Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/22/14 3:27 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Jack Burke
access=use_at_your_own_risk access=two_paths_diverged_in_a_yellow_wood access=choose_wisely access=plugh access=xyzzy ? -jack On December 22, 2014 10:06:15 AM EST, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 12/22/14 3:27 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I've frequently wanted to map the

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Harald Kliems
Access tags seem inappropriate to me in this case. I would only tag the last node as noexit=yes (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noexit) as a way of making clear that the trail does indeed end and hasn't just not been mapped. Leave the rest to the users of the map -- maybe there is actually

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread stevea
Bryce writes: I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible

[Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
I have what may be a seriously weird question. I've been trying to clean up my GPS tracks and enter data for the Northville-Placid Trail in the Adirondacks. In the rare places that the trail does appear in TIGER, the data are wildly wrong, so I'm rerouting and retagging as I go. I'm also

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-20 Thread Bryan Housel
On Dec 20, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Kevin Kenny kken...@nycap.rr.com wrote: In at least one place (44.07447,-74.28335, says GPS) the trail crosses an unnamed tributary of Pine Brook on a beaver dam that is visible in aerial images. https://flic.kr/p/pFf3TV Hikers who don't quite believe that

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 12/20/2014 11:36 AM, Harald Kliems wrote: highway=service;service=beaver;pedestrian=permissive (assuming that it's nice beavers) I didn't meet the beavers. They were busy. You know beavers. One dam project after another. :) More seriously: Does it really matter that the way leads over a