Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-26 Thread Kevin Kenny
Just a random observation: containment in a state does not necessarily mean that a 'state highway' is a state highway of that state. There are a few spots in the Alleganies where NY-17 veers into Pennsylvania to avoid a mountain or river. It's still maintained by NYSDOT and signed with a New

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-26 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Kevin Kenny kken...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Just a random observation: containment in a state does not necessarily mean that a 'state highway' is a state highway of that state. There are a few spots in the Alleganies where NY-17 veers into Pennsylvania to avoid a

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-18 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2012-09-12 7:14 PM, Clay Smalley wrote: It was mainly NE2 that went around changing everything to SR and SH. I'm pretty sure the consensus has always been the postal abbreviation. In Ohio, SR 123 is used on blade signage and other places where the state route shield isn't appropriate. I've

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread David ``Smith''
Concerning ref tags on ways, I don't think there's a need to impose nationwide consistency. I also don't think it's worth even adhering to a strict machine-parseable syntax (particularly dealing with overlaps) since that kind of information is much better organized in relations. That said, here

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread Mike N
On 9/12/2012 11:19 PM, Richard Welty wrote: what i recall is that NE2 likes the appearance of bare route numbers and most of his ref tags have no prefix at all (see FL, PA, NJ among other states where he did a lot of this.) I've seen a number of people who put the bare number in the ref tag

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread Charlotte Wolter
David, I agree with much of what you said. However, I'm not sure why the size of a state should make a difference in what abbreviation is used. Large or small, shouldn't the state abbreviation be consistent? Also, in the B section, where you suggest US 1 plus US 9

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: Concerning ref tags on ways, I don't think there's a need to impose nationwide consistency. I also don't think it's worth even adhering to a strict machine-parseable syntax (particularly dealing with overlaps) since

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread Mike N
On 9/13/2012 1:15 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Most of the ones in Kansas are actually KS XX - might have something to do with me having done most of them and I consider national consistency to be of value I would agree with national consistency. There will always be contention - in SC, the DOT

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread David ``Smith''
On Sep 13, 2012 11:51 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: David, I agree with much of what you said. However, I'm not sure why the size of a state should make a difference in what abbreviation is used. Large or small, shouldn't the state abbreviation be

[Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Hello all, Was there ever consensus on whether to use SR (or some variation on that) for state highways versus an abbreviation of the state name (CA or NY). I remember that there was discussion, but I don't remember if there was consensus. Thanks. Charlotte Charlotte

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.comwrote: **Was there ever consensus on whether to use SR (or some variation on that) for state highways versus an abbreviation of the state name (CA or NY). I remember that there was discussion, but I don't remember

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Alexander Jones
Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hello all, Was there ever consensus on whether to use SR (or some variation on that) for state highways versus an abbreviation of the state name (CA or NY). I remember that there was discussion, but I don't remember if there was consensus. Thanks.

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Kristian M Zoerhoff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.comwrote: **Was there ever consensus on whether to use SR (or some variation on that) for state highways versus an abbreviation

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Clay Smalley
It was mainly NE2 that went around changing everything to SR and SH. I'm pretty sure the consensus has always been the postal abbreviation. On Sep 12, 2012 8:31 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff k...@lavabit.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread James Mast
Maybe we should allow NE2 back in here so he can also comment on this. Also, as far as I know, he had nothing to do with any SR tags in California, but I'm not 100% sure. --James ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/12/12 11:05 PM, James Mast wrote: Maybe we should allow NE2 back in here so he can also comment on this. Also, as far as I know, he had nothing to do with any SR tags in California, but I'm not 100% sure. what i recall is that NE2 likes the appearance of bare route numbers and most of

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: what i recall is that NE2 likes the appearance of bare route numbers and most of his ref tags have no prefix at all (see FL, PA, NJ among other states where he did a lot of this.) this was, of course, tagging for

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/12/12 11:24 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: what i recall is that NE2 likes the appearance of bare route numbers and most of his ref tags have no prefix at all (see FL, PA,