rouge en mode turbo !

2020-12-02 Per discussione Marc_marc
Le 02.12.20 à 18:23, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : > faut-il nommer le footway qui traverse une place avec le nom de la place ? s'il n'y a aucun autre objet qui représente la place, c'est une amélioration de le faire ainsi non ? Bien sur faire une surface pour la place est encore mieux

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osmose + BANO = dégommer du rouge en mode turbo !

2020-12-02 Per discussione Jacques Lavignotte
Le 02/12/2020 à 17:48, Christian Quest a écrit : Est-ce vraiment un faux positif ? Si il n'y a pas d'autre highway... Un highway=service qui veut s'appeler « Place de la Vallée Beaujean » Mais ça c'est aux humains de filtrer... -- GnuPg : 156520BBC8F5B1E3 Because privacy matters. « Quand

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osmose + BANO = dégommer du rouge en mode turbo !

2020-12-02 Per discussione Christian Quest
C'est pas forcément souhaitable, mais quand il n'y a rien d'autre pour porter le nom de la place c'est ce que je fais (en tagguant un peu pour BANO, j'avoue). Le 02/12/2020 à 18:23, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : ok c'est un débat de modélisation du coup : faut-il nommer le footway qui traverse une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osmose + BANO = dégommer du rouge en mode turbo !

2020-12-02 Per discussione Florian LAINEZ
ok c'est un débat de modélisation du coup : faut-il nommer le footway qui traverse une place avec le nom de la place ? Perso je ne le fais pas, mais j'admet que le débat mérite d'exister. Le mer. 2 déc. 2020 à 17:48, Christian Quest a écrit : > Le 02/12/2020 à 14:44, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osmose + BANO = dégommer du rouge en mode turbo !

2020-12-02 Per discussione Christian Quest
Le 02/12/2020 à 14:44, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : la majorité des faux positifs est sur les highway=footway exemple type : suggestion d'ajouter name="place de l'église" sur une footway qui traverse la place principale. peut-être désactiver les footway ? Est-ce vraiment un faux positif ? Si il

Re: [talk-cz] Moderní komunikační kanál?

2020-12-02 Per discussione Marián Kyral
-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Jiri Vlasak Komu: R3gi , OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Datum: 2. 12. 2020 16:18:33 Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] Moderní komunikační kanál? "Ahoj, > Chápu, měnit zaběhnutné zvyklosti je obtížné. Koneckonců, u starých open source projektů je to běžný neduh. Ano,

Re: [talk-cz] Moderní komunikační kanál?

2020-12-02 Per discussione Jiri Vlasak
Ahoj, > Chápu, měnit zaběhnutné zvyklosti je obtížné. Koneckonců, u starých open > source projektů je to běžný neduh. Ano, komunikace přes e-mail je poměrně > standardní, ale už pouhým pohledem na přehlednost, strukturu, potažmo vzhled, > této jedné konverzace věřím uznáte, že není vhodná na

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osmose + BANO = dégommer du rouge en mode turbo !

2020-12-02 Per discussione Florian LAINEZ
la majorité des faux positifs est sur les highway=footway exemple type : suggestion d'ajouter name="place de l'église" sur une footway qui traverse la place principale. peut-être désactiver les footway ? Le mer. 2 déc. 2020 à 10:00, Christian Quest a écrit : > Oui, le matching est réglé pour

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bande cyclable étroite

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mathieu
> proposer class:* est donc revenir en arrière Je ne souhaite pas ressusciter cette clé :) >un tel mot est trop générique et finit par avoir tout et n'importe quoi pour le cycliste On est d'accord. Si j'ai parlé de la notion de confort, il ne me viendrait pas à l'idée de vouloir en faire un

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bande cyclable étroite

2020-12-02 Per discussione Marc_marc
Le 01.12.20 à 23:52, Mathieu a écrit : > Je viens de jeter un œil à class:bicycle pour donner le contexte, la clef class a été déprécié en 2006 en faveur de highway proposer class:* est donc revenir en arrière. pourquoi pas s'il y a des arguments, mais le principal argument contre que je constate

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Removal of 'unsuitable' content from an OSM-related site

2020-12-02 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Dec 2020, at 11:15, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > I don't have any terms of service - as a non-profit/research project it's all > quite informal consider setting up some simple terms, even short ones, where you deny all responsibility, liability and guarantee and

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Alexandre Oliveira
I would like to ask a question related to #1. Let's make a thought exercise. OSM provides geographical data, right? By definition, a map is a visualization of geographical and other types of data. In this case, a tile server is nothing more than the visual representation of the geographical data.

Re: [talk-cz] Zmeny v serverech na IPR Praha

2020-12-02 Per discussione Pavel Zbytovský
Ahoj, díky za info - Tomáš mi zavolal, tak jsem to teď opravil. Obě mapy mi nyní fungují na osmap.cz. P. On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tom Ka wrote: > Ahoj, diky za report, zkusim kopnout do zbyho, snad bude reagovat. > > Bye tom.k > > st 2. 12. 2020 v 0:14 odesílatel r00t via talk-cz >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Regrouper les activités d'une ferme

2020-12-02 Per discussione Marc_marc
Le 01.12.20 à 15:50, emeric Prouteau a écrit : > Il y a effectivement 3 activités différentes mais pratiquées par la même > entité (La ferme des 4 vents). Ce qui conduit à mettre le même "name" > sur tous les nœuds ou pas :) à mes yeux le magasin et la balade touristique ne porte pas le nom de la

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Removal of 'unsuitable' content from an OSM-related site

2020-12-02 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Hello Frederik, OK - thanks for that. That clears things up quite nicely I think. I have too many "day job" obligations at the moment to set it up as a business, but the thought has crossed my mind for the future. Thanks, Nick On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:03 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Removal of 'unsuitable' content from an OSM-related site

2020-12-02 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Hello Martn, I believe I 'probably' don't have any obligation, but I am just being cautious as we do appear to live in a very litigious world and I just want to be safe. It's a case of whether there is some automatic 'implied rights' for users when there are no terms of service. I don't have any

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Dec 2, 2020, 05:30 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > On 2/12/20 3:54 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: > >> >> >> >> Dec 1, 2020, 01:17 by >> 61sundow...@gmail.com>> : >> >>> On 1/12/20 12:18 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: >>> Nov 30, 2020, 13:10 by

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Removal of 'unsuitable' content from an OSM-related site

2020-12-02 Per discussione Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk
Dec 2, 2020, 09:49 by nickw4...@gmail.com: > I have contacted the company asking them if it was OK to delete their > panoramas (as the content is arguably 'inappropritate' for a walking-oriented > site) nd they replied to me, in a friendly and cooperative way, saying they > would setup

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Tom Hughes via talk
On 02/12/2020 09:27, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michal Migurski wrote: > FB’s attribution approach in keeping with best practices seen from other commercial users of display maps. In the spirit of Twitter footnoting one of Donald Trump's "I won the election" tweets, this is your respectful

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Removal of 'unsuitable' content from an OSM-related site

2020-12-02 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02.12.20 09:49, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > As I said I am paying for this out of my own money and do not want the > storage space to be used for purposes other than panos of walking trails. I think you have already done *much* more than can be expected of you. I would have removed the data

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 2. Dez. 2020 um 09:51 Uhr schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com>: > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 03:41, Michal Migurski wrote: > > > Facebook is in compliance with the ODbL license which requires that > attribution be “reasonably calculated to make any Person

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Jochen Topf
On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 07:36:24PM -0800, Michal Migurski wrote: > Facebook is in compliance with the ODbL license which requires that > attribution be “reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, > accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware” >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Removal of 'unsuitable' content from an OSM-related site

2020-12-02 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
IANAL, but why do you believe you could have any obligation to host their content on your server? Do you have terms of service? Cheers Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Michal Migurski wrote: > FB’s attribution approach in keeping with best practices > seen from other commercial users of display maps. In the spirit of Twitter footnoting one of Donald Trump's "I won the election" tweets, this is your respectful reminder that Google, Bing, Here, Tencent,

[Talk-it] Evento ASITA 2021: richiesta di invio contributi GFOSS

2020-12-02 Per discussione Stefano Campus
buongiorno a tutti, inoltro la comunicazione di Paolo Dabove, presidente dell'Associazione GFOSS.it, sulla richiesta di presentazione contributi per l'evento ASITA 2021. vi chiediamo di valutare l'opportunità di presentare qualche vostro lavoro attinente al tema software geografico libero e ai

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osmose + BANO = dégommer du rouge en mode turbo !

2020-12-02 Per discussione Christian Quest
Oui, le matching est réglé pour limiter les faux positifs. Petit rappel: cette analyse existe depuis 2016, elle a juste été un peu oubliée et était cassée comme le rendu depuis le passage à BANOv2. La preuve ici: http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/errors/graph.png?item=7170=32 Le

[OSM-legal-talk] Removal of 'unsuitable' content from an OSM-related site

2020-12-02 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Apologies - this is not directly related to OpenStreetMap itself but is related to a site of mine which uses OpenStreetMap data so I thought I'd post my question here to get opinions. I have been developing a site OpenTrailView (https://opentrailview.org) to collect 360 panoramas

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-02 Per discussione Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 03:41, Michal Migurski wrote: > Facebook is in compliance with the ODbL license which requires that > attribution be “reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, > accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware” > of OSM’s

Re: [talk-cz] Moderní komunikační kanál?

2020-12-02 Per discussione <0174
Ahoj, abych taky přidal pár kapek do mlýna - dvě věci, co tu ještě myslím nepadly: - Větvení tématu. Osobně používám Thunderbird a na druhém PC Gmail na webu. Thunderbird větvení řeší, umí (s občasnými chybami) větvit odpovědi podle toho, kdo na co odpověděl do stromové struktury. Většina lidí ale

[Talk-it] Richiesta informazioni su OpenStreetMap e COVID19 in Italia

2020-12-02 Per discussione Alessandro Sarretta
Buongiorno a tutte e tutti, insieme a Maurizio Napolitano e Marco Minghini stiamo cercando di raccogliere informazioni su come in Italia le informazioni geografiche, e in particolare mappe e dati OpenStreetMap, sono state usate a supporto del contrasto dell'emergenza COVID-19, con l'obiettivo