Re: [Talk-us] NAIP Imagery Servers -- Need Assistance Setting Up in JOSM

2014-07-03 Thread Michael Patrick
> > > Yep, looks like the USGS server is throwing 500's for the endpoints that > I > > was using. We'll have to wait for them to fix it, I suppose. > > Bummer. MSR (aka Terraserver from way back) also seems to be down. > Try the NRL Geospatial Computing Tile Server at the Geospatial Computing Sect

Re: [Talk-us] Usage of exit_to

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-03 7:13 PM, Bill R. WASHBURN wrote: I like how clearly you explain the differences. Since destination= is so much more intuitive and so much more widely used, should we depreciate exit_to, indicate on the wiki that exit_to is depreciated, and make a concerted effort to migrate exit_

Re: [Talk-us] Usage of exit_to

2014-07-03 Thread Bill R. WASHBURN
I like how clearly you explain the differences. Since destination= is so much more intuitive and so much more widely used, should we depreciate exit_to, indicate on the wiki that exit_to is depreciated, and make a concerted effort to migrate exit_to exits to destination= exits? I'm not sure how th

[Talk-us] Usage of exit_to

2014-07-03 Thread Martijn van Exel
I explained it in a diary entry - feel free to comment there or here. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/22419 -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Martijn van Exel
Thanks for the input, Jason and others. I will work on this and should have something up next week. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Jason Remillard wrote: > Hi Martijn, > > I think it would be fine to put a scout section into the routing tag page. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping event in Baltimore

2014-07-03 Thread Martijn van Exel
We should also put it on the calendar: http://openstreetmap.us/calendar/ I don't remember the credentials / address for that calendar right now, ccing the board to make sure this event gets listed there! On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Patrick Maynard wrote: > A half dozen people have expressed

Re: [Talk-us] NAIP Imagery Servers -- Need Assistance Setting Up in JOSM

2014-07-03 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > Yep, looks like the USGS server is throwing 500's for the endpoints that I > was using. > > We'll have to wait for them to fix it, I suppose. Bummer. MSR (aka Terraserver from way back) also seems to be down. The only luck I've had lately for rec

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi Martijn, I think it would be fine to put a scout section into the routing tag page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing It should not be much text to describe what tags are used. Also, following the rest of this thread, the track/surface/etc tagging situation is very con

[Talk-us] Mapping event in Baltimore

2014-07-03 Thread Patrick Maynard
A half dozen people have expressed interest to me in a mapping party here in Baltimore. Here are some details: We meet at 11 a.m. at the Patterson Park Pakoda. Rain date TBA (so *please let me know* if you want to be individually placed on the contacts list). Since I'm hoping for a lot

Re: [Talk-us] NAIP Imagery Servers -- Need Assistance Setting Up in JOSM

2014-07-03 Thread Ian Dees
Yep, looks like the USGS server is throwing 500's for the endpoints that I was using. We'll have to wait for them to fix it, I suppose. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > I rebooted the caching server but it looks like the USGS server is having > a real hard time. I will look in

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/3/14 2:32 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Broderick > wrote: >> Highway=service implies a private road, though; > > Not always, service=alley can be public, can't they? > i'd say that most alleys i see are public. for obvious reasons they are little used

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Jason Remillard wrote: > Playing around with scout, I have discovered that it will not route > over tracks, cycleways, and paths unless you are in pedestrian mode. > It ignores access=destination, and the surface tag. Scout does not route cars over cycleways and p

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Broderick wrote: > Highway=service implies a private road, though; Not always, service=alley can be public, can't they? -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mail

Re: [Talk-us] NAIP Imagery Servers -- Need Assistance Setting Up in JOSM

2014-07-03 Thread Ian Dees
I rebooted the caching server but it looks like the USGS server is having a real hard time. I will look in more detail later. On Jul 2, 2014 10:33 PM, "Chris Lawrence" wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: > > If it helps, OSM-US hosts a tile proxy for the USGS-hosted NAIP

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Not necessarily. The case I tend to run into, these are extremely rural roads suitable only as a last resort (or for recreational rat runs across The Big Empty) and tend to be prone to irregular maintenance, unevenly graded, do not have snow removal, may have fords, variable in width and tend to b

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-03 18:26 GMT+02:00 Kevin Broderick : > Highway=service implies a private road, though; AFAIK only some service like service=driveway are generally private=yes, while parking _aisle, alley or generic service might be public roads. cheers, Martin _

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I think highway=service could be public or private, just a matter of if it is "used to access a certain building / facility" like Martin said. Some public examples could be road to a public parking lot, driveway in/out of fire station, road leading to a public works facility. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Kevin Broderick
Highway=service implies a private road, though; if a public road dead-ends at a single building or facility, it should be =residential or =unclassified, right? The tracktype= key is also not really applicable to many of the unmaintained roads around here, at least as described on the wiki. The des

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-03 17:36 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser : > Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as > unclassified or residential anyway? Or to ask a different way, assuming > that roads with houses should be tagged as residential, when should one tag > a sub-tertiary road as track vs.

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as unclassified or residential anyway? Or to ask a different way, assuming that roads with houses should be tagged as residential, when should one tag a sub-tertiary road as track vs. using unclassified? On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > For tracks, tracktype indicates condition, and tracktype1 should be > drivable by any family sedan as it may even be paved. This. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.ope