Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: On 03/31/2015 08:04 AM, Natfoot wrote: There is so many situations where to his naked eye on the ground he may not be able to see it. To a person like myself I can still find the signs on the earth of where the

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2015-03-31 23:12, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: For background, in the USA there is an intermediate step to abandonment. A corridor can be railbanked, meaning the easements don't expire. It's not an active railway, but it can be returned to rail service via an administrative procedure. And in fact,

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour - Next Monday

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: OpenHistoricalMap. Read about it here: http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/about but better still, come join the Mappy Hour next week. That is great! nice to hear about that project. Good job! -- James Michael DuPont

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Dupont
Here in Kansas we have very many abandoned railways (and many pickup trucks to replace them) that are turned into trails or paved over and still visible. I would say if there is any sign of them left to keep the information in some way. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Bryce Nesbitt

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/1/15 3:14 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: Here in Kansas we have very many abandoned railways (and many pickup trucks to replace them) that are turned into trails or paved over and still visible. I would say if there is any sign of them left to keep the information in some way. this is a

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Mark Bradley writes: Hello list. I have been communicating with a mapper who says he has been deleting abandoned railroads (the ones where the infrastructure is totally removed). Oh dear. The deletionists have migrated from Wikipedia to here. How do we stop them? Isn't it bad enough that

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)

2015-04-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Paul Norman writes: Without some kind of license giving permission, you cannot use other maps with OSM. April Fools! Yes, you can. There are many kinds of public domain maps whose republication needs no license. For example, in the US all maps published before the magic date, whatever year

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Minh Nguyen writes: On the ground, meanwhile, you'd tend to find no trespassing signs on railbanked ROWs, no? Railbanked railroads should always be tagged as railway=abandoned. The whole point is that they *haven't* been dismantled or razed or destroyed or whatever word you want to use for a

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I understand keeping a feature in OSM if there is a remnant of the railroad, but there are areas where everything has been replatted, regraded and redeveloped, yet there is still a razed feature in OSM (for one small example, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?#map=16/38.8663/-94.7943). This

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Brad Neuhauser writes: I understand keeping a feature in OSM if there is a remnant of the railroad, but there are areas where everything has been replatted, regraded and redeveloped, yet there is still a razed feature in OSM (for one small example, see

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us wrote: I'd imagine that most railbanked rights of way would be mapped with railway=disused (inactive tracks, possibly overgrown) or railway=abandoned (no tracks but an embankment, greenway, or clearing still present), as

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes: Hi, On 03/31/2015 08:04 AM, Natfoot wrote: There is so many situations where to his naked eye on the ground he may not be able to see it. To a person like myself I can still find the signs on the earth of where the railroad once was. Then map the signs