[Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-13 Thread Michael
This is part of an announcement for a tango festival: Note on Class Subjects - At the request of the maestros', no class topics will be announced ahead of time. Instead, all classes will be rated by level only. This is what normally happens in Buenos Aires and the purpose is to give the instruc

[Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Elshaw
While it is tempting to think one's own views are the only ones which matter or should be countenanced, this is rather a trap. After-all, our views surely change as we grow in understanding/perception/experience. How we think "today" might not be how we think "tomorrow" when time has gone by and

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-13 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
Personally I prefer it that way. If I respect a teacher for his/her knowledge, it does not even matter if they simply discuss the basic sequence since there is so much one can do. the problem is that many people want steps, steps, sequences, sequences, rather than good old fashioned technique.

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-13 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Michael wrote: > This is part of an announcement for a tango festival: > > Note on Class Subjects - > At the request of the maestros', no class topics will be announced ahead of > time. Instead, all classes will be rated by level only. This is what normally > ha

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-13 Thread Lois Donnay
This is great, because it is the truth. Unfortunately, students demand to know what the teachers are teaching, thinking that their own ability to tell what they need is better than the teachers. I find this false confidence in what a student thinks they need is one of the - no, it is the biggest -

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-13 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
I'm with Huck. If I want to work on my milonga, I want a workshop that says "milonga". Same for musicality workshops. I think titles gives people different things to think about before the workshops so that they can be better prepared for the workshop themselves. There are times when the ins

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-13 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Lois Donnay wrote: > This is great, because it is the truth. Unfortunately, students demand to > know what the teachers are teaching, thinking that their own ability to tell > what they need is better than the teachers.  I find this false confidence in > what a st

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Alexis Cousein
On 13/06/2011 20:49, Gordon Erlebacher wrote: > Personally I prefer it that way. So do I. A local teacher (Sergio Molini, an Argentine dancer dragged in Belgium by Jorge Donn) actually used the same approach to decide what to teach for an entire year in Antwerp. We were asked to dance for ten minu

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Alexis Cousein
On 13/06/2011 20:58, Huck Kennedy wrote: >Sorry, but if you are spending big bucks to fly to another > city, rent a hotel room, and pay festival fees, you are entitled to > know what the subject of each class is going to be. No. You're just entitled to not go to a class if you don't k

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Alexis Cousein
On 13/06/2011 22:02, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote: > I'm with Huck. If I want to work on my milonga, I want a workshop that says > "milonga". Oh, no doubt. But I don't think that's what was meant. Some students insist on knowing whether workshop A is working on 'variations on the left molinete

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Alexis Cousein
On 13/06/2011 22:07, Huck Kennedy wrote: > I agree 100% with everything Lois says above, for private > lessons. But not for a group lesson of strangers at a festival in > which every student is different, and has different needs. > You have a very good point if the audience is, in fact, not

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Alexis Cousein wrote: > On 13/06/2011 22:07, Huck Kennedy wrote: >>       I agree 100% with everything Lois says above, for private >> lessons.  But not for a group lesson of strangers at a festival in >> which every student is different, and has different needs. >

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Alexis Cousein
On 14/06/2011 20:01, Huck Kennedy wrote: > >But the precise premise of this discussion was already > stated from the very beginning, to wit, that we were talking about > scheduling group classes at a large tango festival, where the > participants come from different communities from all

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Andrew RYSER SZYMAÑSKI
--- On Mon, 13/6/11, Huck Kennedy wrote: >           Let's hope this sorry > new trend gets nipped in the bud, pronto. I remember, way back in 1995[?] we had a visiting teacher here in London [UK] - Maria Pantuso - who did just that. She asked us to warm up for a few tangos and watched us for

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Andrew RYSER SZYMAÑSKI wrote: > --- On Mon, 13/6/11, Huck Kennedy wrote: > >>           Let's hope this sorry >> new trend gets nipped in the bud, pronto. > > I remember, way back in 1995[?] we had a visiting teacher here in London [UK] > - Maria Pantuso - who d

Re: [Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-20 Thread Tine Herreman
The class title has a big influence on how people choose between competing classes. I organize a festival and did a survey of our participants asking on what basis they chose their classes [shown here in decreasing order based on results]. I chose my teachers/classes based on (check all that apply