> Long term, it would be nice to separate these notions and have some
> highway:importance key for that, and leave the road type notion that
> separates primary/trunk/motorway alone (or move it to some other tag,
> and get rid of highway=trunk and highway=motorway).
Ideally, this is what
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:05 PM Greg Troxel wrote:
> Tod Fitch writes:
>
> > My reading of the wiki indicates that for the United States a trunk is
> “a high speed Arterial Divided highway that is partially grade separated.”
> [1]
> >
> > What is the problem with having the main road between
>
Bradley White writes:
> The lack of consistent highway tagging in the US is one of the biggest
> sources of frustration with this project as a whole to me. IMO, the US
> community needs to make a decision to *either*:
>
> 1. Use 'trunk' to mean "major cross-country highway" and orthogonalize
>
Tod Fitch writes:
> My reading of the wiki indicates that for the United States a trunk is “a
> high speed Arterial Divided highway that is partially grade separated.” [1]
>
> What is the problem with having the main road between regions/cities/towns
> being “primary”? Do you like the
I'm not expressing strong opposition because consistency with the
adjacent highways is important, and also because I don't live up there,
but the wiki makes sense, trunk is a divided highway. Both this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Road_classification#Trunk
and the US
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 4:53 PM wrote:
> On the West Coast, several important State highways are tagged as trunks
> even though they are not full expressways, because they are the main road
> for a large region. For example, see US 199, US 101, CA 99 and CA 299 on
> this map of far Northern
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 7:17 PM Eric H. Christensen wrote:
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> On Monday, December 16, 2019 7:35 PM, Tod Fitch
> wrote:
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> > My reading of the wiki indicates that for the United States a trunk is
> “a high
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:29 PM Michael Patrick
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> > secondary in most cases for the state
>> highways and primary for the US ones.
>>
>
> At least for the U.S., the Interstate vs. State Route distinction has
> more to do with funding than carrying capacity and physical attributes. We
>
> > secondary in most cases for the state
> highways and primary for the US ones.
>
At least for the U.S., the Interstate vs. State Route distinction has more
to do with funding than carrying capacity and physical attributes. We have
several State Routes that are definitely expressways:
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On Monday, December 16, 2019 8:21 PM, Anthony Costanzo
wrote:
> Given how these and other major
> single-carriageway roads in northern and western Canada are tagged as
> Trunk, tagging AK 2 as such would seem to
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 7:45 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:35 PM Anthony Costanzo wrote:
>>
>> All of AK 2 between Fairbanks and the Canadian border is paved. I can
>> vouch for this personally.
>
> OK, so that's kinda putting more weight on the "primary" idea. Is most of
In the USA, I think the answer is "both are extant." In short, it's the "trunk
means this, absolutely and primary means that, absolutely" on the one hand and
"around here, even paved with gravel, that road rises to the level of trunk,
absolutely" on the other hand. And you have two hands.
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On Monday, December 16, 2019 7:35 PM, Tod Fitch wrote:
> My reading of the wiki indicates that for the United States a trunk is “a
> high speed Arterial Divided highway that is partially grade separated.” [1]
>
>
Those roads in northern CA were tagged as trunk long after NE2 was banned
from editing OSM. Also US 101 in Washington was tagged as trunk two years
ago, and it doesn't bother me enough for me to change it back to primary.
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
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>
> On Mon, Dec 16,
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:47 PM Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
> Alaska is not attached to the rest of the USA, so consistency with the
> Yukon Territory and British Columbia is equally important.
>
> In the western USA, highway=trunk is not limited to expressways like it is
> in Germany and France
>
>
Well I think Alaska is kind of an exception to the rest of the US given
that there are no intercity freeways due to lack of demand. It's more
equivalent to western Canada in that regard.
Personally I think US highways should be tagged as trunk roads in most
cases but that's an entirely different
My reading of the wiki indicates that for the United States a trunk is “a high
speed Arterial Divided highway that is partially grade separated.” [1]
What is the problem with having the main road between regions/cities/towns
being “primary”? Do you like the rendering of trunk better?
For
Alaska is not attached to the rest of the USA, so consistency with the
Yukon Territory and British Columbia is equally important.
In the western USA, highway=trunk is not limited to expressways like it is
in Germany and France
On the West Coast, several important State highways are tagged as
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:35 PM Anthony Costanzo
wrote:
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> All of AK 2 between Fairbanks and the Canadian border is paved. I can
> vouch
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:26 PM Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
> Trunks are rarely expressways in remote parts of the world. In Britain,
> where this tag started, many highway=trunk roads are not expressways or
> motorroads.
>
Are we not trying to remain internally consistent with the rest of the US?
Trunks are rarely expressways in remote parts of the world. In Britain,
where this tag started, many highway=trunk roads are not expressways or
motorroads.
Joseph
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:22 AM Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:18 PM Joseph Eisenberg <
>
Totally agree. Since Alaska doesn't have any freeways outside of Anchorage,
these roads are the most important roads in the state and should be tagged
as trunk.
-Evin (compdude)
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 4:20 PM Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
> I would use highway=trunk the whole way for consistency. In
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:18 PM Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
> I would use highway=trunk the whole way for consistency. In Canada the
> connecting highway is also highway=trunk. This makes sense because AK 2 is
> linking Fairbanks, the largest city in this part of Alaska, with All the
> cities in
I would use highway=trunk the whole way for consistency. In Canada the
connecting highway is also highway=trunk. This makes sense because AK 2 is
linking Fairbanks, the largest city in this part of Alaska, with All the
cities in Canada and the lower 48 States.
-Joseph
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:35 PM Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us <
talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> I've noticed that there is some mixed tagging of the Alaska Highway AK-2
> from the Canadian border through Delta Junction to where it becomes a
> divided highway just south and east of Fairbanks
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I've noticed that there is some mixed tagging of the Alaska Highway AK-2 from
the Canadian border through Delta Junction to where it becomes a divided
highway just south and east of Fairbanks at Eielson Air Force Base. Some of
the non-divided
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