Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-15 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 5:48 PM Mark Brown wrote: > I've noticed that the US Topo Maps are way out of date before - whole > rivers have shifted since the version that displays on JSOM was last > compiled. Still, like TIGER roads, it's better than nothing I guess. > No surprise. USGS was

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-15 Thread Mark Brown
I've checked the latest topo maps from the US Forestry Service website - the trail number annotations remain but the "Pack" annotation is gone, so will delete those annotations. I've noticed that the US Topo Maps are way out of date before - whole rivers have shifted since the version that

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-15 Thread stevea
On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Many of the old "pack trail" labeled features near my home-town are now > overgrown and barely usable. I would be skeptical about the utility of this > tag - mappers will need to survey the trail in person before suggesting that > it is

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-15 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Many of the old "pack trail" labeled features near my home-town are now overgrown and barely usable. I would be skeptical about the utility of this tag - mappers will need to survey the trail in person before suggesting that it is currently suitable for horse, mules or other pack animals. -Joseph

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-15 Thread stevea
brad wrote > I think I've seen old usgs topo maps, or perhaps FS maps with trails labeled > as pack trails. Not quite sure what it means, probably nothing anymore. > Perhaps the OSM person just used the info from the old map. A "pack trail" is suitable for pack animals, such as donkeys or

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-14 Thread brad
On 10/11/20 6:42 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:09 PM Mark Brown > wrote: Just mapping some of the trails in the Cabinet Mountains in the Idaho panhandle, from the US Topo Maps. Noticed that the trails have numbers. What should I

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-13 Thread tj-osmwiki
Further investigation shows that they're National Forest Trails, allocated by the forestry service, like the forest service roads. Some kind of network allocation like the forest roads might be appropriate - something like: network = US:NFRS:Kaniksu:FT perhaps? Other proposed tags

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-13 Thread tj-osmwiki
Thanks Kevin. Only problem now is identifying the authority. I suspect it's Idaho Panhandle National Forests but will have to investigate further. Roger the pack trail - will give it some consideration. On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 08:42:32PM -0400, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at

Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-11 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:09 PM Mark Brown wrote: > Just mapping some of the trails in the Cabinet Mountains in the Idaho > panhandle, from the US Topo Maps. Noticed that the trails have numbers. > What should I put in the "ref" for the route relation? It's perfectly acceptable to put a trail

[Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-11 Thread Mark Brown
Greetings folks, Just mapping some of the trails in the Cabinet Mountains in the Idaho panhandle, from the US Topo Maps. Noticed that the trails have numbers. What should I put in the "ref" for the route relation? Also, some of the trails are marked as Pack Trails but there is no documented