Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

The definition of city varies from state to state. In Virginia, for example, a city is at the same jurisdictional level as a county. It is not part of a county, even if completely surrounded by the county. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

Tod Fitch writes: You raise a lot of really excellent and difficult points and I am not commenting on most of them. > Finally, Los Angeles. The incorporated area for LA is huge and it > surrounds other incorporated cities. But there are areas in LA like > Woodland Hills,

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

This is how I have always used addr:city. It reflects the postal address since it is a property of the address and not the parcel itself. People once used the is_in tag to capture the other meaning, but it seems unnecessary to me since one can simply check for an enclosing admin boundary. On

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

On 11/10/15 11:09 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Tod Fitch > wrote: > > So what is a good definition for what should go in the addr:city > tag? If it is based on being within a formal administrative >

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > > Tod Fitch writes: > >> What is a “city” in US specific OSM terms? >> >> I prefer a postal city definition as that is the most useful for >> routing purposes which I feel is the primary use of

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

would change actual administrative boundaries). Steve -- who realizes that he's helping hijack a thread about America's Finest City -Original Message- From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:24 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > So what is a good definition for what should go in the addr:city tag? If > it is based on being within a formal administrative boundary then we may > not need the tag at all as it should be easy for a data consumer to

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > > maybe but i would do some more research before making an assumption. i'm aware of many postal city addresses that are in different counties than the "real" cities and i believe there are at least 4 cases where

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

Tod Fitch writes: > What is a “city” in US specific OSM terms? > > I prefer a postal city definition as that is the most useful for > routing purposes which I feel is the primary use of address data in > OSM. Or are we dealing with some other concept of addr:city? I see

[Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

Late last year September 2014 i sent an email about a 2009 San Diego address import that needed it's street names expanded by a bot. It was imported before the community had an acceptance of expanding street names. Any chance some one can run a bot to expand them. I have no experience on that. Not

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

I think you are referring to this change set: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/3411425 I noticed errors in it the other week when adding a restaurant in Pine Valley and noted on the mail list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2015-November/015634.html It appears to me

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > > maybe but i would do some more research before making an assumption. > i'm aware of many postal city addresses that are in different counties > than the > "real" cities and i believe there are at least 4 cases where

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

On 11/9/15 8:23 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > Perhaps true in general, but in this specific case the administrative > boundary for San Diego (1) is quite a long way from the post office in Pine > Valley (2)(3) and the Pine Valley post office is most likely to have a postal > name of “Pine Valley” as

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

Thanks tod i really appreciate your help. On Nov 9, 2015 8:43 PM, "Richard Welty" wrote: > On 11/9/15 8:23 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Perhaps true in general, but in this specific case the administrative > boundary for San Diego (1) is quite a long way from the post office

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

I noticed some of that, was hoping it wasn't everywhere. Is this any way to target an area with a bot inside each city administration line and change the city to the right one or does that need to be done manually? On Nov 9, 2015 2:51 PM, "Tod Fitch" wrote: > I think you

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

I don’t know. I suspect there could be an overpass query to pull all the objects with addr:city tags from within an administrative boundary. If so then it could be pretty easy to do with manual edits for those areas with boundaries. In the case of Pine Valley, it seems to be a place name with a

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

On 11/9/15 4:51 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > I think you are referring to this change > set: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/3411425 > > I noticed errors in it the other week when adding a restaurant in Pine > Valley and noted on the mail > list: >

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

Perhaps true in general, but in this specific case the administrative boundary for San Diego (1) is quite a long way from the post office in Pine Valley (2)(3) and the Pine Valley post office is most likely to have a postal name of “Pine Valley” as displayed on the front of the building (right