Re: [Talk-transit] maintenance is very time consuming on public transport routes

2013-12-03 Thread Mike N
On 12/3/2013 8:10 PM, Paul Schulz wrote: > Hi Mike, > Which tool were you using for GTFS? > The .NET tool at https://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/subversion/applications/utils/export/OSM2GTFS Plan on working directly in the debugger to work out issues in your data. I see another JavaScr

Re: [Talk-transit] maintenance is very time consuming on public transport routes

2013-12-03 Thread Paul Schulz
Hi Mike, Which tool were you using for GTFS? On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Mike N wrote: > On 12/3/2013 6:34 PM, Jo wrote: > >> Would it be useful to add all the starting times/ending times as well >> for a given route? This can be different depending on >> weekdays/Saturdays/Sundays/weekday

Re: [Talk-transit] maintenance is very time consuming on public transport routes

2013-12-03 Thread Mike N
On 12/3/2013 6:34 PM, Jo wrote: Would it be useful to add all the starting times/ending times as well for a given route? This can be different depending on weekdays/Saturdays/Sundays/weekdays during short school holidays/weekdays during long school holidays. How would we indicate that difference?

Re: [Talk-transit] maintenance is very time consuming on public transport routes

2013-12-03 Thread Jo
Adding time of day is not very easy to do. We don't add the schedules to OSM. I'm attempting it for school buses, where it's a time window in the morning and another around 4 (noon on Wednesdays), but I'm not adding many school bus routes. I have access to the timetables and what I do is create a

Re: [Talk-transit] maintenance is very time consuming on public transport routes

2013-12-03 Thread Paul Schulz
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Teuxe wrote: > Mike N a écrit : > > >On 12/1/2013 5:32 PM, Jo wrote: > >> Hmm, I was thinking of staying more or less within the lines of what > >we > >> have now, but take away the burden of 10, 20, 70 relations on the > >same > >> piece of road. > > > > I'm jus

Re: [Talk-transit] maintenance is very time consuming on public transport routes

2013-12-03 Thread Paul Schulz
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Arun Ganesh wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Jo wrote: > >> That sounds like a totally different ballpark, which will never fit in >> the organised way it's done here. So the model as it is now doesn't fit and >> what I'm proposing doesn't fit either

Re: [Talk-transit] maintenance is very time consuming on public transport routes

2013-12-03 Thread Paul Schulz
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Mike N wrote: > On 12/1/2013 5:32 PM, Jo wrote: > >> Hmm, I was thinking of staying more or less within the lines of what we >> have now, but take away the burden of 10, 20, 70 relations on the same >> piece of road. >> > > I'm just curious - what type of data con

Re: [Talk-transit] IFOPT-numbers for public transport platforms

2013-12-03 Thread Paul Schulz
Greetings, Andreas - Thank you for your comments and questions. I am replying because I have an interest in the data once it is in OSM, particularly in closing the loop with the Transport Authorities. eg. Get the Transport Authorities to provide the route data for OSM. The GTFS data format[1,2] ma

Re: [Talk-transit] IFOPT-numbers for public transport platforms

2013-12-03 Thread Richard Mann
UK bus stops all have codes (taken from the NaPTAN import), for example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/533877725 If it's not displayed on the stop, any reference should be prefixed with the source. That stop also has a publicly-displayed code which is tagged as ref=69345648. This is actually

[Talk-transit] IFOPT-numbers for public transport platforms

2013-12-03 Thread Andreas Uller
Dear list,   First I'd like to say hello, my name is Andreas, and I consider it one of my main priorities in OSM to map things related to public transport (routes, stops) in my home city of Graz, Austria and beyond.   The bus and tram lines in Graz are complete for quite some time now, so I star