[Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Clay Smalley
So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are old versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this is? Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city? I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for OSM, if we're

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Kathleen Danielson
I only know a little about Burning Man (seriously, just what I read in Cory Doctorow's Homeland), but mapping BRC makes sense to me. Is it on the exact same location every year? In that case it seems like it would make sense to update the map annually. If they are on different parts of the

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Elliott Plack
Just as a note of interest, on my way to SOTMUS this year in San Francisco, I'm pretty sure we flew over Black Rock City. I took some pictures out of the plane window: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/kfjpmgydqcser3v/tqkMPNPrCw(link to pictures). -Elliott On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Kathleen

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Michal Migurski
Black Rock City moves slightly each year, to minimize impact on any particular spot in the playa. The streets are also given new names, and the city expands to accommodate additional population growth. It's effectively a totally new geography each time. Mikel has been involved in the project

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
Hi All, Mikel and I did the original mapping, and its now a few years out of date. I have access to the data for this year, but its always a sensitive topic about when it can be released. Let me do a little bit of research and report back in a few days. Jeff On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: Black Rock City moves slightly each year, to minimize impact on any particular spot in the playa. The streets are also given new names, and the city expands to accommodate additional population growth. It's effectively a

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Do we have shapefiles for previous years? Even if we can't do 2013 yet it might be fun to work on the last couple of years. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: Black Rock City moves

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Steven Johnson
I'm almost certain that Mikel was involved in one, or both of those '08/'09 efforts to map Black Rock City. Worth contacting him about what it would take to re-do it for 2013. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
I believe we have data all the way back to 2006 and have the information needed to construct them for past years all the way back to the first year in the desert. Kathleen, you can follow up with Andrew Johnstone and...@adjohnstone.com as he is closest to the BRC org and can help track that stuff

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected Migurski with the people in the Bay Area that have all the data and hoping he can help get everything together so it can go into the map. Jeff On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Steven

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Michal Migurski
I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first last: 2001) so I won't be able to follow up. Sorry! -mike. On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote: He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
No worries, I will see if I can get the data together and pass it off to someone that can do something with it. Potentially Mikel. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first last: 2001) so I won't be

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Clay, does this give you something to work with? On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first last: 2001) so I won't be able to follow up. Sorry! -mike. On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Jeffrey Johnson

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread stevea
Kathleen Danielson wrote: Are any OSM folks going to be at Burning Man this year? Not this year, but I have been 11 times total. First year: 1995. I consider the playa a second home. I agree that preserving old BRC-scapes in OSM is cool, but if there is confusing overlap with the

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Mikel Maron
Yea, 2008/2009 is now in OpenHistoricalMap (site down now of course!). I'd like to get all the past years in there too. Even Mike's 2001 experience ;). We could remove these from OSM ... but I only think it's worth it after this years BRC is up there. I can lend some advice for this year, but

Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-08-05 Thread James Mast
I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie

Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-08-05 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit