Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Rihards
On 29.08.19 05:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd > like to address the use of highway=trunk in general. > > I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and > expressway=yes, along with other details like lanes=, surface=,

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Bradley White
> For example, US Hwy 101 is the main route connecting the cities (e.g. > Eureka) and towns along the coast of northern California. Right now > only some segments are tagged as highway=trunk. I would like to > upgrade all of it to highway=trunk, up to Hwy 199, where most traffic > leaves 101 and he

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread stevea
I chime in as a North American (Upper Midwest, originally) that highway=trunk is a not-especially-clear semantic in OSM (here, let's say the lower 48). I understand the history of the tag but agree it is used to mean many things, widely, including in the states/regions/areas Joseph mentions; it

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I checked and motorroad=yes in used in Spain for "Autovias" which are like expressways, but they usually allow bicycles, just like many expressways in the USA. So the idea that motorroads prohibit bicycles and pedestrians is more specific to France, Germany and some other countries, while in other

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:15 PM stevea wrote: > > > Eeeeh, that's gonna be a hard sell for the most part, most Oklahoma > expressways are built like this as are parts of Interstate freeways, with > the only real difference between the two being at-grade intersections and > limited driveways (as o

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:05 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd > like to address the use of highway=trunk in general. > > I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and > expressway=yes, along with other details like lan

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Evin Fairchild
I totally agree with this! As I've stated before, I've long thought that most US highways should be tagged as trunk roads. Heck, someone recently tagged US 101 in Washington as trunk but I have no interest in changing it back because I agree with the way it's tagged. That would be more in line with

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread stevea
On Aug 28, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > So, the segment in question given in the example to me (I don't think the > response was intended only for me, so I'm not quoting the whole thing) is > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/14678570/. OpenStreetCam has footage from > November 2018

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd like to address the use of highway=trunk in general. I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and expressway=yes, along with other details like lanes=, surface=, maxspeed=, etc, to specify expressways, rather than

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:10 AM Kevin Kenny wrote: > 'Historic US 66' is a bannered and numbered route because of its > history, not because of its current importance to the road system. The > constituent ways should be tagged as whatever they are currently in > the road network. In many places,

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 7:04 AM stevea wrote: > Hi Paul, Hi Volker, Hi talk-us: > > The topic begs the question as to what such (usually very) old, > poor-condition (where they ARE poor) roads should be tagged (we limit > ourselves to US roads here because this is talk-us), and at what > granular

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:09 AM stevea wrote: > The topic begs the question as to what such (usually very) old, > poor-condition (where they ARE poor) roads should be tagged (we limit > ourselves to US roads here because this is talk-us), and at what granularity. > (Volker COULD do detailed ta

Re: [Talk-us] Historic 66 as highway=trunk in OK

2019-08-28 Thread stevea
Hi Paul, Hi Volker, Hi talk-us: The topic begs the question as to what such (usually very) old, poor-condition (where they ARE poor) roads should be tagged (we limit ourselves to US roads here because this is talk-us), and at what granularity. (Volker COULD do detailed tagging, but I hear loud