> We need to give followers the ability to say no to leads who don't feel
> good.
The ability to say no to guys is something girls start out with. So
perhaps you should consider what it is about your method that has taken it
away from them, rather than looking to invent a method to restore it.
You have them listed thing in order of 'importance'. It's all good...
The 'end result' of all the learning...
But I did notice the order is just the reverse of a good order to
actually teach and learn to Tango. It's probably some natural law of
inverse 'something or other' that accounts for
On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:06:11 +, you wrote:
>
>People dance from their environment. Besides our obvious cultural disadvantage
>we simply don't set up the situational environment or the collective conscious
>mental state that produces this kind of dancing.
>
>We need smaller more crowded floors
Floyd wrote:
"Although I'd leave out milonga. :-)It's only danced to burn off
excess energy. I personally rest during milongas.., so I don't have
to rest during the Tangos that follow. :-)"
Thank goodness Floyd never ceases to share his wisdom and insight. Where
would we all be without i
Huck Kennedy wrote:
> I truly admire Jake for the way he's plunged these last few years via
> research into the deepest depths of tango,
Thank you, Huck. But let me mention that my "research" (hardly) is
/supplemental/ to dancing.
> but I'd be willing to bet that if you asked 99 out of 100 tango
Hi Keith,
I like your comment on the Milonga...I feel likewise about the
song/dance..I'd go further
and even say that anyone who cannot dance the Milonga (song), really cannot
dance..
I see the slow tango as possibly the sequencing of a bunch of postured
poses..
while it's impossibl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At some point, most tango dancers choose not to improve because the effort
> required isn't paid back with a sufficient improvement in the quality of the
> dance experience.
Excuses, excuses. Selfish excuses.
* Keep your feet on the floor
* Collect
* Know th
It WAS given to us by the gods to bless our souls with joy and happiness.
But, it seems to me, the essence of milonga is not immediately devined by
the new lover of tango. Milonga is like tango itself; also like what an
interesting woman may do to an ardent gentleman admirer: kind of retreat
behin
On Sat, 3 May 2008 14:42:44 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:
>Floyd wrote:
>
>"Although I'd leave out milonga. :-)It's only danced to burn off
>excess energy. I personally rest during milongas.., so I don't have
>to rest during the Tangos that follow. :-)"
>
>Thank goodness Floyd never ceases to sh
It might have been useful if I had put the reminder in my post about
milonga that it in fact pre-dated what we know as tango. It is not a
"different" dance than tango - it is a parent of tango.
Teachers with great "wisdom" would be wise to know this before applying
for their certification, Mr. Flo
I find this music interestingany info. on where I might find more of the
same??
The dance seems to fit it also...I was wondering, do you thing a close embrace
demo could work with this or is it strictly Chi Chi?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYI37RvN2oc
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Keith Elshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But, few there seem to be in the lands outside of Argentina who have a
feel for milonga.
The reason for this could be that, being in 2/4, it has the feeling of
being "fast." Dancers who start to enjoy it and s
> I find this music interesting
It's "Milonga para una armonica" played by Hugo Díaz.
> any info. on where I might find more of the same??
That track is on the album "Hugo Díaz en Buenos Aires" which is AFAICT now
out of print, but similar stuff is available on "Tangos"
http://www.tango.in
Absolute Brilliance!!
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When looking at Tango, one must take into consideration
not only the culture
Keith Elshaw wrote:
> It might have been useful if I had put the reminder in my post about milonga
> that it in fact pre-dated what we know as tango. It is not a "different"
> dance than tango - it is a parent of tango.
>
Not the so-called "urban milonga" Canaro introduced in 1932 with
"Milon
I am down here in Sydney for a week ...
... any recommendations for tango here?
I am based in a downtown hotel, therefore 'close to Sydney'-locations and for
the further away places transport recommendations/instructions very much
appreciated.
Thx,
Christian
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The second Tuesday there starts here in L.A. a practica hosted by
CasaDePractica.com for ladies who lead. I intend to go as a follower.
When I first saw women leading (mostly) other women I was annoyed. It meant
that TWO women were taken out of the pool of women dancers. I was also annoyed
b
"Only one man in a thousand is a leader of men, the other 999 follow women."
Groucho Marx
At 07:07 PM 5/3/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>The second Tuesday there starts here in L.A. a practica hosted by
>CasaDePractica.com for ladies who lead. I intend to go as a follower.
>
>When I first saw
Hello,
One should weary of musical interpretation imposition. Music is to be
interpreted by each dancer (both roles) and that is what makes them
(hopefully) unique.
A great teacher will convey the ideas and the tools to explore the
music and how certain things are commonly named (they're just tha
Larry,
First, I had to laugh. Now I can be serious.
So where did the men get the naive idea that following is not having
"to think or be responsible or anything but just float along and
enjoy the music." ?!
I think that you should follow, but not a woman. Follow a man who is
good, and do wea
Umm... Milonga is a child of tango, not a parent. In the twenties,
there was a range of tango-tango/milonga-milonga. Milonga became
differentiated from tango in the 1930s as tangos slowed down, and
milongas sped up, and the candombera feeling was put into the milonga.
There was a different m
I used to call the milonga the lithmus test that shows whether somebody can
really dance tango or not.
> Floyd wrote:
>
> "Although I'd leave out milonga. :-)It's only danced to burn off
> excess energy. I personally rest during milongas.., so I don't have
> to rest during the Tangos tha
Now; when I count my blessings at the end of each day, I can add: 'I do not
live in LA'
Neil
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Jake asks: "Not the so-called "urban milonga" Canaro introduced in 1932 with
"Milonga sentimental." That's the milonga we dance to. Can anyone on this list
/who has danced to the earlier kind/ (there must be a few people who have) say
the two have much in common?"
What follows is my opinion o
Evolution of the Milonga Campera (Rural Milonga):
1 - Two gauchos compite singing with guitar accompaniment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2w-SxQ5bYc
Payadores "Raperos Rurales"
Ricardo Pino y Wilson Saliwonczyk Payada "Viajar".
2 - Competition or execution of music by two guitar pla
.. I am a "lady who leads"actually, most of the time nowI have
only danced, with any success, with 2 men as followers. I have tried
with others, but I have found that male followers have a tendency to
settle back on their heels and "grow roots" into the floor with every
step, and as su
I love milonga - and nothing frustrates me more than a lead who dances
it as a fast tango..
two of my most memorable dances have been milongas - one at a practica
in a fancy sandwich shop when my partner and I (I was leading) found a
great connection, and everyone else on the floor also con
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