On 10/21/2010 07:12 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauerha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.comwrote:
So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg
NYC) county=6 township=7
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 07:12 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauerha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
The point of admin_level is *not* primarily to record which governments
are
above another. It’s to indicate
This discussion, although amazingly lengthy is seeming useful. Someone
already explained that much of New England is different from most of the
United States in terms of not having unicorporated areas, and it might
help to explain details.
In Massachusetts, we have counties. Counties don't do
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
Only in those 11 states, right?
I'm surprised admin level isn't already handled defined on a state by
state level.
Why treat it
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes:
Read the link you provided: In the remaining nine town or township
states (Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Dakota,
Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Wisconsin), there is no
geographic overlapping of these two
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg
NYC) county=6 township=7 city/town=8 then it would make sense
everywhere.
What would be an example of a township that would be at admin_level=7?
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM,
On 10/20/2010 03:47 PM, Anthony wrote:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_civil_division
So far all (three) of the states I've checked fit fine with
admin_level=6 for county equivalent, and admin_level=8 for
municipality.
I’ve recorded what I’ve found at
On 10/20/2010 03:59 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthonyo...@inbox.org wrote:
At the very least it would be nice to have a table outlining exactly
what municipality or minor civil division means for each state.
Is there one somewhere already? Should I start one?
On 10/20/2010 03:59 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthonyo...@inbox.org wrote:
At the very least it would be nice to have a table outlining exactly
what municipality or minor civil division means for each state.
Is there one somewhere already? Should I start one?
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:59 PM, Anthony wrote:
Can someone please turn off my need to constantly enter a capatcha
(User:User_5528)?
Is it because you’re adding external references? That always triggers a
CAPTCHA…
I can't be
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg
NYC) county=6 township=7 city/town=8 then it would make sense
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:02 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2010/10/20 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com:
Aren't admin_level and place getting at slightly different things?
admin_level is to mark official political/legal boundaries. place is to
mark
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Andrew S. J. Sawyer assaw...@gmail.com writes:
My thoughts are mixed in below.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com writes:
tagging
Pennsylvania township administrative lines were added with the Tiger 2000
import, they do not have point data associated with them, and I have found
them to be mostly correct in location. I don't believe there is any reason
to add these municipalities as places on the map as point data, for they
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
(4) some people correctly use the place=* tag to reflect the government of
a place rather than the population because they put the population in the
population=* tag.
Fixed for you.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
map.
I think you're right here, though I probably would indicate the
township
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
Perhaps we need to shift the discussion to actually figuring out a better
replacement for place=*?
place=incorporated?
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Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
map.
I think you're right here, though I
On 10/20/2010 02:42 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Alex Mauerha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
Perhaps we need to shift the discussion to actually figuring out a better
replacement for place=*?
place=incorporated?
I’d try to find something that wouldn’t exclude
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
understanding is you won’t find a chunk of
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote:
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:
There are townships in
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
understanding is you won’t find a chunk of
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
Only in those 11 states, right?
I'm surprised admin level isn't already handled defined on a state by
state level.
Why treat it differently depending on the state?
Because states
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
None of this has anything to do with place=*, which discusses
settlements, not administrative divisions.
IOW, a municipality may also be a settlement, but then, it may not be.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:24 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Not all US states use the same administrative hierarchy.
Yeah, but for example we use the same admin_level regardless of whether it’s
called a county, a borough, or a
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
At the very least it would be nice to have a table outlining exactly
what municipality or minor civil division means for each state.
Is there one somewhere already? Should I start one?
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: School districts can comprise of one single
municipality, like the School District of Philadelphia or can comprise
of multiple municipalities.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: School districts can comprise of one single
municipality, like the School District of
To save you some work, you might look at this report, Government
Organization, published in 2002 by the Census:
http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/gc021x1.pdf
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
At the
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Brad Neuhauser
brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote:
To save you some work, you might look at this report, Government
Organization, published in 2002 by the
Census: http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/gc021x1.pdf
Oh, I'm only planning on doing PA, NJ, and FL. Also
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
At the very least it would be nice to have a table outlining exactly
what municipality or minor civil division means for each state.
Is there one somewhere already? Should I start one?
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Oh, I'm only planning on doing PA, NJ, and FL. Also maybe NY, as it's
the other one of the four states I've lived in.
Okay, well, I started New York, and concluded that it doesn't fit into
the design of admin_levels.
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[New York
Not that it matters greatly for this discussion, but in Minnesota
municipalities do include cities and townships. Ex:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?year=2010id=462.352 (subd. 2) or
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=200.02 (subd. 9). Definitions
aren't the same in every state...
On
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Oh, I'm only planning on doing PA, NJ, and FL. Also maybe NY, as it's
the other one of the four states I've lived in.
Okay, well, I started New York, and concluded
On 10/20/2010 05:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Why can't something with admin_level=x cross a border with admin_level
less than x? There are a lot of cities that are in more than one
county.
Agreed, though I think New York City is a special case since it actually
encompasses several counties
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
I’d put town at 7, city and village at 8, based on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_New_York#Town and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_New_York#Village
Specifically,
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 05:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Why can't something with admin_level=x cross a border with admin_level
less than x? There are a
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 10/20/2010 05:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Why can't something with
On 10/20/2010 05:51 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Alex Mauerha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
I’d put town at 7, city and village at 8, based on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_New_York#Town and
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem is that currently we dont have a discrete tag for place=township
and all admin_level= are =8
so, half a question, half a statement of intent, unless someone argues me
down from the ledge...
I'm going to
Aren't admin_level and place getting at slightly different things?
admin_level is to mark official political/legal boundaries. place is to
mark a...well...place that has a name, and the
place=city|town|village|hamlet does not necessarily align with the type of
government (if any) of the place.
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