Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Ruben Malan
Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols Independently of what was in the mind of the first milongueros, I believe with confidence that to consider the premise: "chasing the opposite sex is the main objective in the mind of contemporary milongas attendees either here or elsewhere" as v

Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread johnofbris...@tiscali.co.uk
Ruben Malan disapproves of the pursuit of the opposite sex at milongas because teenagers might be present. Why does he think these teenagers go there at all? For exactly the same reason I went to the Southend Kursaal every Saturday night 50 years ago when I was a teenager: to meet members of th

Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Roger Patrick
Hi, > Independently of what was in the mind of the first milongueros, I believe > with confidence that to consider the premise: "chasing the opposite sex is > the main objective in the mind of contemporary milongas attendees either > here or elsewhere" as valid is 100%questionable and even

[Tango-L] Tango-L/Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Ruben Malan
[Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols Regarding John's statement: "Ruben Malan disapproves of the pursuit of the opposite sex at milongas because teenagers might be present." John Ward Bristol, UK Not necessarily true John. Please, read my post again. It is acceptable if done w

Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Ruben Malan wrote: > > 5) With an increasing percentage we are also observing the > attendance of married couples ... I love it when my husband chases the opposite sex at milongas - especially when the only one he is chasing is me. And we both have gotten hit on. It's

[Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Ruben Malan
Trini wrote: "I love it when my husband chases the opposite sex at milongas - especially when the only one he is chasing is me. And we both have gotten hit on. It's an easy thing to say no. The guys who are really good at flirting do so in such a way that they "open the door" to the possibili

Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
I think, Ruben, that both you and Sergio may just be unaware of your own natural charms, given your backgrounds, and may take for granted something that most men must work on. Alas for the North American male who has to debate as to whether he should open the door for a woman. South American m

Re: [Tango-L] Socio-ethical behavior

2010-08-16 Thread Sandhill Crane
--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Charles Roques wrote: > btw the term milonguero and milonguera are almost never > used outside of Buenos Aires, or at least shouldn't > be.  They refer to the older longtime dancers who have > reached a certain status in the clubs there.  Never for > an American or foreigner.

[Tango-L] milonga revisited

2010-08-16 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Hi all, A few weeks ago, I fretted about whether folks were still teaching the man's orientation with his back toward the center of the circle. Most of the milonga workshops I have attended in recent years had the man facing the line of dance and the focus has been on traspie. A search of You

Re: [Tango-L] Socio-ethical behavior

2010-08-16 Thread Charles Roques
Although it appears to mean that, milonguero does not "just" mean someone who spends a lot of time at the milongas. I think that is a definition that many non-Argentines, especially N. Americans, assume from it's more or less literal translation. The Argentines I have known over the years I h

[Tango-L] Socio-ethical behavior - The reason I dance tango

2010-08-16 Thread Sergio Vandekier
It is obvious that we dance tango for many different reasons. Tango allows the masculine and feminine roles to be played. I had the privilege and the pleasure of dancing with Trini many times, so I know what she is talking about. I think that we described different milongas. I for one, desc

[Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Ruben Malan
Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols Dear Charles, you recently wrote: "Like other aspects of tango "interpreted" by outsiders, such as the protocol being discussed in this same thread, its true meaning is being lost." Would you be kind to further elaborate on this deep but

[Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Ruben Malan
Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols Dear A. T fellows, I want to share this link with the group. I feel compelled to mention this essay (many of you may already know about it) which I value as a significant contribution not only to bringing light to the issue under discussio

Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviors and protocols

2010-08-16 Thread Vince Bagusauskas
Trini wrote: >I love it when my husband chases the opposite sex at milongas - I met a woman once who said shrugged and accepts the fact her husband likes to flirt at milongas. He is a popular guy and she had to try hard as a dancer to snatch him. Vince In Melbourne ___

[Tango-L] milonga

2010-08-16 Thread timmytango
Trini wrote Hi all, A few weeks ago, I fretted about whether folks were still teaching the man's orientation with his back toward the center of the circle. Most of the milonga workshops I have attended in recent years had the man facing the line of dance and the focus has been on traspie. A

Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviours and protocol

2010-08-16 Thread Myk Dowling
On 16/08/10 05:13, Sergio Vandekier wrote: > If a lady comes with company of the opposite sex, or sits with such a > person, or even shows an interest in him; such as talking to him more that > the usual time...then the other men will not ask her to dance. Frequently > this extends to the foll