Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7

Sounds like a plan, Also, has anyone had luck contacting local Geocaching associations? I'm going to cross-post to the main talk list, but they would be a wealth of GPX files if nothing else. If it's planned right, we could cross-link local mapping parties to geocaching.com as events. -- Any id

[Talk-us] Decluttering LULC import - LANDUSE tag

I'm working on reviewing and updating the TIGER imports along the TN/GA border, and I noticed that GA is extremely cluttered in both mapnic and osmrender. I pulled up an area near my home in JOSM and it seems that there are quite a few landuse polygons that were imported from the USGS/LULC dataset

Re: [Talk-us] US Online Mapping Parties

Amen, I just spent the last 3 hours cleaning up the butchery TIGER made of the one-ways and ramp connections along I-75 from Exit 4 in TN to exit 350 in GA. I haven't even *started* to feed in the speed limit changes along the side-roads, which was the whole reason I started working on OSM (one t

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-newbies] Decluttering LULC import - LANDUSE tag

on=-85.1756&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF Chris On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Claudius wrote: > Am 10.07.2009 03:48, Chris Hunter: > > I'm working on reviewing and updating the TIGER imports along the TN/GA > > border, and I noticed that GA is extremely cluttered in both

Re: [Talk-us] Status of TIGER update

Looks like the 2008 data for my area (TN) just got uploaded about 5 hours ago if I did the time conversion right. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Richard Shank wrote: > I was wonder what the status is of the update with the 2008 TIGER data. > Who is handling that? Also, will part of this inclu

Re: [Talk-us] Prototype of newbie-safe semi-automated edits available

Excellent work. I can definitely see this as an attractant to both new users and experienced users who only have a few minutes of free time. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Dave Hansen wrote: > On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 22:58 -0400, Mark Gray wrote: > > OpenStreetMap Quick Check: > > > > http://v

[Talk-us] Need help with SHP2OSM Rules file

ted) Can I just create 1 separate line for each of the attribute abbreviations, or does SHP2OSM require a line for each attribute in each possible permutation? Thanks in advance, Chris Hunter ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http:

Re: [Talk-us] georgia road classifications

Sounds good to me. I was looking for some uniform way to handle the streets here in Tennessee too. --Original Message-- From: Kevin Sender: talk-us-boun...@openstreetmap.org To: Talk-us ReplyTo: ksamp...@uga.edu Subject: [Talk-us] georgia road classifications Sent: Sep 9, 2009 4:28 AM I

Re: [Talk-us] Unpaved streets

yes, yes, yes - this is the most sane summary of the road/track debate I've seen in quite a while. Of course, it also reopens the track/path argument, but I'll leave that to others to battle out. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Dale Puch wrote: > I have been reading thru these posts and havn't

Re: [Talk-us] Unpaved streets

Paul, Thanks for the reminder about the US Tagging page, I forgot to add it to my watchlist in the wiki and it's definitely grown since my last read-through. Regarding the whole road vs. track vs. path debate, I think the only way of resolving the whole track/tracktype ( http://wiki.openstreetmap

Re: [Talk-us] Unpaved streets

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: > On 09/09/2009 12:05 PM, Chris Hunter wrote: > > yes, yes, yes - this is the most sane summary of the road/track debate > I've > > seen in quite a while. Of course, it also reopens the track/path > argument, > >

[Talk-us] Need a changeset reverted - 2540459

Hi, Can someone please forward this to a moderator. There was a conflict between a changesets 2540459and2540726that's deleted most of the members in relationship 71023 (US Interstate I-75

[Talk-us] Truck Inspection Stations

ght now, I'm tagging the on/offramps as highway=service and leaving the parking areas off the map for now. Does anyone have a better suggestion? Chris Hunter DiverCTH ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Truck Inspection Stations

Oops, forgot to link an example - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.99212&lon=-82.14362&zoom=16&layers=B000FTFT&relation=71023 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Mailboxes, etc.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree here. Different countries *do*blur the line between shops and post offices. For example, I've visited Canada quite a few times, and quite a few drugstores sell stamps and accept mail for delivery under the Canada Post (canadian equivalent to USPS) sign. I

[Talk-us] Possible destructive bug in JOSM build 2417 - need someone to duplicate

My apologies if this has already been reported to the dev mailing list, but I've been running up against a critical/showstopper bug in JOSM 2417 for the past few days. Can someone please try and duplicate this "precondition failed" bug: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3884 Here is the chain

Re: [Talk-us] Possible destructive bug in JOSM build 2417 - need someone to duplicate

Thanks. Is 2439 available on the server yet, or is it still in alpha? I re-downloaded the latest beta a couple hours ago and the josm-latest.jar link was still pointing at 2417. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 21:01 -0500, Chris Hunter wr

Re: [Talk-us] Possible destructive bug in JOSM build 2417 - need someone to duplicate

Yeah, that's exactly what was happening to me. The best part is when you try to delete the "empty" way, the real way gets deleted instead. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Nakor wrote: > > > > My apologies if this has already been reported to the dev mailing list, >> but I've been running up

Re: [Talk-us] Possible destructive bug in JOSM build 2417 - need someone to duplicate

Wed, 2009-11-11 at 21:01 -0500, Chris Hunter wrote: >> >> >>> My apologies if this has already been reported to the dev mailing >>> list, but I've been running up against a critical/showstopper bug in >>> JOSM 2417 for the past few days. >>>

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging "next exit" services

Tag the first node of the offramp as highway=motorway_junction. As far as the sign itself goes, there's a proposed relationship for signs in the UK and EU at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign that may be of some help. Chris On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Alan Mintz

Re: [Talk-us] Super Wal-Mart Tag

I've been making a seperate node for each tag whenever I run into this situation. It's not the best solution, but it gets the job done. The best fix I can think of would probably require an API change, but it'd probably end up being easier on the database server in the long run. Basically, we nee

Re: [Talk-us] Super Wal-Mart Tag

That's what database normalization addresses. BTW, this is the first time I've heard of the semicolon approach. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > Unfortunately, that doesn't work. The tags must be unique on the name > side. That's why you see name, name_1, name_2. > > --

Re: [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

I'd like to take a look at Hamilton county, TN plz. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: > > We'll work on making sure that these data look good and I think some > > people have some plans on how to get these integrated a bit at a

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

Sensible government policy? When did that happen? My local county wants $10,680.00 for the political GIS data, and it's got a non-redistributable, non-commercial license on top of that. Aah - my tax dollars at play. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > Don't try to cast you

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

Oh, and $5/disk to burn it to DVD On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Chris Hunter wrote: > Sensible government policy? When did that happen? My local county wants > $10,680.00 for the political GIS data, and it's got a non-redistributable, > non-commercial license on top of that.

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter Mission Statement

on to promote the issues and concerns of OSM users in the United States. Anyone else have ideas? DiverCTH (a.k.a. Chris Hunter) On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > As many of you know, we're working on forming a US chapter of OSM. > > To that end

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter Mission Statement

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Just curious, > What is a protectorite? And why is it needed? > > Thanks, > Sam > > It's a pretty archaic idea - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectorate#United_States IIRC, only the Marshall Islands are still a protectorate. ___

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter Mission Statement

Oh, and Puerto Rico is a territory - although at least some of us mainlanders wish they'd make up their mind and either declare independence or ratify as a state. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Chris Hunter wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Sam Vekemans <

Re: [Talk-us] draft of mission statement on wiki?

I did a quick cut & paste of the discussion over to the discussion page - there were a few emails that I accidentally deleted instead of archiving, so if someone wants to go through the mailing list's archives, feel free. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_Sta

Re: [Talk-us] Decatur, Georgia dinner Wednesday, December 9

If anyone in the Chattanooga area would like to carpool, please email me. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Gray wrote: > We are hoping Thea Clay of Cloudmade will be able to make it as > well as people working on local imports of county GIS data. This > is not a mapping party, just a dinner

Re: [Talk-us] Import of EPA data

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:00 AM, David Fawcett wrote: > I don't support the import at this time either. > > I think that this type of data is far better queried from the source > at the time it is needed and mashed on top of OSM. States are > continually improving this data and pushing it up to

Re: [Talk-us] Import of EPA data

I ran across 2 misplaced / not immediately locatable points while mapping a local airport. Since I agree with David's take, I have deleted both. Changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3391401 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Chris Hunter wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 20

Re: [Talk-us] Import of EPA data

do feel that it would be useful to re-import once a review and a set of tags are agreed on. Sincerely, Chris (DiverCTH) On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Chris Hunter wrote: > I ran across 2 misplaced / not immediately locatable points while mapping a > local airport. Since I agree with Da

Re: [Talk-us] US OMSF proposal mission statement v2

Guess I'll go ahead and toss out the first ideas on this one too. I'll let someone else write the wiki this time around, but here's my list of potential spending priorities: 1 - Legal / Licensing (especially data acquisition @ the state and county government level) 2 - Mapping Party support (gett

[Talk-us] State of the license discussion.

Can anyone who's been following the licensing thread over on the talk@ list summarize the current state of the discussion? I tried to follow it for a while, but my mailbox was filling too fast. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://li

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Zipcode Import

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Anthony wrote: > > No, the code doesn't represent a geographic area. You can force it into a > geographic area, by defining the area in some particular way (e.g. a > multipolygon of all buildings which receive mail addressed to that zip > code). Of course, give

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Zipcode Import

Thanks Fredrick and Katie, Yes, this is how US ZIP (postcodes) work as well. I'm not a web programmer, but I assume most of the post-code based geolocation that websites use work off of a centroid and distance-vector approach. I agree that ZIPs are very useful for one-way geocoding, but not so u

Re: [Talk-us] Import of EPA data

Mike, Take a look at Dave Hansen's work with the US Census Bureau's TIGER data. I'm pretty sure he's on vacation at the moment, but some of his codebase might be useful for your project. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2009-November/002064.html ___

[Talk-us] Fw: script for adding layer=1 to bridges

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Chris Hunter" Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:49:46 To: Frederik Ramm Subject: Re: [Talk-us] script for adding layer=1 to bridges I agree with Fredrick that this comes perilously close to tagging for the renderer,

[Talk-us] Rollback request - 381206

User NE2 erroniously merged most of the US Interstate relations back into single relations. About 12 hours of my work was destroyed. Please roll back changeset 381206 if possible. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstree

Re: [Talk-us] Rollback request - 381206

t 20 minutes ago and I've been re-reading the mailing list archives to confirm that the old way still correct. I'm also in the process of emailing NE2, but I haven't hit send yet. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > Chris Hunter wrote:

[Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

with direction-based roles. I've already requested a roll-back on the area I was working on, but I wanted to check if we still have a consensus on splitting each interstate into separate directions at the state line. Chris Hunter DiverCTH ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

I don't think NE2 is on any of these mailing lists. Can someone put a temporary ban on their account? They've been editing all day. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 2/7/10 9:23 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > >> >> What's more annoying is that he is changing the names/refs.

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

Oh, and yes I did contact them via both the OSM Messaging system and the WIKI's messaging system. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Chris Hunter wrote: > I don't think NE2 is on any of these mailing lists. Can someone put a > temporary ban on their account? They've

[Talk-us] Fwd: [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying InterstateRelations

in the WIKI. From what I can see, it looks like there's no clear winner between the two systems, although quite a few Interstates are still missing supers. I'm happy to use either method, but one of the reasons why I prefer the 1-relation-per-direct

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying InterstateRelations

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:07 PM, John Smith wrote: > >> >> >> Why does there need to be 2 relations for this? >> >> besides editing convenience a relation is directed and sorted since API > 0.6 You can see it as a route to follow from

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

Yes, I know it's arguably tagging for the renderer, but can someone else update the WIKI to explain how mkgmap, mapnik, and osmarender handle the ref tag? AFAIK NE2 is tagging for the editor in this case. Thanks, Chris Hunter DiverCTH On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Richard Welty wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] minutes from February 25th US chapter conference call

My apologies for missing the call this week. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > the minutes may be found here: > > http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc9fx534_0fw84rg6f > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > htt

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

Definitely a good idea! My only concern would be to make sure the way is correctly included in the route relationship(s) before deleting the ref=* tags. Maybe a bot could do this? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Zeke Farwell Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:28:00 T

Re: [Talk-us] plea for bot quality control

Perhaps a bot to auto-ban accounts that are running unauthorized bots ;) Seriously though, I've all-but stopped contributing to the map until after the SOTMs because of issues like this. One of the other things that OSM desperately needs is a way to coordinate tagging across editors and renderers

[Talk-us] Resigning in protest

, etc... Please respect my wishes and do not undelete these objects. Sincerely, Chris Hunter DiverCTH ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Resigning in protest

I'm basing my decision on the ODbL roadmap ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan), Why you should vote Yes ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Why_You_Should_Vote_No) and Why you should vote No ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_Li