[Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
It's time to retire ref=* on highway=* ways to describe attributes of the overlying route instead of the physical attributes of the way itself. Using the ref= tag on ways to describe routes simply creates more problems than it solves for many reasons. * The ref=* tag on a way is describing

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Zeke Farwell
Yes! I agree 100%. Zeke On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: It's time to retire ref=* on highway=* ways to describe attributes of the overlying route instead of the physical attributes of the way itself. Using the ref= tag on ways to describe routes

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Chris Hunter
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Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
fully agree we should keep this target in mind. But first we have to resolve a long list of problems first. there shouldn't be any time when the renderer or other data consumers will be left with completely broken data because step2 was done before step1 osm doesn't have any way of enforcing

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/8/10 12:52 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: fully agree we should keep this target in mind. But first we have to resolve a long list of problems first. there shouldn't be any time when the renderer or other data consumers will be left with completely broken data because step2 was done

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 8 Mar 2010, at 10:10 , Richard Welty wrote: On 3/8/10 12:52 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: fully agree we should keep this target in mind. But first we have to resolve a long list of problems first. there shouldn't be any time when the renderer or other data consumers will be left with

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: On 8 Mar 2010, at 10:10 , Richard Welty wrote: On 3/8/10 12:52 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: fully agree we should keep this target in mind. But first we have to resolve a long list of problems first. there shouldn't be any time when the renderer or other data

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Chris Hunter wrote: Definitely a good idea! My only concern would be to make sure the way is correctly included in the route relationship(s) before deleting the ref=* tags. A valid concern, and one in which I believe human intervention is required. Maybe a bot could do this? I'd prefer

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: fully agree we should keep this target in mind. But first we have to resolve a long list of problems first. there shouldn't be any time when the renderer or other data consumers will be left with completely broken data because step2 was done before step1 osm