Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-05 Thread Alan Millar
Perhaps I'm not a typical mapper, but I don't find the existence of bulk imported local data to have been particular inhibiting in my activity level. I don't believe there is any one thing as a "typical mapper". But I certainly agree with you myself, and so do many others, as witnessed b

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-05 Thread Alan Millar
> Please take a read of > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/11/10/the-pottery- > club/ It started out as an interesting story, until I got to the "outsiders". Outsiders?!?! You have GOT to be kidding me. Next are we going to have a manhood contest about who has the longer,

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-05 Thread Scott Atwood
On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:02, "David ``Smith''" wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Scott Atwood > wrote: >> Offshore islets can probably be mapped via satellite imagery. > > It's common practice for providers of aerial/satellite imagery such as > Yahoo to mask out actual coverage of oceans and

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-05 Thread SteveC
Shaun it's simply not that clear cut, there are plenty of people in the US who would never have gotten involved without TIGER. I met one yesterday and it was the first thing he said. On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time try

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-05 Thread David ``Smith''
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Scott Atwood wrote: > Offshore islets can probably be mapped via satellite imagery. It's common practice for providers of aerial/satellite imagery such as Yahoo to mask out actual coverage of oceans and large lakes with a generic "ocean" texture that is meant to lo

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Dec 2009, at 00:47, Scott Atwood wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Shaun McDonald > wrote: > Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to import > loads of data? > > Please take a read of > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/11/10/the-pottery-c

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to import > loads of data? > Why do some people insist on wasting time surveying data that someone else has already surveyed? Probably much the same reasons. It can be fun :).

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Scott Atwood
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: > On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 00:12 +, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to > > import loads of data? > > Mapping is fun, but I personally think it is more fun when you're > enhancing someone e

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Mike N.
>Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to import loads >of data? I like to view OSM data as capable of creating some usable map types on its own, rather than just a possible supplemental feed to Google maps in the future. As such, landmarks are key to a standalone m

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Scott Atwood
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to import > loads of data? > > Please take a read of > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/11/10/the-pottery-club/ > > Please go out and map what's out on the ground

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 00:12 +, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Please take a read of > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/11/10/the-pottery-club/ Don't forget that OSM was turning away US mappers for a long time telling them to come back once TIGER was imported. It isn't that way any

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:22 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: > Anyway, Scott, I'd encourage you to find some specific goals that you'd > like to achieve with the import. It may not be worth importing things > just because they are available. Is there something specific missing > from or lacking in OSM t

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 00:12 +, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to > import loads of data? Mapping is fun, but I personally think it is more fun when you're enhancing someone else's work rather than starting from a blank slate. Whatever flo

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Shaun McDonald
Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to import loads of data? Please take a read of http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/11/10/the-pottery-club/ Please go out and map what's out on the ground, as usually imported data is of a rather low standard or the im

[Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Scott Atwood
The Hawaii state government has a sizable repository of GIS data that could be useful to import into OSM: http://hawaii.gov/dbedt/gis/. I have contacted a manager in the GIS department by telephone and verified that this GIS data is in the public domain, and therefore available for import into OS