Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Daniel Koć]

W dniu 20.09.2017 o 03:09, Devon Fyson pisze:
However on the other hand GitHub is very popular and there would 
likely be poor buy-in if contributors were asked to use a different 
system. Therefore I propose that a new template be made on the wiki 
which is specifically for referring tools in any repository used on 
the OSM database. Those repositories would then be automatically and 
periodically cloned (backed up) to say git.openstreetmaps.org 
.


I would prefer the other way around - to set for example a GitLab 
instance on git.openstreetmaps.org  
(probably with standard OSM login) and mirror it wherever, including 
GitHub. No matter how popular, things can always change, creating a mess 
(like MapQuest Open).


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Muzalyev]

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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Devon Fyson]

I like the idea of putting it in a software specific version control system
but we need to preserve all the tools used to help curate the database
along with the database. I don't like the idea of relying on 3rd party
hosts with user accounts. We then we have to trust that both the users and
hosts will keep it available in perpetuity. If hosted on a service like
GitHub, unless someone else backs up that repository, that code could
disappear out of error, malicious intent, change of mind on open source,
etc. I also think keeping code available after becoming obsolete is
important in the event that some contribution it made needs to be examined.

However on the other hand GitHub is very popular and there would likely be
poor buy-in if contributors were asked to use a different system. Therefore
I propose that a new template be made on the wiki which is specifically for
referring tools in any repository used on the OSM database. Those
repositories would then be automatically and periodically cloned (backed
up) to say git.openstreetmaps.org.


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Kathleen Lu  wrote:

> If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like
> overkill, but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts.
> It's free and there is a setting to generate a license file.
>
> The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You
> could explicitly state another license next to the code (copy and paste the
> license text onto the wiki page). MIT is compatible but I do not think GPL
> is. I think Apache is probably compatible but seems like overkill for
> scripts (it includes a patent license).
>
> (disclaimer: not legal advice, just my 2 cents)
>
> Best,
> Kathleen
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM SwiftFast  wrote:
>
>> I have a bot[1]. I'd like to publish its scripts. A versioning  system
>> like GIT would be overkill, because the scripts are short and rarely
>> changing.
>>
>> I'm not a lawyer, and I have some questions:
>>
>> 1. Suppose I don't state any license, would that implicitly the same
>> license of the wiki itself?[2]
>>
>> 2. Can I explicitly state a license such as MIT/Apache/GPL? Would any
>> of those licenses conflict with the license of the Wiki itself?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SwiftFast#SwiftFast_bot
>> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_content_license
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Ilya Zverev]

https://gist.github.com would be the better option — it was specifically made 
for short rarely changing scripts. I keep a couple scripts there. Don't forget 
to put the license information in the comments in the script header.

Ilya

> 19 сент. 2017 г., в 20:09, Kathleen Lu  написал(а):
> 
> If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill, 
> but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free 
> and there is a setting to generate a license file. 
> 
> The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You 
> could explicitly state another license next to the code (copy and paste the 
> license text onto the wiki page). MIT is compatible but I do not think GPL 
> is. I think Apache is probably compatible but seems like overkill for scripts 
> (it includes a patent license).
> 
> (disclaimer: not legal advice, just my 2 cents)
> 
> Best,
> Kathleen
>  
> 
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM SwiftFast  wrote:
> I have a bot[1]. I'd like to publish its scripts. A versioning  system
> like GIT would be overkill, because the scripts are short and rarely
> changing.
> 
> I'm not a lawyer, and I have some questions:
> 
> 1. Suppose I don't state any license, would that implicitly the same
> license of the wiki itself?[2]
> 
> 2. Can I explicitly state a license such as MIT/Apache/GPL? Would any
> of those licenses conflict with the license of the Wiki itself?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SwiftFast#SwiftFast_bot
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_content_license
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Kathleen Lu]

If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill,
but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free
and there is a setting to generate a license file.

The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You
could explicitly state another license next to the code (copy and paste the
license text onto the wiki page). MIT is compatible but I do not think GPL
is. I think Apache is probably compatible but seems like overkill for
scripts (it includes a patent license).

(disclaimer: not legal advice, just my 2 cents)

Best,
Kathleen


On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM SwiftFast  wrote:

> I have a bot[1]. I'd like to publish its scripts. A versioning  system
> like GIT would be overkill, because the scripts are short and rarely
> changing.
>
> I'm not a lawyer, and I have some questions:
>
> 1. Suppose I don't state any license, would that implicitly the same
> license of the wiki itself?[2]
>
> 2. Can I explicitly state a license such as MIT/Apache/GPL? Would any
> of those licenses conflict with the license of the Wiki itself?
>
> Thanks!
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SwiftFast#SwiftFast_bot
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_content_license
>
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